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Wicked Blue

(8,858 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:18 AM Feb 2025

Hegseth tells NATO that a return to Ukraine's 2014 borders is 'unrealistic'

Source: NBC

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said Wednesday it was “unrealistic” to aim for a return to Ukraine’s borders as they were before 2014, when Russia annexed Crimea and supported separatists who took over swathes of the country’s east.

The remarks are the clearest indication yet that the United States will support a negotiation between Ukraine and Russia in which Ukraine cedes territory that's already been seized by the Kremlin.

“We want, like you, a sovereign and prosperous Ukraine,” Hegseth said in a speech during a trip to NATO’s headquarters in Brussels, Belgium. “But we must start by recognizing that returning to Ukraine’s pre-2014 borders is an unrealistic objective.”

This is a developing story. Please check back for more updates.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/hegseth-ukraine-borders-nato-russia-invasion-war-trump-rcna191824

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Harker

(17,771 posts)
1. What's "unrealistic" is having a besotted, ignorant, twisted fascist rapist having anything to do with important issues.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:23 AM
Feb 2025

purr-rat beauty

(1,245 posts)
6. But why is it unrealistic?
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:39 AM
Feb 2025

sounds like Didn't Earn It hegseth is more than willing to cede to putin. Probably willing to give up much more.

Harker

(17,771 posts)
10. Unlike Chamberlain, Trumpsky and Hegseth are collaborators, I think.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:08 AM
Feb 2025

Or maybe a collaborator and an amoral yes man.

Jit423

(1,568 posts)
15. THIS!!
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 12:10 PM
Feb 2025

We no longer have a stable country. One thing that the markets want more than anything is stability. That seems to be gone forever!

IronLionZion

(51,223 posts)
11. Russia First! America last
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:11 AM
Feb 2025

and we are all supposed to just pretend that Russia will stop there? More likely they are encouraged to do more of this.

neohippie

(1,267 posts)
17. The US cannot force Russia or Ukraine to accept a deal they don't agree with
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 12:24 PM
Feb 2025

Hegseth or Trump can only attempt to broker a deal.

They cannot force an agreement that either party will not accept

riversedge

(80,760 posts)
18. .Hegseth's remarks put meat on the bone of Trump's radical departure from former President Joe Biden's policy....
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 12:43 PM
Feb 2025




..........Hegseth’s remarks put meat on the bone of Trump’s radical departure from former President Joe Biden’s policy. Whereas Biden focused on all-out Ukrainian victory, Trump says he wants to end the war as quickly as possible.

The defense secretary is part of a high-level Trump team touring Europe this week, with allies eager to learn how this ambitious plan might come about. Many Ukrainians are hopeful of Trump’s ability to end the conflict; others fear his negotiations will force them to accept unfavorable terms and embolden Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Hegseth sought to allay these fears by saying that “a durable peace for Ukraine must include robust security guarantees to ensure that the war won’t begin again.”

However, these guarantees should not include giving Ukraine NATO membership, as it has long desired, but instead have non-American troops “deployed as peacekeepers” to the country, he said. These personnel should not be deployed as a NATO mission, or be covered by the alliance’s Article 5 guarantee, under which allies agree to step in if any member is attacked, he added.

“To be clear, as part of any security guarantee, there will not be U.S. troops deployed to Ukraine,” he said.

maxsolomon

(38,694 posts)
19. It's probably not realistic.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 12:44 PM
Feb 2025

That doesn't mean you say it out loud.

I guess this speech was the quid pro quo for Marc Fogel.

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