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LastLiberal in PalmSprings

(13,287 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 01:23 AM Feb 2025

Laughing Kremlin Insiders Say Trump Has Given Putin Greenlight to Expand the War

Source: Yahoo News/Daily Beast

U.S. President Donald J. Trump stunned the world by offering unprecedented concessions to Russia in its ongoing invasion of Ukraine on Wednesday—seemingly without getting anything in return. Before the formal peace talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin even started, Trump and members of his administration dismissed the idea that Ukraine could reclaim its territories that Russia currently occupies, slammed the door shut for Kyiv’s hope of NATO membership, and refused to acknowledge Ukraine as an equal member in the peace process.

While Ukrainians and their allies were left in disbelief, Russian state TV and radio stations were full of elated propagandists, who grinned ear to ear and periodically broke out into uproarious laughter.

During Wednesday’s broadcast of the state TV program 60 Minutes, host Olga Skabeeva described the events as “unthinkable” and “unimaginable.” She asked Mikhail Antonov, the network’s correspondent in Europe, “What does it all mean? Ukraine is left without NATO? Ukraine is left without money?” Antonov said that the era of American dominance had ended and surmised that Europe wouldn’t be able to compete with the volume of military assistance America used to provide. Throughout his commentary, Skabeeva smiled broadly and couldn’t hide her glee.

Co-host of 60 Minutes Evgeny Popov marveled at the fact that Trump is doing Moscow’s job by destroying Western alliances and “sawing” Europe into pieces—something that the Kremlin dreamt of doing all along.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/laughing-kremlin-insiders-trump-given-122927902.html



The Art of the Deal is actually The Art of the Steal. Any hope Ukraine, Europe and those of us in the U.S. who still cherish democracy has been dashed by the weakest man on earth.

I predict that in the end, through Felon47's skillful negotiation Russia will keep all Ukrainian land it has occupied -- including Crimea -- and Ukraine will pay reparations for Russia's cost of the war. All sanctions will end immediately and Russia reimbursed by the U.S. and Europe. Putin will demand Zelensky be handed over for trial -- hopefully T***p will have the balls not to agree to that.

As part of the peace agreement, T***p will insist all of Ukraine's lithium, titanium and rare earth elements be given to him.

He will also demand to be given a Nobel Peace Prize.
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Laughing Kremlin Insiders Say Trump Has Given Putin Greenlight to Expand the War (Original Post) LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2025 OP
Fucking blundering piece of shit and all his shit the pants Klarkashton Feb 2025 #1
Putin's puppet delivers the goods. StarryNite Feb 2025 #2
"refused to acknowledge Ukraine as an equal member in the peace process." Bayard Feb 2025 #3
T***p DOES care what happens to Ukraine. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2025 #4
That's a given Bayard Feb 2025 #5
Ukraine doesn't want Felon47 involved in the negotiations. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2025 #6
TSF gave green light to russia, china, north korea to go for it. bluestarone Feb 2025 #7
How can he give away something that is not his to give? milestogo Feb 2025 #8
Putin & his lap dog Trump - Make Russia Great Again red dog 1 Feb 2025 #9
"America's Gorbachev." Kid Berwyn Feb 2025 #10

Klarkashton

(5,205 posts)
1. Fucking blundering piece of shit and all his shit the pants
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 01:28 AM
Feb 2025

Lackeys. All they care about is low taxes. This is a fucking impossible mess.

Bayard

(29,349 posts)
3. "refused to acknowledge Ukraine as an equal member in the peace process."
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 12:59 PM
Feb 2025

That says it all.

trump told Putin--If you help Leon put me back in office, you can have Ukraine. I don't care what happens to them.

4. T***p DOES care what happens to Ukraine.
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 01:25 PM
Feb 2025

He knows he can extort control of Ukraine's rare earths for himself and his friends. For example, the country has a huge supply of lithium, which just happens to be the main ingredient of the batteries that power Teslas.

6. Ukraine doesn't want Felon47 involved in the negotiations.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 03:16 PM
Feb 2025

After this I can see why.

They have said they want the UK or other democratic countries to facilitate the process.

As it is, you've got two wolves trying to figure out how to split up the baby moose they just killed.

bluestarone

(21,998 posts)
7. TSF gave green light to russia, china, north korea to go for it.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 03:26 PM
Feb 2025

If i were a NATO country i would fear everything. I feel so sick that America has turned their eyes away from our European friends.Jesus Christ what a NIGHTMARE!!

Kid Berwyn

(24,042 posts)
10. "America's Gorbachev."
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:54 PM
Feb 2025

... Is what they call Donald J Trump in the Kremlin.



And here's why:



Putin Is Banking On a Trump Win for His New World Order

Donald Trump’s nickname in the Kremlin? The American Gorbachev. Officials believe his chaos will be the downfall of the US.


By Mikhail Zygar
Vanity Fair, June 25, 2024

Idon’t know which moment in American history Donald Trump imagines when he says, “Make America great again.” He has never given a clear answer in any speech or interview. But I know exactly which moment Vladimir Putin imagines in his own vision for Russian greatness. It is February 1945, when Stalin, Roosevelt, and Churchill divided the world in Crimea.

Three months remained before the surrender of Nazi Germany, but it was clear that the Allies were winning. To determine what the world would look like after the defeat of the Third Reich, the US president, British prime minister, and Soviet leader went to the city of Yalta, a resort area in Crimea. Stalin achieved everything he wanted: He convinced his then allies that he should have his own “sphere of influence,” which included all of Eastern Europe—Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, the former Czechoslovakia, and the former Yugoslavia. The leaders also devised the United Nations Security Council, on which they secured permanent member seats for their countries.

SNIP...

The fantasies of Kremlin strategists have developed like this: A new Yalta Conference with Putin and Trump might not necessarily take place in Crimea. For greater symbolism, somewhere in the Pacific Ocean, roughly equidistant from Russia and the US, would be more suitable. My sources in Moscow, who wish to remain anonymous for security reasons, suggest that such a summit could look good on Fiji. The Pacific archipelago is conveniently equidistant from Russia and the US.

Putin’s entourage understands that despite his ambitions, he is not like Stalin in 1945, and today’s Russia is no match for the Soviet Union. Therefore, the dreams of the current Kremlin inhabitants suggest that another participant in the new “Big Three” should be China, represented by Xi Jinping. They believe that the real Cold War is beginning between China and the US, so the upcoming “Yalta: Fiji” should formulate the rules of this confrontation. And Putin is ready to be content with the role of the third partner, a kind of modern-day Churchill. Of course, he wants to secure his place on the global board of directors that is the UN Security Council and expects to be allotted his sphere of influence: the countries of the former Soviet Union.

SNIP...

For them, Mikhail Gorbachev is not a democrat or a reformer. For former KGB officers, Gorbachev is a demagogue and a narcissist who desperately wanted to please the audience but had no plan of action; a president whose policies were so chaotic that the empire began to fall apart, with different parts declaring their independence. This is wishful thinking, but Putin’s inner circle would like to believe that Trump could become just such a president.

CONTINUES...

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America's main adversary, Russia, helped Trump win in 2016, 2020 and, just going from the million-plus bots on X, in 2024. Kile Gorbachev did to the USSR, Putin wired Thump to destroy the United States of America. And to think We the People handed the reigns of power to Putin's tool without even raising one question about the legitimacy of the election makes me sick.
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