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BumRushDaShow

(169,018 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 03:49 PM Feb 2025

Europe will not be part of Ukraine peace talks, US envoy says

Source: Reuters

February 15, 2025 1:41 PM EST Updated an hour ago


MUNICH, Feb 15 (Reuters) - Europe won't have a seat at the table for Ukraine peace talks, Donald Trump's lead Ukraine envoy said on Saturday, after Washington sent a questionnaire to European capitals to ask what they could contribute to security guarantees for Kyiv.

Trump shocked European allies this week by calling Russian President Vladimir Putin without consulting them or Kyiv beforehand and declaring an immediate start to Ukraine peace talks. Trump administration officials have also made clear in recent days that they expect European allies in NATO to take primary responsibility for the region as the U.S. now has other priorities, such as border security and countering China.

Asked if he could assure the audience that Ukrainians and Europeans would be at the table for talks, General Keith Kellogg told a global security conference in Munich: "The answer to that last question (regarding Europeans), just as you framed it, the answer is no."

Ukrainians, however, will "of course" be at the table, he said, adding it would be foolish to suggest otherwise. This triggered an immediate rebuke from European leaders. "There's no way in which we can have discussions or negotiations about Ukraine, Ukraine's future or European security structure, without Europeans," Finland's President Alexander Stubb told the same security conference in Munich.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/zelenskiy-calls-european-army-deter-russia-earn-us-respect-2025-02-15/

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Europe will not be part of Ukraine peace talks, US envoy says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 OP
So Europe is not included in the talks Diraven Feb 2025 #1
Doesn't it? Laurelin Feb 2025 #3
Europe should stop relying on us for security hueymahl Feb 2025 #5
President Zelensky knows history James48 Feb 2025 #2
Trump doesn't want to just break the U.S., he also wants to break Europe. WTF?? nt Exp Feb 2025 #4
Of course he does... regnaD kciN Feb 2025 #6
WTF is right. Evolve Dammit Feb 2025 #8
Our former allies liberalgunwilltravel Feb 2025 #7
NATO, EU, and Ukraine must consider the US a "Russian-occupied government" and act accordingly for the next four years. C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #9
So a russian drone tries to blow a hole in the Chernobyl dome and even the US says peace talks are off PortTack Feb 2025 #10

Diraven

(1,877 posts)
1. So Europe is not included in the talks
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 03:54 PM
Feb 2025

But the US has already told them that they're on the hook to provide security guarantees because we're not providing anything. Totally makes sense.

Laurelin

(879 posts)
3. Doesn't it?
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 03:57 PM
Feb 2025

We'll require you to increase your spending and do everything we say but we'll give you nothing. I'm hoping this will be a serious wake up call for what remains of the free world.

James48

(5,189 posts)
2. President Zelensky knows history
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 03:57 PM
Feb 2025

And said he would NOT comes to talks IN MUNICH.

That MUNICH holds much too much Nazi history- and the
“Peace in Our Time” disaster of Chamberlin meeting the Nazis in Munich.

Our Felon doesn’t have a clue what happened at Munich.

regnaD kciN

(27,615 posts)
6. Of course he does...
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 04:49 PM
Feb 2025

…after all, Putin’s aim has always been Dugin’s “One Russia — from Lisbon to Vladivostok.”

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,197 posts)
7. Our former allies
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 05:03 PM
Feb 2025

Are likely assembling hit squads to deal with these rogues. If they aren’t, they should be.

C0RI0LANUS

(3,017 posts)
9. NATO, EU, and Ukraine must consider the US a "Russian-occupied government" and act accordingly for the next four years.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 06:01 PM
Feb 2025

PortTack

(35,819 posts)
10. So a russian drone tries to blow a hole in the Chernobyl dome and even the US says peace talks are off
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 09:56 PM
Feb 2025

But this fool says what?? Good gawd.

The EU and Ukraine should ignore their phony peace talks!

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