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BumRushDaShow

(169,403 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 04:18 AM Feb 2025

Trump's lawsuit against Iowa pollster over 'fake' Harris lead 'is both stupid and very likely unconstitutional,'

Source: Law & Crime

Feb 21st, 2025, 3:52 pm


Veteran Iowa pollster J. Ann Selzer on Friday implored a federal judge to dismiss the lawsuit filed against her and The Des Moines Register newspaper by Donald Trump over a poll published ahead of the 2024 presidential election that predicted Vice President Kamala Harris had a slight lead in the race.

In a 30-page filing, Selzer’s attorneys excoriate Trump’s lawsuit, arguing that Trump’s theory of liability “would eviscerate the First Amendment” and is “both stupid and very likely unconstitutional.”

In a poll released three days before the election, Selzer had predicted that Harris had about a three-point lead over then-candidate Trump. Trump went on to win the state by about 13 points. The lawsuit, initially filed in December 2024 under an Iowa law against “consumer fraud,” accuses Selzer and the Register of being in cahoots with “cohorts in the Democrat Party” who “hoped that the Harris Poll would create a false narrative of inevitability for Harris in the final week of the 2024 Presidential Election.”

It seeks damages and a court order to prevent the newspaper from publishing any future “deceptive polls” that might “poison the electorate.”

Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/would-eviscerate-the-first-amendment-trumps-lawsuit-against-iowa-pollster-over-fake-harris-lead-is-both-stupid-and-very-likely-unconstitutional-attorney-argues/



Full headline: ‘Would eviscerate the First Amendment’: Trump’s lawsuit against Iowa pollster over ‘fake’ Harris lead ‘is both stupid and very likely unconstitutional,’ attorney argues

Link to MOTION (PDF viewer) - Trump v. Selzer - Motion and Brief in Support of Motion to Dismiss

Link to MOTION (PDF) - https://www.thefire.org/sites/default/files/2025/02/Trump%20v.%20Selzer%20-%20Motion%20and%20Brief%20in%20Support%20of%20Motion%20to%20Dismiss.pdf
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Trump's lawsuit against Iowa pollster over 'fake' Harris lead 'is both stupid and very likely unconstitutional,' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 OP
There's virtually NOTHING this administration has done that isn't at LEAST one of those two things. Karasu Feb 2025 #1
They should counter sue Old Crank Feb 2025 #2
Trump cheated to win (Musk & GRU) and he wants to hide any evidence of his cheating. Botany Feb 2025 #3
Like the 60 Minutes lawsuit? LaRaven Feb 2025 #4
But it will make sure it never Figarosmom Feb 2025 #5
Gawd damn 3auld6phart Feb 2025 #6

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
1. There's virtually NOTHING this administration has done that isn't at LEAST one of those two things.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 06:15 AM
Feb 2025

More often than not, it's both.

Old Crank

(7,027 posts)
2. They should counter sue
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 06:21 AM
Feb 2025

For all damages. Sue for constitutional rights being infringened.
And sue just because he is a pail of rotten garbage.

Botany

(77,274 posts)
3. Trump cheated to win (Musk & GRU) and he wants to hide any evidence of his cheating.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 06:21 AM
Feb 2025

The poll was right end of story. I hope she counter sues for harassment.

LaRaven

(238 posts)
4. Like the 60 Minutes lawsuit?
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 06:53 AM
Feb 2025

Or the many other lawsuits to intimidate free speech. This may covering up their own ‘influence’ — without which she might have been correct. Won by 13 pts?

Figarosmom

(11,861 posts)
5. But it will make sure it never
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 10:47 AM
Feb 2025

Happens again anywhere. He's trying to control the polls. This guy is fake running again. He will run again and there will be another fake election that he will fake win. So he doesn't want polls saying how unpopular he is.

Look how he denied the polls this week telling his media the opposite of what they said. Saying that his approval was at 70%. His useful idiots will believe that.

3auld6phart

(1,683 posts)
6. Gawd damn
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 09:44 PM
Feb 2025

Childish freakin’ fool. Surely to Christ somebody put this freakin’ infantile fool out of his misery.

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