Furious Trump Sics Musk on Boeing to Deliver New Air Force One Jets
Source: Daily Beast
Updated Feb. 23 2025 3:49AM EST | Published Feb. 22 2025 7:06PM EST
A furious President Donald Trump has deputized Elon Musk to badger Boeing into delivering two new Air Force One jetsa project that has been been derailed by PR nightmares and technical issues, according to a report. The president has urged Musk to take drastic measures, such as rolling back security clearance standards for those working on the presidential planes, The New York Times reported earlier this week.
According to several inside sources, Trump is reportedly livid about having to fly in the same presidential planes that have been in use for more than 30 years, dating back to George H.W. Bushs term. Trump has pushed for the new planes to have a patriotic red, white, and blue color schemerather than the current light blue and white colordespite thermal issues raised by the dark blue.
During his four years out of office, Trump kept a model version of the new presidential jet in his office at Mar-a-Lago, the Times reported. Theyve been building this thing forever, Trump said during his joint Fox News interview with Musk this week. I dont know whats going on. Boeing originally signed the contract for the project in 2018, during Trumps first term. The jets were supposed to be ready for use in 2024. It now looks as if they wont be finished until near the end of Trumps second stint in office.
The endeavor has been beset by a series of disasters. On the PR side, the company has dealt with lapsed security clearances for its workers and an instance where empty tequila bottles were found onboard one of the planes. In one technical setback, the team working on the project had to repair tiny cracks discovered in the structures for the two planes. The COVID pandemic also contributed to the delays by making it harder to find workers and causing supply-chain issues.
Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/furious-trump-sics-musk-on-boeing-to-deliver-new-air-force-one-jets/
LearnedHand
(5,500 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)Cut as many corners as on the 737's...............Maybe use the same defective auto pilot vertical stabilization system used on the 737-800? (that they didn't tell the pilots about)........
Actually it is PUTIN pushing on Trump to get it done. The new plane has Blue White and Red horizontal stripes.
Co-incidentally just like the Russian Flag......
RockCreek
(1,471 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,952 posts)Rebl2
(17,743 posts)Initech
(108,783 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,878 posts)What could possibly go wrong?
nilram
(3,549 posts)At least, I hope he will.
lonely bird
(2,941 posts)The window will blow off with him sitting there with no seatbelt?
Im sorry, did I say that out loud?
Rebl2
(17,743 posts)hear what you said.
😉😁
niyad
(132,441 posts)Response to Attilatheblond (Reply #2)
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Bayard
(29,693 posts)Yes, have them inspected by Musk's little minions to cut costs and raise efficiency.
Irish_Dem
(81,271 posts)After all, taxpayers will cover all the costs.
MadameButterfly
(4,039 posts)will pay for it. The new plane will have nice colors (Russian). Ok for the next 4 years but then we'll need another one that actually keeps POTUS safe.
VMA131Marine
(5,270 posts)I suspect they will lose even more than $1 billion
For comparison a Ford-class carrier costs $13 billion
A Standard Boeing 747-8I cost around $400 million. Of course they are no longer in production which is why Boeing had to start with aircraft that had already built for Transaero, who went bankrupt before they could be delivered. It probably would have been cheaper to have started with complete new builds for the new VC-25Bs as there would have been a lot of work in ripping out an reconfiguring existing systems to meet the contract requirements for security, durability, and survivability.
SeattleVet
(5,903 posts)The 747 line was still operational when the order was originated, but someone decided that it would be cheaper to retrofit the existing airframes. (It wasn't.)
All wiring throughout the airframe had to be removed and replaced with hardened materials to help mitigate EMP. There was also a whole shit-ton of rework required to meet the security and safety criteria. There were also several changes that the Orange Turd demanded during his first mis-administration ...like removing the mid-air refueling capability. Many of the things he demanded be removed required a lot of additional deconstruction and reconstruction. The dark paint scheme he mandated also screws with the thermal characteristics.
A lot of the extra costs were his own damn fault. And now they are actually talking about 'retrofitting' other existing airframes to serve as the presidential aircraft, which will incur additional untold costs just to meet the security and survivability criteria, n to to mention the communications and defensive attributes that are in the current aircraft. It's obvious that this idiot has no concept whatsoever about what is actually involved in this type of manufacture.
Wifes husband
(720 posts)Why was the mid air refueling capability eliminated?
VMA131Marine
(5,270 posts)WhiteTara
(31,260 posts)SeattleVet
(5,903 posts)So in his first time in office he had them spend another ton of money to modify the plane to delete it, against all sane advice.
RockCreek
(1,471 posts)However, it makes d plane useless gor any other president.
Talk about waste...
MadameButterfly
(4,039 posts)in aviation technology spending his time on this? Trump thinks he knows more about this than trained engineers with lifelong careers and generations of experience. Any other president would tell the experts to make the best decisions on safety and cost so he could focus on running the country.
This is what Trump cares about. The aesthetics and luxury of his jets. This is his life.
Historic NY
(40,037 posts)the air force was looking elsewhere for non 747s
SeattleVet
(5,903 posts)That was for the two 747-8's. The Chump 'negotiated' a scheme that he thought would cut costs by obtaining the two undelivered Transaero planes in 2017. Then Boeing had to essentially start from scratch and do massive work on those.
HarryM
(464 posts)If so, why the hell would the president of the US want a Russian plane, unless he was a Russian agent?
Ocelot II
(130,538 posts)Trump shouldn't have to be inconvenienced by bothersome roadblocks like checking to be sure all the parts are where they should be, tools weren't left inside the engines, and FAA inspections (since the FAA won't have enough inspectors anyhow). Speed tape works fine for a lot of things. Get 'em put together and out the door ASAP; just try not to fly them over populated areas.
test run with Vance, Trump and musk on board? What do you think.
You're tapping into one of my favorite fantasies.
MadameButterfly
(4,039 posts)willl have to use it. Oh, wait, the very existence of a next POTUS would be a good thing. Never mind.
royable
(1,426 posts)MadameButterfly
(4,039 posts)is in our favor
Buddyzbuddy
(2,625 posts)Do we know where Hegseth has been?
orangecrush
(30,261 posts)genxlib
(6,136 posts)Just because he doesn't care, doesn't mean that future presidents won't.
If we aren't careful, Russian microphones will be everywhere.
On a completely different subject, this is yet another huge conflict of interest for Musk. Boeing and SpaceEx are competitors for federal contracts. Anything he does to undermine Boeing is of enormous benefit to him.
orangecrush
(30,261 posts)Would fly in it.
WestMichRad
(3,255 posts)
theyre harmless!
Polybius
(21,901 posts)I actually find that quite surprising. I would have thought that Air Force One would have been much newer.
Deminpenn
(17,506 posts)undergo maintenance, repair, modifications or upgrades, they use all new parts for the job.
NotHardly
(2,705 posts)niyad
(132,441 posts)Putrid Hogsbreath or Beer Bong Kavanaugh
niyad
(132,441 posts)But thank you for the reminder. It strikes me as interesting that, for a person who supposedly does not drink, TRAITOR** has no problem surrounding himself with alcoholics.
LearnedHand
(5,500 posts)Just wondering how many need to be on that flight.
MadameButterfly
(4,039 posts)in the midterms, then just 2.
SarcasticSatyr
(1,362 posts)I would be ok with maybe them skipping every third bolt . . . .
in2herbs
(4,390 posts)in air White House.
Maybe F47 wants a new plane so that when he flees the country he can do so using a new plane with security technology that will appease Putin.
EarthFirst
(4,153 posts)
he picked them up in Saudi Arabia last week.
DOGE approved efficiency!
thesquanderer
(13,006 posts)tinymontgomery
(2,859 posts)Emrys
(9,100 posts)His strategy at SpaceX is that rapid unscheduled disassemblies are valuable learning moments and not to be shunned or mourned. Maybe he'll move fast and break things.
All these backup systems - are they really necessary?
Wings? That's so 20th-century.
slightlv
(7,790 posts)Let trump feel the effect of his rulings directly. Of all the planes currently falling out of the skies right now, I think this is one that could really do us some good. trump is too stupid and egotistical to realize that some things can't be speeded up if you want it done right, and being done right is a matter of life and death. So, give him a life-learning lesson!
Deminpenn
(17,506 posts)delivers it tomorrow.
FakeNoose
(41,634 posts)What's the big deal ... he's the "richest man in the world." Am I right?
bucolic_frolic
(55,142 posts)Would you fly in that thing?
jeffreyi
(2,571 posts)marble falls
(71,932 posts)... Lord do not let anyone get seriously hurt because of the South Afrikan poster boy for the Dunning Kruger Effect being an even worse aeronautical engineer than he is automotive engineer. Or running a tunneling company. Or running a social network.
IA8IT
(6,424 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,725 posts)I live in the city where the 747 is manufactured. Come to Everett and enjoy some hospitality from the locals.
BumRushDaShow
(169,761 posts)(and eventually went across into Canada to Vancouver)
Boeing and Microsoft all over the damn place and the whole area is nothing but A LOT of trees! Just billions of acres of conifers.
mtngirl47
(1,243 posts)Figarosmom
(11,993 posts)And just let it go down with him on it.
He asked for it.
Aussie105
(7,921 posts)Trump should buy a season Amtrak ticket.
Leave security at home.
Money saved, DOGE team will love the idea!

MadameButterfly
(4,039 posts)(and $2 ea. for his security detail)
NBachers
(19,438 posts)If only I had the Photoshop skills to reproduce what's in my head.
Augiedog
(2,702 posts)RockRaven
(19,375 posts)and delivery of c) current Boeing aircraft.
That is actually a GREAT idea. A+B+C = very stable genius thinking.
Bigly brained very good idea, sir, with tears in eyes.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,291 posts)What could go wrong?
"I am the new supervisor in charge of installing Top Secret communications equipment in the airplane, comrade. Could you show me where the classified documents are located? It's Mar-a-Lago? I'll have Ivan take care of it -- he works the front desk checking in 'guests.' "
Klarkashton
(5,293 posts)Shit if passing this along to that other asshole?
Initech
(108,783 posts)Holy shit, this 78 year old toddler is going to kill a whole lot of us!
Blue Owl
(59,107 posts)Works for me
PortTack
(35,820 posts)L
MissouriDem47
(421 posts)Go ahead, let him have the plane right now, just as it sits, since he's such a big baby about it.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)33taw
(3,343 posts)swong19104
(625 posts)Deliver that Airforce One 747 ASAP! Make sure to have the Max sotware installed, too.
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)I hope that they suffer.
Layzeebeaver
(2,286 posts)Yea, that's' the ticket.
Turbineguy
(40,076 posts)Maybe Vlad will give him a flying lesson.
tavernier
(14,443 posts)without wings. Come on Rumpy, think of the time that will save. You might get it by this afternoon.
Grins
(9,459 posts)There is no other supplier!
The only other option would be Airbus. And that ain't gonna' happen!
Given Trump, maybe Tupolev? Sukhoi? Ilyushin?
HarryM
(464 posts)Like he builds his exploding rockets and spontaneously combusting automobiles.
