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SouthBayDem

(33,358 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 08:07 PM Feb 2025

Theranos fraudster Elizabeth Holmes loses her appeal

Source: San Jose Mercury News

Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes has lost her appeal of her fraud conviction.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeal for the Ninth Circuit on Monday upheld lower court rulings finding Holmes guilty of felony fraud, sentencing her to more than 11 years in prison and ordering her to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in restitution.

Judge Jacqueline Nguyen’s written opinion reflecting the panel’s decision rejected arguments by Holmes’ lawyers — that the trial judge improperly allowed some testimony and improperly prohibited other testimony, and that a regulator’s report could have misled the jury — on a point-by-point basis.

“The vision sold by Holmes … was nothing more than a mirage,” Nguyen wrote.

Read more: https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/02/24/theranos-fraudster-elizabeth-holmes-loses-her-appeal/?share=otns4eeenrsa2thte2ae

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Theranos fraudster Elizabeth Holmes loses her appeal (Original Post) SouthBayDem Feb 2025 OP
And she should, however DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #1
My thoughts exactly nt drmeow Feb 2025 #2
No Madoff died in prison IbogaProject Feb 2025 #8
I forgot about him! DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #9
yup -- it's wild how rarely men face any charges cadoman Feb 2025 #11
No, if she was male, she would have gotten more time obamanut2012 Feb 2025 #14
She got what she deserved, regardless of her sex. maxsolomon Feb 2025 #16
If Scump pardons her he could put her in some government Hassler Feb 2025 #3
In charge of the FDA DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #4
If that was Ezra Holmes and not Elizabeth WhiteTara Feb 2025 #5
Ramesh Balwani got 12 years. maxsolomon Feb 2025 #18
He's not a white male, or doesn't have WhiteTara Feb 2025 #20
A bad mother, too kiri Feb 2025 #6
wouldn't be surprised if Elon became her next baby daddy nt SouthBayDem Feb 2025 #7
Got herself pregnant? murielm99 Feb 2025 #10
She's married to Billy Evans. She's out of prison until this ruling. maxsolomon Feb 2025 #19
I never got what people saw in her anyway. What? Not that kind of appeal? Never mind ... Nt SomewhereInTheMiddle Feb 2025 #12
If she had a penis, she would've been the next Elon Musk Yavin4 Feb 2025 #13
She's more like Sam Bankman-Fried Jose Garcia Feb 2025 #15
As repulsive as he is, Musk's products work. maxsolomon Feb 2025 #17

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
1. And she should, however
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 08:29 PM
Feb 2025

if she would have been a male, like countless other male CEO's, she would be walking away with her ill gotten millions.

Not at all unlike Martha, when all the White Males around her were guilty of far worse cases of insider trading......

The white males, in particular, continue to demonstrate that women aren't ready to play with the men......

IbogaProject

(6,074 posts)
8. No Madoff died in prison
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 12:55 AM
Feb 2025

They both made the mistake of defrauding the connected wealthy. She was a crook, her tech didn't work.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
9. I forgot about him!
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 01:02 AM
Feb 2025

And there was that Uber Rich snob female, who bragged that the rich didn't pay taxes....Leona Helmsley?????

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
11. yup -- it's wild how rarely men face any charges
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 02:02 AM
Feb 2025

There are occasional instances but white collar crime is prosecuted at a close to zero percent rate in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Stanford

obamanut2012

(29,512 posts)
14. No, if she was male, she would have gotten more time
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 08:49 AM
Feb 2025

Like her codependent. She was more culpable, but really did the batting eyelashes, poor little me defense. And it worked to a large extent.

maxsolomon

(39,127 posts)
16. She got what she deserved, regardless of her sex.
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 02:31 PM
Feb 2025

She won't do 11 years; she'll do 80% of that.

Sucks for the kids she had to make herself more sympathetic to the jury...

Hassler

(4,962 posts)
3. If Scump pardons her he could put her in some government
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 08:39 PM
Feb 2025

Job where she can steal more money for him.

WhiteTara

(31,279 posts)
5. If that was Ezra Holmes and not Elizabeth
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 10:00 PM
Feb 2025

the pardon would have been automatic. Always make an example of the woman. I am not in the least suggesting she should be let off the hook, but the reality is that women go to prison and men go home.

WhiteTara

(31,279 posts)
20. He's not a white male, or doesn't have
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 03:08 PM
Feb 2025

a white male sounding name and that makes him fair game too.

kiri

(967 posts)
6. A bad mother, too
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 10:16 PM
Feb 2025

Holmes twice got herself pregers to claim deviously to the Court her need to mother her babies. AFAIK the admitted father has not wanted custody---I guess they are in foster homes, growing up without a mother.

She is not only a bad tech leader and thief, but also a very bad mother.

maxsolomon

(39,127 posts)
19. She's married to Billy Evans. She's out of prison until this ruling.
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 02:41 PM
Feb 2025

Where do you get this "I guess they are in foster homes"?

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
13. If she had a penis, she would've been the next Elon Musk
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 07:00 AM
Feb 2025

There's little difference between the two.

Jose Garcia

(3,551 posts)
15. She's more like Sam Bankman-Fried
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 09:32 AM
Feb 2025

As much as we may hate his politics, his companies have been financially successful (so far).

maxsolomon

(39,127 posts)
17. As repulsive as he is, Musk's products work.
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 02:34 PM
Feb 2025

Tesla, Space X, Starlink. They are not complete frauds.

Theranos was always a lie. She knew it; she committed fraud. FAFO.

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