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BumRushDaShow

(172,351 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 02:44 PM Feb 2025

"Corruption in plain sight": Musk appears set to take over $2 billion FAA contract from Verizon

Source: Salon

Published February 27, 2025 10:16AM (EST)


The Federal Aviation Administration appears likely to drop Verizon and pick Starlink, a satellite company owned by Elon Musk, to take over a contract to modernize the country's air traffic communications system, the Associated Press reported. Starlink satellite terminals and other equipment have already been installed in FAA facilities as a prelude to its potential takeover of the $2 billion contract — won by Verizon in 2023 — government employees and contractors told the news service.

Musk himself has claimed that his competitor is not up to the task, claiming on X earlier this week that "the Verizon system is not working and so is putting air travelers at serious risk." He did not provide evidence to support the assertion. Starlink, a subsidiary of SpaceX, is aiming to use its satellite network to replace an aging ground-based communication system, the sources said, while also displacing Verizon's plan to update that system by using fiber optic cables.

The fact that Musk is simultaneously a close advisor to President Donald Trump, holds an ill-defined but sweeping role in the federal government and owns an array of companies that profit from government contracts has raised serious concerns over just how much he's potentially helping his companies get the inside track to lucrative deals with the administration he serves. “There’s very limited transparency,” Jessica Tillipman, a contracting law expert at George Washington University told the AP. “Without that transparency, we have no idea how much non-public information he has access to or what role he’s playing in what contracts are being awarded.”

There's also concerns that a sudden shift in contract, seemingly based on personal connections to Musk, might put people's lives at risk. Former FAA officials told the AP that they were alarmed at the prospect of Starlink becoming a critical part of the aviation system without a period of testing, review and debate. "This is corruption in plain sight," Sen. Tina Smith, D-Minn., posted on Bluesky. "Musk is getting sweetheart deals for his companies, DOGE is helping him do it, and the President is cheering him on. This isn’t about government efficiency, but making him richer."

Read more: https://www.salon.com/2025/02/27/faa-may-cancel-verizons-2-billion-government-contract-and-give-it-to-elon-musks-company-instead/?in_brief=true



As I was drafting this OP, I got a breaking alert from the Philly Inquirer for this story -

Musk’s SpaceX antennas installed at South Jersey FAA building where DOGE spurred federal worker firings

by Alfred Lubrano
Published Feb. 27, 2025, 12:44 p.m. ET


Following recommendations from Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), the Trump administration has fired 15 or more workers at the Federal Aviation Administration facility in Egg Harbor Township. At the same time, Musk, the world’s richest man who helped lead a Trump Cabinet meeting this week, has been trying to obtain a $2 billion contract now held by Verizon to run the FAA’s communications system for all of U.S. air traffic.

Workers at the William J. Hughes Technical Center, 10 miles west of Atlantic City, said they saw two Starlink antennas from Musk’s SpaceX company being erected on one of the center’s buildings last Saturday. On Monday, the FAA confirmed on Musk’s X social media platform that it’s testing a Starlink terminal at Hughes. Starlink is a worldwide satellite internet system.

Musk wrote on X Thursday that the FAA’s Verizon communications system to air traffic control “is breaking down very rapidly. The FAA assessment is single digit months to catastrophic failure, putting air traveler safety at serious risk. The Starlink terminals are being sent at NO COST to the taxpayer on an emergency basis to restore air traffic control connectivity. The situation is extremely dire.”

An FAA specialist who didn’t want to be named because they lack permission to speak said that flying is still safe. Verizon did not respond to a request for comment. Calls to Musk’s SpaceX offices were not returned. A spokesperson for the White House declined to comment.

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"Corruption in plain sight": Musk appears set to take over $2 billion FAA contract from Verizon (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 OP
No calvary in sight. NotHardly Feb 2025 #1
I would think BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 #4
AGREE! Their lawyers should bluestarone Feb 2025 #23
Stand UP to those bastards Verizon and watch them fold. Same with CBS... Bengus81 Feb 2025 #24
WTF??? LaRaven Feb 2025 #2
Verizon probably has better lawyers C_U_L8R Feb 2025 #3
Jinx!!! BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 #5
Once upon a time Codifer Feb 2025 #9
And the theft continues. This time it's a $2 billion contract Musk is trying to steal. patphil Feb 2025 #6
Musk is the fraud, waste, and abuse IronLionZion Feb 2025 #7
I'm thinking that Verizon would have a hell of a contract on this,with high paid lawyers Bengus81 Feb 2025 #8
surely they can sue for unfair practices or corrupt awarding of contracts LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #25
Immediately after the failed coup attempt markodochartaigh Feb 2025 #10
Donations from billionaires are all that matters anymore. rubbersole Feb 2025 #15
Jesus. Where are trains when you need them. Joinfortmill Feb 2025 #11
trains? LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #26
Yes, trains. You can travel all over Europe in s train Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #31
Question for the shitbag Aviation Pro Feb 2025 #12
Yeah, no kidding cos dem Feb 2025 #13
Hmm Maybe, just maybe solara Feb 2025 #14
In this case, it's stealing from another corporation BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 #16
Indeed. progressoid Feb 2025 #19
The "Gulf of Silence" from Verizon BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 #22
Two thoughts: Do you really want to trust FAA communications to eLoons lunatic whims? flashman13 Feb 2025 #17
Lacing the stage so we can never get rid of him. Hope22 Feb 2025 #18
Who will mind the shop when he heads to Mars? Hope22 Feb 2025 #20
Nicole Wallace is covering this now on Deadline White House Bumbles Feb 2025 #21
This move marks the end stage of the coup. We're completely screwed if we don't stop this. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #27
This Vulture Capitalist is targeting the Federal Government bucolic_frolic Mar 2025 #28
Verizon Big Trump Supporter Jazz Jon Mar 2025 #29
I doubt that they would roll over BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #30

BumRushDaShow

(172,351 posts)
4. I would think
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 03:03 PM
Feb 2025

that Verizon wouldn't suddenly capitulate. Seems ripe not only for a formal "protest" to any contract changes in this manner (if such are actually underway), let alone them now having fodder for a defamation suit.

Verizon, one of the 30 Dow Jones Industrial companies, is radio silent at the moment and I expect their lawyers are gearing up.

bluestarone

(22,466 posts)
23. AGREE! Their lawyers should
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 06:01 PM
Feb 2025

Get involved with this. They ARE the ones with standing, i would think.

C_U_L8R

(49,539 posts)
3. Verizon probably has better lawyers
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 02:56 PM
Feb 2025

who will know how to put this self-dealing bullshit in its place

Codifer

(1,213 posts)
9. Once upon a time
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 04:24 PM
Feb 2025

there was a baseball game played between heaven and hell.

Heaven had Babe Ruth, Walter Johnson, Pete Rose and all the other greats.

Hell had Ty Cobb and all the umpires.

patphil

(9,230 posts)
6. And the theft continues. This time it's a $2 billion contract Musk is trying to steal.
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 03:08 PM
Feb 2025

His hubris has no limits.

IronLionZion

(51,559 posts)
7. Musk is the fraud, waste, and abuse
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 03:41 PM
Feb 2025

America First meant sell out America first, screw America first, destroy America first.

Bengus81

(10,376 posts)
8. I'm thinking that Verizon would have a hell of a contract on this,with high paid lawyers
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 04:02 PM
Feb 2025

Doubt that they signed on to a contract that says...we can shit can you from a $2B contract only because we like this guy better.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
10. Immediately after the failed coup attempt
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 04:26 PM
Feb 2025

many companies said that they would stop donations to politicians who supported the coup. Of course when it became clear that one third of the electorate supported the coup and one third really didn't care either way as long as they get their hamberders and sportsball, those companies backtracked faster than Sir Robin in The Dark Forest of Ewing. If our corporate overlords had put democracy before next quarter's profits, they wouldn't be in this situation now.

Joinfortmill

(21,679 posts)
31. Yes, trains. You can travel all over Europe in s train
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 09:25 AM
Mar 2025

Here. Nada. We need to wake up about how great we think we are.

cos dem

(944 posts)
13. Yeah, no kidding
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 05:19 PM
Feb 2025

I'm sure he probably has a reasonable idea that there are many components to the ATC system, and the only thing Starlink could do would be to provide infrastructure. It can't do VHF comms, it can't do ADSB, it can't do GPS or WAAS. And the infrastructure comms is the least of the problems. Infrastructure (basically what we call "the internet" ) is pretty much fine with existing wires. In fact, relying on Starlink, now suddenly you're more open to jamming and interference. But, it's all about grabbing as much federal $$$ as possible.

Send this fucker to Mars, ASAP!

solara

(3,894 posts)
14. Hmm Maybe, just maybe
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 05:31 PM
Feb 2025

-the ignorant & corrupt musketeer is making a fortune now because trump, the ridiculous & stupid "power" grifter has to pay muskie back the millions he 'donated' towards the corrupt "worst -president -ever's" dubious election? The only way donnie can afford to pay the substantial debt to elon is to steal from 'We The People'

🙄

BumRushDaShow

(172,351 posts)
16. In this case, it's stealing from another corporation
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 05:35 PM
Feb 2025

So we'll see how a veteran corporation handles this vs a nouveau one.

flashman13

(2,566 posts)
17. Two thoughts: Do you really want to trust FAA communications to eLoons lunatic whims?
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 05:36 PM
Feb 2025

eLoon says, apparently with no evidence, that "the Verizon system is not working and so is putting air travelers at serious risk" and needs to be replaced. If in fact the Verizon system is performing up to specs as per its contract, does Verizon have the ability to sue eLoon for defamation, slander, and injury to reputation. I would guess they probably have a righteous suit.

One more thing: WTF A no bid contract for eLoon's company. Is that like Starlink is the only system that can do the job like tRump's $60 bible is the only bible that can properly proselytize kids in Oklahoma?

Hope22

(4,883 posts)
18. Lacing the stage so we can never get rid of him.
Thu Feb 27, 2025, 05:39 PM
Feb 2025

Tying our wagon to a drug addled psycho. Perfect. And Congress and the judges sit and watch!

Scrivener7

(60,080 posts)
27. This move marks the end stage of the coup. We're completely screwed if we don't stop this.
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 08:31 AM
Mar 2025

And no one is going to stop it.

They'll have the military and the communications in their pocket.

If they do, I'll be surprised if there is ever a real election again.

bucolic_frolic

(55,847 posts)
28. This Vulture Capitalist is targeting the Federal Government
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 08:39 AM
Mar 2025

This is a wholesale takeover. Does he have the power to void contracts like that? Does Trump? If we're tossing contract law enforcement the entire country will potentially melt down. This is heavy SH*t from heavy dudes.

Jazz Jon

(159 posts)
29. Verizon Big Trump Supporter
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 08:54 AM
Mar 2025

Verizon executives are right wing Trump supporters, no? Are they happy about losing this contract? Maybe the execs were individually paid off to shut up and go along with it?

BumRushDaShow

(172,351 posts)
30. I doubt that they would roll over
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 09:18 AM
Mar 2025

because first and foremost, they (as a "corporation" and not the individual CEOs who come and go) have to answer to... wait for it... "their shareholders"...

And suddenly having a big lucrative contract like that "unilaterally cancelled" by an also-ran / fly-by-nighter like Muskrat, won't go over very well.

Verizon and its pre-Bell breakup entities, has/have had contracts with the government for forever. GSA does those 10-year telecom contracts.

I know before I retired and the feds made me get a blackberry (ended up with 2 over a bunch of years as they upgraded), I barely had a choice of provider - Verizon or I *think* AT&T. My own personal cell was on Sprint at the time, but that was not an option. I ended up on Verizon. I still have Verizon for a landline though (yes those still exist ).

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