Democratic senators slam White House after blow up

[riversedge]

Source: abc news





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Democratic senators slam White House after blow up

A group of bipartisan senators met with Zelenskyy on Friday morning.

Sens. Lindsey Graham, Chris Coons, and Amy Klobuchar and other Democratic and Republican senators gathered for an hourlong "encouraging" meeting with Zelenskyy ahead of his visit to the White House, the three lawmakers posted on their social media accounts.

After Zelenskyy's fiery exchange with Trump and Vance in the Oval Office, Klobuchar and Coons defended the Ukrainian president on X -- particularly the moment where Vance accused Zelensky of being "disrespectful" toward his American hosts.

"Answer to Vance: Zelenskyy has thanked our country over and over again both privately and publicly. And our country thanks HIM and the Ukrainian patriots who have stood up to a dictator, buried their own & stopped Putin from marching right into the rest of Europe. Shame on you," Klobuchar wrote.

-ABC News' Isabella Murray

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[Joinfortmill]

1. Vance is a nasty piece of work.

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[generalbetrayus]

2. He's the main reason Orange Julius Caesar hasn't been assassinated since he took office.

[DENVERPOPS]

18. How about this scenario

The Repubs impeach Trump, Vance moves up to President. Then the Repubs put someone in the VP slot who they really want.
Then they impeach Vance.......

Sounds reasonable to me....................

[bluestarone]

35. Be a great start!

[Linda ladeewolf]

36. That would be Mike Johnson. I don't want that either!

[MurrayDelph]

38. Not if

they replace the VP before impeaching Vance.

[Polybius]

51. A neo-con is arguably worse

And Vance would pick someone just like him anyway.

[CaptainTruth]

23. Like the Bush/Cheney scenario. I alwas said Cheney was Bush's life assurance policy.

[BidenRocks]

48. We always knew why...

Dan Quayle

[OldBaldy1701E]

24. I feel that this is one valid reason for the choice.

However, their plans are that the Hillbilly Clayface will take over after the orange gibbon loses all cognitive abilities. Then, the real stuff happens.

Theocracy, Puritan-style...

[Alice B.]

3. I see a stunted little boy acting out under that lifelong chip on his shoulder, and in the worse possible way.

[Dulcinea]

4. Vance is such a worthless little wanker.

Felon 47 knows a fool when he sees one. When all this comes to an end, and it will eventually, he'll be the first one jettisoned. Under no circumstances can this putz ever become president.

[Alice B.]

5. I read his book a few years ago because I wanted to be able to come by my criticism honestly and it was as bad, if not

... worse than I imagined.

I couldn't believe it ever got past an editor as any kind of sociological argument. It might've somewhat flown if it were presented strictly as a memoir but this guy's reach is a fevered hallucination past his actual grasp.

I was even more horrified by the progressives in my community who were embracing it and the movie.

F*** this guy. I look forward to his obscure but ignominious future.

I was also throughly enjoying the posts on Bluesky about his attempt to vacay in Vermont.

[Dulcinea]

6. I read it too.

It was a lot of drivel written by a phony hillbilly who grew up middle class, but has a lot of mommy & daddy issues. I don't know how his wife can stand him. I feel sorry for his kids.

[Alice B.]

12. Did it also bother you that he was making hay from his family issues?

I'm not saying he's the first person to write about a dysfunctional upbringing but (and maybe this is just my intense dislike of him coloring my judgement) this felt a little more exploitative. I kept wondering how his mom really felt about it -- I mean, I know she was reportedly proud of him as a VP candidate but... you know.

Maybe I'm also projecting from my own family issues, some of which became public in my own small town. And when a parent lets you down, you do often have a sense of "you owe me."

I guess it's complicated. But I didn't come away from that book feeling like he was a good person. And that was WAY before this.

I would probably feel differently if it seemed like any kind of greater, societal good came from dragging his mama through the NYT bestseller list and launching a career off of her troubles.

Yeah, my feelings are complicated except for the part where I really can't stand him.

[mahina]

30. 100%

[The_REAL_Ecumenist]

46. I thought his mom was taking a dirt nap after overdosing on stolen opioids that she took from her hospice patients...

THAT he tried to blame on "ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION"? Correct me, if I'm wrong. I DO know that he's absolutely DESPISED in Appalachia.

[Raven123]

8. No kidding. JD made the interview rounds as well

I checked out the audio book from the library and was surprised by its shallowness. His personal experience was somehow deemed worthy by those interviewers as making him an expert on addiction and socioeconomics. I lost a lot of respect for those who praised Vance. No one did their own research. I also learned to avoid author interviews for the most part and take others with a grain of salt.

[Alice B.]

13. Shallow - YES!!! That's it!

[Mr.Bee]

14. Listen, his name is

JD Vance.
NOT AdVance.
Just Vance
no advance.

[Lonestarblue]

15. I tried to read his book but couldn't get past the first three or so chapters.

It is manipulation of a vulnerable people to make himself look like a hero for crawling out of the gutter of ignorance and getting into Yale Law School. He and the book are wretched examples of humanity.

[Alice B.]

16. I think you just articulated what I was struggling with. Thank you,

[SharonAnn]

42. He made it seem that he did it himself. But he did admit to some help and sponsorship along the way.

But, somehow, he downplayed that and took credit for everything. But without that help, he'd still be a hillbilly.

He got where he did with the help, support, and encouragement of some key people in his life.

[LisaM]

37. He lucked out on the title.

Beautiful title, horrible and worthless book.

[charliea]

45. Sadly, I'm not sure of that

I said that about TSF before his first season. During the run-up to the first Trump reign I remember helping a call center in Costa Rica with training and diagnostics. I remember the guy was worried about Trump defeating Hillary, and I told him America would never elect a pumpkin.
I guess I didn't understand the American people, or the ability of the .01% to manipulate them.

My current view is a lot of Americans will believe any story told by RW media ( which is most the media these days) about the great Deal Maker in Chief and ignore the repudiation of American norms, values, laws, and ethics by the orange bag of petty, hateful impulses, and his minions.

More worrisome to me is that people seem to think he's compos mentis. The way he talks, his "weave", sounds like what it is: The patois of a conman. He has a decidedly limited vocabulary, and trouble with word choice and completion.

"...Other symptoms of aphasia include: difficulty retrieving words, difficulty understanding spoken utterances, difficulty understanding complex grammar, speaking haltingly or with effort, and making grammatical errors.
"

He had 3 world leaders correct his errors (lies?) to his face this week and still couldn't learn (accept the truth). I can't remember if he had to report mental conditions during his post conviction intake but if he did I wonder if it's a public record subject to a FOIA in New York?

[LudwigPastorius]

19. Yep, Vance is the bully's little toady.

You know his kind from school days - a slimy little sucker fish who follows the bully around telling him how cool he is and talking shit he doesn’t have to back up himself.

[srobertss]

22. I do see one advantage in Vance over Trump

Vance doesn't hold the MAGAs and thus the elected Repubs, in the same thrall as Trump. Plus, he's such a chameleon who knows how he would handle this situation once out of Trump's shadow.

[Rebl2]

29. You are being

kind. Vance is an idiot and full of shit.

[srobertss]

32. Not being kind

I know he's an idiot, but he doesn't hold people in thrall like Trump does. Makes him more subject to checks and balances.

[Dulcinea]

33. Yep.

MAGA ends when the Fascist Felon kicks off or is forced out. Hillbilly Vanilli won't be able to keep the scam going. He has neither Trump's salesmanship nor his ability to sway a crowd.

[Mr. Evil]

34. Vance is nothing but a tool of the Heritage Foundation.

Most likely they paid TSF handsomely to instill him as his VP. You know, just in case the McVomit's, KFC consuming pig dropped dead of cholesterol consumption. He is just as dangerous if not more than TSF. He's definitely just as disgusting if not more so. IRL, he's just another phony craving power with no accountability.

[ancianita]

41. No. His election in OH and now the WH had been bought and paid for by Peter Thiel, Silicon Valley oligarch who

arranged for the felon to meet him. https://archive.ph/6vyBM

By February 2022, Thiel was one of the largest donors to Republican candidates in the 2022 election campaign with more than $20.4 million in contributions. He supported 16 senatorial and congressional candidates, several of whom were proponents of the falsehood that there was significant voter fraud in the 2020 election, one of whom was OH Sen. JD Vance, who had previously worked for Thiel.

Koch's Heritage oligarch network has been around longer than the Silicon oligarchs, but they both share typical oligarch values with Putin's oligarchs. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/kremlin-oligarchs-silicon-valley-its-only-money-jack-myers

[creon]

43. yes

Vance is certainly that.

[BootinUp]

50. He's a slimy tool with no redeeming value. nt

[rambler68]

7. Millions in US support Zelenskyy

President Zelenskyy and Ukraine need to know that millions of Americans support him and his country in the fight for Democracy. We do not condone requiring a leader of a sovereign nation to grovel before we come to their aid.

[paleotn]

9. We don't require ANYONE to grovel. That is unamerican.

Shit bag and couch boy are about as unamerican as anyone can get. Every day they give me more reason to want them done away with in the most violent manner possible.

[Mr.Bee]

10. All This Was, was Trump

trying to uphold his vision of ALTERNATIVE REALITY
This is not a reality TV show, Don.
You can't force people to believe your reality!

[Paladin]

11. Glad to see Democrats doing something productive with this.

We need a whole lot more of this sort of activism.

[riversedge]

17. Rep. Jamie Raskin @RepRaskin They just turned the Oval Office into the Evil Office.

Rep. Jamie Raskin
@RepRaskin
They just turned the Oval Office into the Evil Office.

Link to tweet

[riversedge]

20. Vance is a condescending master manipulator who lies with impunity.

Vance is a condescending master manipulator who lies with impunity.

I’m so GD embarrassed by these jerry springer clowns.

🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

Link to tweet

[BattleRow]

31. Evil orifice.

[JohnnyRingo]

21. I'm reminded of the Gulf Of Tonkin Incident.

Seeking a reason for war, the US fabricated some facts to stoke Americans into the interdiction of Vietnam.
Like the babies being dumped out of incubators by Hussein.
Like the USS Missouri that led to the Korean War.

All those reasons have some level of suspicion, but we were against Russia then.
Now Trumpers will double down on hating Zelenski.

[LymphocyteLover]

25. Good! But when WILL DEM POLS STOP USING THAT DAMN X SITE???

[Emrys]

26. Surprise! In a few hours Lindsey Graham had turned his coat, was toeing Trump's line

and called for Zelensky to resign.

This is the same Lindsey Graham who laid the groundwork for this latest dispute by hauling out his easel and crayons and getting Trump all excited about "Raw Earths" and dollar signs in the first place.

I'd call him a weasel, but weasels can be cute, brave and loyal, and Graham's none of those. Lily-livered backstabber.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

28. Lindsey Graham wiped Trump's ass with his tongue.

[Karasu]

27. Childish, pathetic display that should permanently disqualify this country from having a voice in global affairs as long

as these people are in power. All for the sake of their blatantly extortionist power grab.

[Paladin]

39. HUGE amount of outrage over today's White House spectacle.

How huge, you ask? Let me put it this way: even the NY fucking Times opinion section sounds like its old self, rather than a bunch of trump pimps. Check out right-winger Bret Stephens' "A Day of American Infamy" column for confirmation of this. Don't know how long it will last, but I'm feeling better about things than I have in a long time.

Blessings on Zelenskyy and the Ukraine. Please return for additional meetings in the future---we need it just as much as you do...

[Nelg]

40. Just saying

Vance might have been a little excited as he was sitting on the couch
With little Marko 🛋️

[creon]

44. Disgusting

It is a disgusting display.
Sane and resonsible countries have to move away from the USA

[lefthandedskyhook]

47. This post was not from 3 minutes ago

Just saying. Stupid algorithm

[Wednesdays]

49. Vance and TSF: "Well, who cares what you think?"

(And that's originally a quote from DUBYA, who's a saint compared to these miscreants!)

[Javaman]

52. if the dems have an ounce of guts

they will do everything within their power to fuck over everything the orange asshole and dogebag.

bring the government to complete halt.

[MadMike47]

53. Then show it

Boycott Trump's shitshow in front of Congress on Tuesday.