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Tennessee Hillbilly

(693 posts)
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 06:49 PM Mar 2025

Norway Fuel Giant Refuses to Fill U.S. Submarines

Source: The Express (U.K.)

A petrol giant in Norway has announced a ban on fuel sales to all US forces following Donald Trump's treatment of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the White House, it has been reported.

Norwegian firm Haltbakk Bunkers announced it will stop providing fuel to all American forces in Norway as it declared "No fuel to Americans!". The firm posted on social media to declare its support for Zelensky as it dealt a hammer blow to US President Trump following the heated spat televised from the Oval Office.

Read more: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2021304/norway-fuel-giant-refuses-fill

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Norway Fuel Giant Refuses to Fill U.S. Submarines (Original Post) Tennessee Hillbilly Mar 2025 OP
Just what kind of fuel were they putting in these US submarines anyway? NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2025 #1
If they aren't nuclear subs, they us diesel TexasBushwhacker Mar 2025 #2
U.S. nuclear subs have only one propeller Submariner Mar 2025 #5
My Nuke powered Aircraft Carrier had back-up diesel generators maxrandb Mar 2025 #12
Diesel was only for auxiliary electrical power on the old LA and Sturgeon class boats of my youth. paleotn Mar 2025 #17
How bout dem apples Traildogbob Mar 2025 #3
Well put and I like your NATO acronym. Prof. Toru Tanaka Mar 2025 #38
International pariahs... EarthFirst Mar 2025 #4
More of this is needed... Bayard Mar 2025 #6
Hurray for Gunnar! MLAA Mar 2025 #7
Good! SheltieLover Mar 2025 #8
Good. We're on Russia's side now. Mysterian Mar 2025 #9
They have DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #11
Keep it up! True Americans know who our real allies are. nt Blasphemer Mar 2025 #10
Nice job Drumpf/ Couch fucker... Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #13
The ships with nuclear power plants don't Deminpenn Mar 2025 #14
Feels like things are falling apart rapidly internationaly. Blues Heron Mar 2025 #15
No wonder Rubio looked like he was trying to shrivel away into that couch. Prof. Toru Tanaka Mar 2025 #39
The US is a threat Johnny2X2X Mar 2025 #16
Trump is the threat and Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2025 #27
Loving the solidarity that the Europeans nations are showing!!! n/t iluvtennis Mar 2025 #18
Going to be difficult keeping the some of the surface fleet and auxiliary ships gassed up. paleotn Mar 2025 #19
Sending a message to our Quisling president--good. Timeflyer Mar 2025 #20
Quisling! SomewhereInTheMiddle Mar 2025 #43
Call AAA BidenRocks Mar 2025 #21
Thank you Haltbakk Bunkers for supporting Zelensky. republianmushroom Mar 2025 #22
I endorse a Free World boycott against all US assets until *rump and the Pukes are cinders. NBachers Mar 2025 #23
First day of Government 101 class: Actions Have Consequences. (nt) Paladin Mar 2025 #24
Trump is putting US troops in harm's way. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #25
Yea Norway! Buddyzbuddy Mar 2025 #26
Ja, n skal vi nyte lutefisken vr... IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 2025 #31
Does the world love us yet, Donald? Beartracks Mar 2025 #28
Stupid headline writer as stupid headline writers do. TexLaProgressive Mar 2025 #29
That's a good point, but I think it's academic. Lasher Mar 2025 #33
Thank you, Lasher! This gives more perspective to the company that declared this....not the Norwegian govt. BComplex Mar 2025 #34
Buhuhuhuhuhaaaaah! n/t mntleo2 Mar 2025 #30
! Marcuse Mar 2025 #32
At least egg prices are down.... DemMedic Mar 2025 #35
Somebody has the balls to tell Trump to go to hell! what re we Americans going to do? Stargazer99 Mar 2025 #36
You idiot Republican are responsible for destroying freedom-has it dawned you mammon worshipers Stargazer99 Mar 2025 #37
So now the orange fascist will declare war on Norway or what will he do? lark Mar 2025 #40
Uh... US Submarines are Nuclear... CapnSteve Mar 2025 #41
I have to ask one question. Aussie105 Mar 2025 #42

TexasBushwhacker

(21,202 posts)
2. If they aren't nuclear subs, they us diesel
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 06:56 PM
Mar 2025

Even if they are nukes, they may have diesel backups. I had a boss who was in the Navy, stationed on a sub.

Submariner

(13,365 posts)
5. U.S. nuclear subs have only one propeller
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 07:16 PM
Mar 2025

so they are difficult to maneuver, especially at slow docking speeds.

I suspect U.S. Navy tugboats use the fuel as they assist the nuke boats in and out of port. And we may have one or more USCG cutters to patrol the surrounding waters, since the Russian sub base in Murmansk isn't far away.

There may be barracks with a mess hall using fuels.

maxrandb

(17,425 posts)
12. My Nuke powered Aircraft Carrier had back-up diesel generators
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 08:00 PM
Mar 2025

and conventional fuel powered pumps for fire fighting hoses.

paleotn

(22,211 posts)
17. Diesel was only for auxiliary electrical power on the old LA and Sturgeon class boats of my youth.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 09:01 PM
Mar 2025

In case the nukes have a problem which is pretty rare. Might still be the case. As Submariner mentioned above, we needed diesel tugs to berth and unberth. Other than that, the US submarine force has been all nuclear for decades thanks to Admiral Rickover. With a few minor exceptions. The last diesel boat, USS Dolphin, was decommissioned in 2007 I think. It was a research vessel. This will have an impact on the surface fleet though. Arleigh Burke destroyers, unlike the nuclear powered Carriers they protect, run on gas turbines and burn a lot of bunker fuel.

Traildogbob

(13,017 posts)
3. How bout dem apples
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 06:56 PM
Mar 2025

Lindsay. You coward treasonous shit stain.
John, forget about spinning in your grave, come back and slap the lying ass smirk off his chicken shit face.
NATO. Never Accept Trump Offers.
Sorry, treason and espionage in my face kinda pisses my veteran ass off.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,926 posts)
38. Well put and I like your NATO acronym.
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 08:30 AM
Mar 2025

As a fellow vet, I share your feelings about this shit show.

MLAA

(19,741 posts)
7. Hurray for Gunnar!
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 07:27 PM
Mar 2025

Gunnar Gran is the CEO and owner of a conglomerate of which Haltbakk Bunkers is a subsidiary. So no doubt he personally made the decision. He is also quoted saying “not a litre of fuel will be delivered until Trump is finished.”

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
11. They have
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 07:59 PM
Mar 2025

already started, months ago......They have realized that trump was implanted as a Russian Agent a decade or more ago.
Putin has been grooming him since the late 80's......A former Russian KGB agent has disclosed that.........

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
14. The ships with nuclear power plants don't
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 08:19 PM
Mar 2025

need nuclear fuel for decades and they can do refueling at sea for regular fuel, but that's not ideal. Reykajik Iceland would be, I think, the closest American base in the North Atlantic.

And what happens if all European countries deny US ships access to their territorial waters?

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,926 posts)
39. No wonder Rubio looked like he was trying to shrivel away into that couch.
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 08:35 AM
Mar 2025

I think he knows he is in a no-win position as Secretary of State with Musk, TSF and Weirdo Beardo calling the shots internationally.

paleotn

(22,211 posts)
19. Going to be difficult keeping the some of the surface fleet and auxiliary ships gassed up.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 09:14 PM
Mar 2025

Arleigh Burkes and Ticonderoga's burn a lot of bunker fuel, unlike the nuclear carrier they protect. Gee, thanks Donny, you fucking moron!

43. Quisling!
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 04:04 AM
Mar 2025

I saw what you did there.

Vidkun Quisling

I think few Americans recognize how important a military partner Norway is to the US. This could just be the beginning of the large-scale ostracization of the US.

TexLaProgressive

(12,730 posts)
29. Stupid headline writer as stupid headline writers do.
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 12:23 AM
Mar 2025

The Norwegians are not going to fuel the many ships that use fuel oil not nuclear powered submarines.

Lasher

(29,576 posts)
33. That's a good point, but I think it's academic.
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 01:54 AM
Mar 2025
Norway's head of MoD assures US Navy of support amid Haltbakk company's boycott

Norwegian Defense Minister Tore Sandvik stated that the country continues to provide the US military fleet with full support and supplies. The official's remarks came in response to the refusal of the Norwegian company Haltbakk Bunkers to refuel American warships, according to the Norwegian Ministry of Defense's Twitter (X) account.

In the Norwegian Ministry of Defense, during the night before March 2, a statement by Sandvik regarding reports about naval support was released.

"We have seen reports raising concerns about support for US Navy vessels in Norway," the head of the Ministry of Defense said.

He noted that this is not in line with the Norwegian government’s policy.

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/norway-s-head-of-mod-assures-us-navy-of-support-1740890939.html

BComplex

(9,912 posts)
34. Thank you, Lasher! This gives more perspective to the company that declared this....not the Norwegian govt.
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 04:33 AM
Mar 2025

But trump is itching to "command" the US military. And ALL of his buddies from silicon valley that want the USA to be a dick tater ship ( ) want that, as well. That makes trump an even greater threat to the world than he was yesterday.

Stargazer99

(3,517 posts)
37. You idiot Republican are responsible for destroying freedom-has it dawned you mammon worshipers
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 05:53 AM
Mar 2025

ever think about what we will do if China or Russia cause war?

lark

(26,080 posts)
40. So now the orange fascist will declare war on Norway or what will he do?
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 01:55 PM
Mar 2025

100% tariffs on some Norwegian product?
Suggest we buy Norway?
Suggest we are now at war with Norway?
Call PUtin and do whatever he says?

Whatever he does, if it's not ignoring this and he usually doesn't ignore any insult - it will be hamfisted and stupid beyond belief - as is every single thing he does!

CapnSteve

(404 posts)
41. Uh... US Submarines are Nuclear...
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 04:49 PM
Mar 2025

So, no bunkers (fuel). Norway is indeed refusing fuel to US navy ships and that IS significant. Yay Norway!

Aussie105

(7,914 posts)
42. I have to ask one question.
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 11:05 PM
Mar 2025

Did Donald think, that being so on the nose world wide, so disrespectful to other world leaders, so punitive in his approach to international trade, so willing to kiss Putin's feet, that other countries would just go . . . Oh well, no worries . . . and not react in some way?

If so, this response, and all upcoming anti-America responses will make his blood boil.

His close sycophants will be busy cleaning the ketchup off the walls.

Intercom: 'Temper tantrum control and diaper changed needed, Oval Office stat!'

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