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Native

(7,360 posts)
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:31 PM Mar 2025

Elon Musk Suddenly Doesn't Want Credit for Disastrous DOGE Cuts

Source: The New Republic

Elon Musk is claiming that the Department of Government Efficiency isn’t actually behind the sweeping cuts to the federal workforce, instead placing the blame on the agency heads who order the firings.

Republican Representative Derrick Van Orden told CNN that during a private meeting with GOP lawmakers Wednesday, Musk told the group that the recently announced elimination of more than 70,000 jobs at the Department of Veterans Affairs “wasn’t a DOGE decision.”

The billionaire bureaucrat has claimed this defense to his organization’s cost-cutting measures before, saying that DOGE simply makes recommendations for cuts to agency heads, and then it’s up to those heads to execute them. It’s unclear what fate would befall the agencies that failed to act in accordance with DOGE directives or the Trump administration’s mission to shrink the federal workforce.

However, Musk privately acknowledged that he’d made some massive missteps, and that he “can’t bat a thousand all the time,” four people familiar with his remarks told Politico. But when Musk misses a swing, people lose their livelihoods.

Read more: https://newrepublic.com/post/192415/elon-musk-warns-republicans-doge-job-cuts

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Elon Musk Suddenly Doesn't Want Credit for Disastrous DOGE Cuts (Original Post) Native Mar 2025 OP
"Wasn't meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" durablend Mar 2025 #1
"It's just a coincidence it was done the exact same way I gutted Twitter!" tanyev Mar 2025 #23
Blowback is working! The Blue Flower Mar 2025 #2
F-Elon is suddenly afraid of the hundreds of lawsuits coming his way... Justice matters. Mar 2025 #47
"can't bat a thousand all the time," Gore1FL Mar 2025 #3
LOL! "I'm in the FRONT row..." nt spooky3 Mar 2025 #5
well below the "mendoza line" rampartd Mar 2025 #12
Sounds like an 8 year old holding a bat and talking to Mommy about spooky3 Mar 2025 #4
That's been the official story all along. unblock Mar 2025 #6
you nailed it. the article says it's unclear what fate would befall agency heads who failed to comply, Native Mar 2025 #10
He has NO authority at all. valleyrogue Mar 2025 #17
Officially he has no authority unblock Mar 2025 #18
Absolutely! SheltieLover Mar 2025 #56
What's the matter Musk,look at Tesla stock price today? Down $18.20 right now Bengus81 Mar 2025 #7
Musk has sniffed the wind and knows the Come Around stage is blowing in his direction. Baitball Blogger Mar 2025 #8
Yup SheltieLover Mar 2025 #57
Psychopaths and narcissists always blame others. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #9
In a circular firing squad, nobody has to admit they're wrong FakeNoose Mar 2025 #31
I believe this is all about civil liability bronxiteforever Mar 2025 #11
Yep! BrianTheEVGuy Mar 2025 #24
I hope they take that lunatic for everything he's got. n/t valleyrogue Mar 2025 #39
Did Musk finally realize that he has no immunity? LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #43
But you know, he's in the top tier of the two-tier justice system... Justice matters. Mar 2025 #48
True but BrianTheEVGuy Mar 2025 #61
This and a taxpayer class action NJCher Mar 2025 #53
Raskin is a great official & brilliant! SheltieLover Mar 2025 #59
Yep. Trying to make sure his actions stand up in court. The GOP cowards will turn around and rubber stamp tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #29
Hmmm. n/t yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #35
Absolutely! SheltieLover Mar 2025 #58
Musk is as much a coward and weakling as Trump. madaboutharry Mar 2025 #13
Now I understand what a "clusterf*ck" really is. This administration. sinkingfeeling Mar 2025 #14
Have any of the "cuts" actually become reality? valleyrogue Mar 2025 #15
Yes.. many people fired, many contracts cut. James48 Mar 2025 #21
It's mostly probationary employees. valleyrogue Mar 2025 #38
He's getting scared. Realizing that he isn't a super hero. And not as loved as he'd imagined. C Moon Mar 2025 #16
Also realizing he doesn't know as much as he thought he knew. Martin68 Mar 2025 #20
Possibly also coming to fhe realization tesla stock keeps tanking SheltieLover Mar 2025 #60
Sounds like the Ketamine speaking. Where's the guy with the chainsaw? Like many businessmen, Musk is totally Martin68 Mar 2025 #19
Yeah? Fuck OFF Nazi boy. Cha Mar 2025 #22
The finger pointing begins mcar Mar 2025 #25
Then abolish fucking DOGE. Do away with this fiction. But we all know that's the last thing he'll do. Karasu Mar 2025 #26
The buck never got to me exboyfil Mar 2025 #27
Dude already has his pecker marks over EVERYTHING Brother Buzz Mar 2025 #28
'Musk is warning Republicans to stop blaming DOGE for the cuts.' riversedge Mar 2025 #30
Hey Rocket Man tavernier Mar 2025 #32
Ass boil. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #33
idiot creon Mar 2025 #34
Both are graduates of Wharton Business School, valleyrogue Mar 2025 #37
THat does not mean very much. creon Mar 2025 #40
Go back to South Africa, Eloon. valleyrogue Mar 2025 #36
If you shit in your mess kit, you get to eat it. TomSlick Mar 2025 #41
"Can't bat a thousand"? Asshole, you've been on the wrong path for years! AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #42
Not me! Ida know! mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2025 #44
Midas touch . . . Aussie105 Mar 2025 #45
Maybe he's become worried about Tesla. Kablooie Mar 2025 #46
Should have thought about that before... Justice matters. Mar 2025 #49
Ladies and gents, the Steve Urkel of the federal government. KatyaR Mar 2025 #50
Another of his "Starships" just blew up with the parts strewn all over the Caribbean and seen by thousands... wcmagumba Mar 2025 #51
Weasley republicon wankers BoRaGard Mar 2025 #52
All a performance so the lawyers for DOJ in the court cases moniss Mar 2025 #54
the rs go sputter sputt sputt. according to my late mom AllaN01Bear Mar 2025 #55
If everything Chump touches dies, yhen Hassler Mar 2025 #62

Justice matters.

(9,794 posts)
47. F-Elon is suddenly afraid of the hundreds of lawsuits coming his way...
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 03:16 AM
Mar 2025

His ill-earned tax cuts may not be enough to cover the costs...

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
3. "can't bat a thousand all the time,"
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:35 PM
Mar 2025

He's at a point where approaching Bob Uecker's lifetime stats is a pipe-dream.

rampartd

(4,641 posts)
12. well below the "mendoza line"
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:46 PM
Mar 2025

wikipedia

The Mendoza Line is baseball jargon for a .200 batting average, the supposed threshold for offensive futility at the Major League level.[1] It derives from light-hitting shortstop Mario Mendoza, who failed to reach .200 five times in his nine big league seasons.[2] When a position player's batting average falls below .200, the player is said to be "below the Mendoza Line".

spooky3

(38,641 posts)
4. Sounds like an 8 year old holding a bat and talking to Mommy about
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:36 PM
Mar 2025

The window broken by a baseball.

unblock

(56,199 posts)
6. That's been the official story all along.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:36 PM
Mar 2025

Musk supposedly doesn't have any formal authority, but he says cut and Donnie says to the agency head do whatever musk says and the agency implements to cuts.

Musk has the authority in practice, but they hide behind the bureaucratic formalities when it suits them.

Native

(7,360 posts)
10. you nailed it. the article says it's unclear what fate would befall agency heads who failed to comply,
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:45 PM
Mar 2025

so....being fired and escorted out of a building doesn't send a message? seems pretty fucking clear to me! death threats? also pretty fucking hard to spin those.

unblock

(56,199 posts)
18. Officially he has no authority
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 04:14 PM
Mar 2025

In practice, if department heads are forced to do what musk says, then yeah, he has authority.

Bengus81

(10,173 posts)
7. What's the matter Musk,look at Tesla stock price today? Down $18.20 right now
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:38 PM
Mar 2025
However, Musk privately acknowledged that he’d made some massive missteps, and that he “can’t bat a thousand all the time,” four people familiar with his remarks told Politico. But when Musk misses a swing, people lose their livelihoods.


No shit Sherlock..........

Irish_Dem

(81,345 posts)
9. Psychopaths and narcissists always blame others.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:42 PM
Mar 2025

They are never responsible for their crimes or mistakes.

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
11. I believe this is all about civil liability
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:46 PM
Mar 2025

They are trying to duck the fact that they are acting as federal officials. The responsibility for firing people in federal positions and who did and their authority and who gave them their authority will all be part of litigation that fired people will institute.

BrianTheEVGuy

(697 posts)
24. Yep!
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 09:09 PM
Mar 2025

If I was wrongfully terminated in a defamatory fashion as a federal employee, I wouldn’t waste time in civil litigation against the bureaucracy.

I’d go for the super wealthy dude worth $400 billion who just got called out as the guy “leading DOGE” just a week after his lawyers insisted he wasn’t in charge.

Many more assets and a much higher change of an attorney who will work on contingency.

There are over 220K people who have been illegally terminated by FElon. That’s a LOT of civil litigation!

LiberalArkie

(19,819 posts)
43. Did Musk finally realize that he has no immunity?
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 01:48 AM
Mar 2025

And that unless he destroys the US, he is going to jail which of course destroys his wealth.

Justice matters.

(9,794 posts)
48. But you know, he's in the top tier of the two-tier justice system...
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 03:22 AM
Mar 2025

You know, the tier where the rich are above all laws.

The other tier is for the rest of us, where selling a cigarette on a boardwalk gets the immediate death penalty after 8 minutes of suffering.

BrianTheEVGuy

(697 posts)
61. True but
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 02:46 PM
Mar 2025

Even if the court lets him off the hook over and over again, that’s a lot of litigation and stress. It will take its toll.

NJCher

(43,181 posts)
53. This and a taxpayer class action
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 07:17 AM
Mar 2025

The taxpayer class action is being researched by Jamie Raskin. He is going to be releasing more details soon. There was a video posted here in which he talks about it.

I don’t know about you but when Jamie Raskin speaks, I listen. He is a noted constitutional scholar.

SheltieLover

(80,533 posts)
59. Raskin is a great official & brilliant!
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:31 AM
Mar 2025

I hope they sue both felons & all involved for everything they own.

🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

tulipsandroses

(8,252 posts)
29. Yep. Trying to make sure his actions stand up in court. The GOP cowards will turn around and rubber stamp
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 09:48 PM
Mar 2025

whatever cockamamie thing he comes up with.

madaboutharry

(42,034 posts)
13. Musk is as much a coward and weakling as Trump.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:46 PM
Mar 2025

They are just like all other bullies. Last week he was dancing around on a stage swinging a chain saw in the air while filled with pride over all the damage he was doing. Fast forward today and he his pointing the finger and blaming others. Typical narcissist.

Fuck this guy.

valleyrogue

(2,722 posts)
15. Have any of the "cuts" actually become reality?
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:57 PM
Mar 2025

All I hear are lawsuits filed. DOGE has NO authority for ANY "cuts."

James48

(5,217 posts)
21. Yes.. many people fired, many contracts cut.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 05:38 PM
Mar 2025

Musk’s people are doing most of it- telling Agrnciez if they don’t let them go tinker inside their computer systems, they. Are going to call SiyDafdy Musk, and the federal Marshall service to enforce.

valleyrogue

(2,722 posts)
38. It's mostly probationary employees.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 10:48 PM
Mar 2025

Most of it, though, appears to be horseshit thanks to all the lawsuits.

C Moon

(13,643 posts)
16. He's getting scared. Realizing that he isn't a super hero. And not as loved as he'd imagined.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:58 PM
Mar 2025

SheltieLover

(80,533 posts)
60. Possibly also coming to fhe realization tesla stock keeps tanking
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:35 AM
Mar 2025

There are protests at many tesla dealerships & charging stations have been set ablaze...

This could possibly be his first encounter with the fact that actions have consequesces.

Martin68

(27,758 posts)
19. Sounds like the Ketamine speaking. Where's the guy with the chainsaw? Like many businessmen, Musk is totally
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 04:35 PM
Mar 2025

ignorant of how government works and what it does - other than using the tax code and federal got green energy and the space program incentives to increase his wealth.

mcar

(46,064 posts)
25. The finger pointing begins
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 09:27 PM
Mar 2025

Also today, Agent Orange called in his cabinet to tell them that Musk doesn't have authority to fire anyone - only they do. Clown show.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
26. Then abolish fucking DOGE. Do away with this fiction. But we all know that's the last thing he'll do.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 09:29 PM
Mar 2025

Brother Buzz

(39,911 posts)
28. Dude already has his pecker marks over EVERYTHING
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 09:44 PM
Mar 2025

Methinks the asshole will be looking at thousands of upcoming civil lawsuits.

riversedge

(80,850 posts)
30. 'Musk is warning Republicans to stop blaming DOGE for the cuts.'
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 09:53 PM
Mar 2025

Well, geezzzzzzzzzzzz!! Lets just shift the blame around.

creon

(2,064 posts)
34. idiot
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 10:41 PM
Mar 2025

Musk is an idiot.

What is the reason for the relationship between Trump and Musk?

valleyrogue

(2,722 posts)
37. Both are graduates of Wharton Business School,
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 10:47 PM
Mar 2025

which isn't a good advertisement for said school.

 

AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
42. "Can't bat a thousand"? Asshole, you've been on the wrong path for years!
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 01:34 AM
Mar 2025

Get off the fucking drugs, and go back to helping relieve climate change!

Aussie105

(7,929 posts)
45. Midas touch . . .
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 02:35 AM
Mar 2025

Musk believes in his own infallibility.

Whatever he does, is good, and those who don't agree are clearly his enemies.

But the reverse Midas touch applies to both Trump and Musk, everything they touch crumbles into dust.

And both resort to it-wasn't-me-isms, or just straight out telling of fibs.
Believe me, both Trump and Musk can distort the fabric of reality, as well as space and time, like no one else.


Justice matters.

(9,794 posts)
49. Should have thought about that before...
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 03:31 AM
Mar 2025

acting like a irresponsible juvenile clown (at his age).

Vanity is a destroyer.

wcmagumba

(6,209 posts)
51. Another of his "Starships" just blew up with the parts strewn all over the Caribbean and seen by thousands...
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:45 AM
Mar 2025

As with all his exploits, the guy is a loser, just like Trumpy....lucked into riches but still an idiotic douche bag.

moniss

(9,058 posts)
54. All a performance so the lawyers for DOJ in the court cases
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 07:24 AM
Mar 2025

can say "See he really isn't doing it and so it's not illegal."

Hassler

(4,925 posts)
62. If everything Chump touches dies, yhen
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 05:00 PM
Mar 2025

Everything Leon touches crashes and burns--cars, rockets, federal government, stock market, etc...

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