'Deadly serious': NYT reports Trump told Canada he wants to 'revise' our border lines

[riversedge]

Source: msn


Story by Brad Reed • 2h •


The New York Times is reporting that the Canadian government is taking President Donald Trump's threats to make it America's "51st state" incredibly seriously based on a phone call Trump had last month with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

During the call, the Times' sources say, Trump "told Mr. Trudeau that he did not believe that the treaty that demarcates the border between the two countries was valid and that he wants to revise the boundary" and he also "mentioned revisiting the sharing of lakes and rivers between the two nations, which is regulated by a number of treaties."


Trump did not offer any specifics or additional information about what "revising" the border would look like but it was apparently enough to convince Trudeau that the president really had ambitions to annex his country as an American territory.


As if that weren't enough, the Times reports that Trump Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick has told Canadian officials that Trump is interested in ripping up decades-old treaties signed between the United States and Canada.

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"The Star, a Canadian newspaper, has reported that Mr. Trump mentioned the 1908 border treaty in the early February call and other details from the conversation," the paper writes. ...................



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WTF!!


1/ Donald Trump may be aiming to annex the Great Lakes – and possibly south-eastern Ontario in a maximalist scenario – and kick Canada out of NORAD, judging by first-hand accounts of talks between Canada and the Trump Administration. ⬇️

1/ Donald Trump may be aiming to annex the Great Lakes – and possibly south-eastern Ontario in a maximalist scenario – and kick Canada out of NORAD, judging by first-hand accounts of talks between Canada and the Trump Administration. ⬇️

— ChrisO_wiki (@chriso-wiki.bsky.social) 2025-03-07T15:08:07.477Z

10/ "And he is also reviewing military cooperation between the two countries, particularly the North American Aerospace Defense Command [NORAD].

— ChrisO_wiki (@chriso-wiki.bsky.social) 2025-03-07T15:08:07.486Z

[OrlandoDem2]

1. The world must stand up to Trump!! Thank you, Canada for spilling the beans!

[Jazz Jon]

38. Us too

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We must also stand up to Trump at home. So far it has not happened in any meaningfull way.

[Initech]

64. is it wrong if I'm actively rooting for some to liberate us from this evil?

I honestly don't know how much more of his evil shit I can take.

[calimary]

72. Doesn't seem wrong to me.

HE’S the one who’s wrong. About pretty much EVERYTHING.

A one-man plague on America - AND the world.

[Initech]

83. Not to mention his equally hideous family and his stupid news networks.

[Magoo48]

76. The world may be more inclined to stand up to the orange maggot if we set an example by doing it first.

So far, no such example.

[Irish_Dem]

2. Putin fingerprints all over this.

Trump is justifying the invasion of Ukraine and Taiwan.

China can take whatever it wants in the Pacific.
The same with Putin and Europe.

[Prairie Gates]

8. Agreed...what Trump is trying to normalize is the pure taking of territory and resources

Taking as such.

He's telling his followers and the world that the ability to take territory outweighs any other consideration: the strongest take; the weak have to live with it. This is the worldview (weltanschauung) of the Putinite philosophers that influence the contemporary fascist right (i.e., Dugin and others).

[Irish_Dem]

13. It is China's policy as well.

The Chinese have come right out and said that all intellectual property in the world belongs to them.
That people have no right to hog their ideas and creations.
The Chinese also feel that the entire Pacific is theirs as well.
And they lay claim to parts of Africa and South.

Trump, Putin, Xi have divided up the planet.
Trump gets North and Central America.
Putin gets Europe, Xi gets the Pacific.

[NJCher]

49. do you think this is a psyops

designed to get the world to live with the idea of putin taking Ukraine territory?

Or do you think it's for real, or maybe both?

[Prairie Gates]

52. Both

He is absolutely intent on annexing Canada in whole or in part. He needs the oil and gas, the aluminum / bauxite, and the fresh water. It is also the polar / Arctic connection to Russia that outflanks Europe completely. Hence also Greenland.

He's also demonstrating the principle that imperialism is the proper mode of the contemporary state, and that it was only a liberal illusion that quashed it or replayed it in a less overt way, 1945-2025, or whatever. When Trump says MAGA, he means that the racially superior Europeans whites, in their more perfect form as the rulers of the US, had every right to their empires, and the US should have never left the path of outright imperial conquest. Canada is Manifest Destiny. Greenland is. Whatever American empire sets its eyes on.

[NJCher]

95. I just marvel

at what has to be done to someone's brain to think that way.

Maybe fossilize the brain? There was one that showed up last week, a glass fossilized brain. Maybe it was his.

Thanks for your thoughts. Very interesting.

[Irish_Dem]

58. It's both. Trump is in charge of North and Central America.

He can take what he wants.

Putin, Xi, Trump divided up the planet while the US was napping.
Putin gets Europe, Xi the Pacific, Trump North and Central America.

[poli-junkie]

84. Who gets Australia?

[jmowreader]

106. Due to Australia's geographic location, I don't think they care

The Musk-Putin-Xi Axis of Evil is all in the Northern Hemisphere. The Axis doesn't have any significant territory in the Southern Hemisphere, so South America, Africa and Australia are safe at least until Musk decides he needs their mineral wealth for something.

[Captain Zero]

112. New Zealand

/s

[Attilatheblond]

55. Yep, he wants the USA to be completely isolated & without allies

[MiHale]

3. Go find the 1908 border treaty and see how inane he is...

Demarcation of a new border would take years upon years. Plus the Almighty Musk fired some the people to do it.

[Prairie Gates]

4. I'm really trying to imagine which Americans would be motivated to do this

Relative to how Canadians would be motivated to resist it.

Was "We have to annex parts of Canada" part of Trump's Presidential campaign? I mean, honestly, even the hardcore MAGAs have to be scratching their heads at some of this nonsense.

[riversedge]

5. Most of Canada's freshwater is in fact in the Great Lakes and the St Lawrence River. The Great Lakes (with the exception

@chriso-wiki.bsky.social‬
14/ Most of Canada's freshwater is in fact in the Great Lakes and the St Lawrence River. The Great Lakes (with the exception of Lake Michigan) are divided roughly down the middle between the US and Canada, which controls about 60% of their surface area.

14/ Most of Canada's freshwater is in fact in the Great Lakes and the St Lawrence River. The Great Lakes (with the exception of Lake Michigan) are divided roughly down the middle between the US and Canada, which controls about 60% of their surface area.

— ChrisO_wiki (@chriso-wiki.bsky.social) 2025-03-07T15:08:07.490Z

[brush]

6. TSF thinks he's the king of the world and can just order international borders...

change to his wishes. This crapola will go nowhere.

When are the rethugs going to admit the trump is fucking insame?

[AmericaUnderSiege]

7. LOL. Americans will defend Canada with our lives.

That is all.

[Tree Lady]

9. yep my hubby says he will fight

for Canada if it comes to it and he is 75!

[AmericaUnderSiege]

14. These traitors love to run their mouths.

They love making real people scared. Don't be.

[GiqueCee]

20. I'll be 78 this year...

... and I will join him. I'm also a deadly marksman.

[Tree Lady]

87. Hubby says he was number 14

Out of 320 guys in training in army in shooting targets. That he was drafted into.

[twodogsbarking]

10. They are laughing at you Trumpo. Go sulk at the golf course.

[louis-t]

11. Does ANYONE think he studied the treaties himself?

No, Project 2025 authors and/or contributors are whispering in his ear. Putin may also have a hand in this. He's just waving his little shrimp dick in everyone's faces.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

56. tRump didn't even study his 2018 treaty w Canada & Mexico that tRump signed and now thinks is trash. . . . nt

[Progressive dog]

12. Maybe the Arabs could take in

Canadian refugees and Trump could turn the Canadian side of the Saint Lawrence River into a new Riviera.
Trump is a stupid and very dangerous child.

[IronLionZion]

15. Is there oil there or something?

Why is he continuing to antagonize Canada?

[FakeNoose]

71. He's taking orders from Putin ... the point is to normalize Putin's behavior

"It's like this see? If Putin can invade Ukraine, I can invade Canada. We'll take whatever we want."

[IronLionZion]

82. Whateva, whateva, I do what I want!

[Bluetus]

16. If Putin can do it, I can do it.

[birdographer]

45. This is it in a nutshell.

He is just copying Putin’s move against Ukraine. Only in this case his dick is bigger because Canada is a bigger country than Ukraine.

[orangecrush]

67. This

[LudwigPastorius]

17. _

[ButchMcMuffin]

65. I love the smell of napalm in the morning

I hope they use on Dumpy and all.

Burn mother fucker burn!!

[List left]

18. What is next?

Returning Texas to Mexico and Alaska to Russia?

[LymphocyteLover]

23. more like taking over much of Mexico and annexing Greenland

[NotHardly]

19. Just great...start a war with Canada. Remember last time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington

We don't need this FAFO

[IbogaProject]

40. Britain was selective during the 1812 war

They only hit government buildings. Whereas we hit civilians up north, when we attacked first.

[NNadir]

21. The US should be expelled from NATO and European troops deployed on the....

...US/Canadian border.

[LymphocyteLover]

22. Impeach him, 25th amendment him, drug him, whatever-- just get him the fuck out of the presidency

[HarryM]

79. Luigi?

[LymphocyteLover]

92. say no more

[Andy Canuck]

24. To be honest

I know we aren't supposed to say anything against the Democrats, but living in Canada and facing actual invasion scenarios by the US: the democrats look to the rest of the world as a bunch of inept posers afraid of confronting the idiot. Yes it's scary to confront a crazy man, but it's got to be done. The world wishes the Democrats would actually start using their power and getting in the way of the idiot's agenda. Crocket, Green, AOC, Bernie are out there telling it like it is, but from the outside looking in, the rest of the Democrats look like co-conspirators in a coup (10 Dems voted to censure Green!!!! - WTF?). History will be clear, the Democratic party didn't do its job in stopping the idiot. Because, when troops and tanks are entering Canada, will that be enough to stop this craziness or are you all going to roll over again? I think the Dems will let the tanks roll. Democrats should never have given Reagan his tax cuts in 1981.

[Festivito]

25. Maybe northern states will get Canadian health care?

Could be he would be giving some land back.
Perhaps we could vote on which country we'll be.

[ECL213]

39. I don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan...

'cause I'm from O-HI-O.

Teeheehee. JK.

[ButchMcMuffin]

69. Oh quit your bitching

You guys got that strip of land!

[ECL213]

90. You can have Toledo back.

[ButchMcMuffin]

96. First off

Oh hell no!

Second...I don't even live in Michigan

[Festivito]

78. I'd be glad to take you along. Directions are still the same from UoM.

Go south till you smell it,
Turn left until you step in it.

Not that your school down there isn't excellent! It certainly is.
Hey, if you can't go to Michigan, I would be happy for you to attend OSU
and raise two schools' averages in the process.

...laughed schmee :-{)

[ECL213]

89. Ann Arbor is a whore...

I had the "North 'til you smell it..." bumper sticker back in the 80s.

I'm tired of you guys ruining my Thanksgiving weekend

[Grim Chieftain]

26. What the hell does it take

for this corrupt, mentally deranged idiot to be removed from office? Surely Republicans have to know that standing with him will likely result in their political demise in 2026. And what will it take for our Democratic "leaders" to grow a pair and stand up? This is our country, our democracy that is in your hands! DO SOMETHING!!!!

[LudwigPastorius]

35. "What the hell does it take for this corrupt, mentally deranged idiot to be removed from office?"

It takes 4 more Democrats in the House and 19 more in the Senate...at a minimum.

[Grim Chieftain]

43. I understand that

But are there no Republicans who love this democracy more than him? It is so frustrating, and frankly frightening to think of the damage that can be done before the 2026 elections. I keep hoping for a miracle...

[purrmaid]

97. The French had a method

It only required a silken pillow and a firm resolve.

[AllyCat]

44. Welcome to DU!

I agree with your sentiments. I think the co-conspirators in Congress know that there will be no more elections and if they sit tight, they'll have a permanent position in Congress.

[Grim Chieftain]

46. Thanks so much for the welcome!

Long time lurker, new poster. DU keeps me sane in these difficult times.

[NJCher]

94. just caught this a few minutes ago

Surely Republicans have to know that standing with him will likely result in their political demise in 2026.

Rep Jake Auchincloss, MA, said the same in a live show originating from Jim Acosta's substack. I will try to find the video when they post it and link it here.

He revealed some verrrrry interesting things that are being discussed by Dems to insure Ukraine can defend itself. I about fell over at how effective some of it seemed.

[Harker]

27. Give him a card table and a plastic toy telephone...

and let him while away his days somewhere insulting and threatening world leaders, and drinking Diet Coke.

[tanyev]

99. Hell, hire some actors to pretend to be all the world leaders

and they can reply with all the fawning or terror his psyche seems to need in the moment. Money well spent.

[Harker]

100. I like that idea. I still have a pretty good James Mason.

That might keep him busy few a few minutes.

[S/V Loner]

28. I agree... Let's revise them to...

leave the US with only the red States. Those in the red States are welcome to join the rest of us in Canada.

[Bev54]

29. I suppose Puttie put him up to that.

You let me take Ukraine and I will let you have Canada. What a fucking psycho.

[CincyDem]

30. I can see what this is a good idea, I mean...

…who won’t want to honeymoon at America Falls.

[KS Toronado]

31. This just another of his planned distractions ?

"Hey LOOK OVER THERE !", meanwhile his crypto coin fiasco to steal all the money in the
Treasury and destroying the Constitution get very little notice from MSM.

[elleng]

32. tmp says a lot of ignorant things; he should be IGNORED.

[BeyondGeography]

33. A terminal case of Putin envy

[viva la]

34. We tried that in 1812--

Lost. Ontario doesn't want to be part of the US.

[FoggyLake]

36. The POS-in-Chief is taking all his cues directly from Putin

"If Putin can steal land from sovereign countries, so can I!" He will advance on his threats because he is insane.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

37. Trump's Canada doctrine in two words:

[Martin Eden]

41. Trudeau should have responded: I understand that some of your northern states might want to be incorporated into Canada

But we reserve the right to deport MAGA voters, as it's highly unlikely they'd make good Canadian citizens.

[badhair77]

42. No. Just no.

trump thinks he can take what he wants but there has to be a limit. He is awful.

[SARose]

47. I don't understand why he thinks he will prevail

The 1908 Treaty is pretty straightforward, in my opinion.

See here

This document references two earlier treaties as well.

Do you think he’s going to say the treaty is between Great Britain and the US? The treaty does say “the Dominion of Canada.”

With his shyster lawyers (apologies to attorneys) it could be.

[Amaryllis]

80. Charles just met with Trudeau to make Canada a soveign country instead of part of the commonwealth.

[defacto7]

102. I don't think he cares what any treaty says. He thinks he's above all documents ...

the US constitution, for example.

[SARose]

103. Yes he does

He also thinks he is a great negotiator. Pfftt

[Paladin]

48. Nations have gone to war for far less.

What an utter humiliation this new regime is.

[kacekwl]

50. This fool trump needs to be treated like the idiot he is.

Canada tell him to shut up and go lie down old man.

[flashman13]

51. There is no question that tRump is an absolute raving lunatic. He belongs in a rubber room.

[Dave Bowman]

53. The idiot is totally delirious.

[SunSeeker]

54. Insanity!

[bronxiteforever]

57. Friday distraction.

[spooky3]

59. NOBODY fucking voted for this, you orange traitor! nt

[Abstractartist]

60. He is an idiot

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He is nothing but a sociopathic, narcissistic idiot who says stupid shit to get us to talk amongst ourselves about his stupid shit. He knows Canada will never change its borders, the same way the rest of the world still says Gulf of Mexico. He knows he is just an old lame duck president who’s only goal is to get his name in the history books, not as the public servants in the same class as FDR, JFK, Carter, Clinton, Obama, and other world leaders helping the people, but he wants to be in the same breathe as Hitler, Stalin, Putin, Mussolini, et. al the other ilk who were/are out to line their pockets and try to achieve glory. He will go down as a scumbucket of a president and a complete loser, convicted felon, rapist, and all round dirty shitstain on this country’s history. Hopefully when he’s gone, and the Trump presidential library only has a beat up copy of Go Dog Go on its shelves, his name goes into the wastebasket of presidential records.

[BadgerMom]

61. Alexander Dugin whispers in Putin's ear. Trump takes his orders from Putin.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/alexander-dugin-kremlin-russia-washington-trump-gbl75grz5

Canada is wise to take this seriously. Minimizing it endangers everyone.

Wasn’t it just last week that the WSJ editorial board suggested Trump was helping enable this sectioning off of the world? I believe it was. I don’t subscribe so I can’t link.

[Amaryllis]

88. THe Dugan article should be its own op, if you are so inclined.

[Hekate]

62. trump will keep doing this UNTIL HE IS STOPPED

[yellow dahlia]

63. We like Canada. And I like that nice Justin.

We have two mentally unstable breaking everything that matters, including our relationships w/ our neighbors.

[ButchMcMuffin]

74. So does Melania!! n/t

[orangecrush]

66. Madman

[Laurelin]

68. I realize we have a big military

But is it big enough to invade Canada, Greenland, and Panama, while patrolling the borders and shooting peaceful American protesters? Plus they'd have to control all those countries even if they succeeded with their annexation. Meanwhile who's paying for the wars? He's bankrupting the US, the middle class won't have anything left to tax, and do we really believe his billionaire buddies will finance his ambitions?

Anyway I'm counting on youall to defend Canada. I'm across the Atlantic so I'm warming up my cast iron skillet to fight the Russians. Seriously. I'm old but I'd rather die fighting to protect democracy than act like some snivelling weasel of a traitorous republican.

Apologies to weasels.

[Blues Heron]

70. Someone 25th or impeach this kook

[FakeNoose]

73. Yes ... please !!!

[dchill]

75. And yet not a single Republican in Congress...

...will think of the word "impeach."

[underpants]

77. He wants to control the lakes primarily I'd guess.

[FloridaBlues]

81. The idiot must think he can do this by EO!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

85. trump is nuts

[Joinfortmill]

86. He's demented.

[Strelnikov_]

91. Not going to be much of a DEW line

With no stations in the Canadian arctic.

[3catwoman3]

93. ..."revise our border lines."

That's some pretzel-twisty Newspeak for invade.

[purrmaid]

98. He fails to realize it can go the other way, too.

n/t

[MorbidButterflyTat]

101. WTF

When I read outrageously insane bullshit like this from that disgusting blob I imagine the exploding heads, torches, pitchforks, tar and feathers if a Democratic president was pulling one zillionth of this never ending shit!

He doesn't like a treaty so it's over? WTAF!? He wants to steal social security so that's over? He wants to help himself to every government agency's funding so it's all his? And everyone else goes down the shitter?

WTAF.

[LilyBelle]

104. Sharpie time!

Please make the west coast part of Canada.

[Borogove]

105. Just an endless stream of inanity, insanity, and depravity. What an age we live in.

[NBachers]

107. I grew up in sight of Lake Ontario. Scab Maggot opportunists see the Great Lakes as an "underutilized resource."

Hands Off the Great Lakes!

[Wild blueberry]

108. Crash and grab

The morbidly rich and their enablers want to seize all resources, financial and physical. That includes the earth's largest source of fresh water, our great lakes. Also our national parks.
We could face climate change head on and do everything in our power to slow it and mitigate the damages. I believe that is what most people on earth want to do, me included.
The morbidly rich want to steal and lock down everything for themselves, and to hell with the rest of humanity and other sentient beings. They seem to be in the execution phase now.
I live in Wisconsin and would rather all the great lakes states become part of Canada.

[DFW]

109. Let me guess---Trump told Trudeau that Canada had to give us British Columbia

In return, we'd give then North Dakota. And then Trump was pissed when Trudeau didn't go for it.

[Rhiannon12866]

110. Good Grief!!!

[Old Testament Libera]

111. Completely brain-dead to kick Canada out of NORAD

Canada is where the DEW stations have to be put, because it is the first in line for ICBM trajectories from Russia.

Trump is so damn stupid, that he doesn't realize the agreement benefits the US a lot more than Canada. The Russian don't want to hit Canada, they want to hit the US. If our radar stations are limited the US soil, then we have a massive hole in our warning system.