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BumRushDaShow

(164,474 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:47 AM Jun 2025

GOP eyes bailout for hospitals poised to go broke from Medicaid cuts

Source: Raw Story

June 18, 2025 8:06PM ET


Senate Republicans are now considering a new addition to their "big, beautiful bill" of tax cuts for President Donald Trump, Politico reported: a bailout fund for hospitals at risk of shuttering due to the bill's Medicaid cuts. The version of the bill passed by the House already cut $600 billion from Medicaid, in part by enacting new draconian work requirements and bans on people who fail to meet them from accessing Affordable Care Act subsidies.

But the Senate wants to go even further, slashing "provider taxes" states use to get fund-matching for the program — a move that rural hospital executives have warned could be devastating and leave many areas without medical providers at all. Even some pro-Trump senators are concerned this could hurt their states, but Republicans have a new idea to get them on board.

"Senate Majority Leader John Thune of South Dakota and Finance Chair Mike Crapo of Idaho are in talks with Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Josh Hawley of Missouri, among others, over how to address their concerns that scaling back the provider tax, which many states use to fund their Medicaid programs, would negatively impact rural hospitals," wrote Jordain Carney and Robert King.

"One idea under discussion is to establish a fund for rural hospitals that would be impacted by the changes to the provider tax structure in the party-line domestic policy package, according to three people granted anonymity to discuss private negotiations." “I’m looking at whether there would be receptivity to a provider relief fund that would be aimed at rural hospitals, nursing homes and community health centers,” Collins said.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/medicaid-hospitals/





I don't know WTF these miscreants thought the funding towards Medicaid was being used for. It's not a fucking "slush fund" like programs that the GOP sets up for themselves.
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GOP eyes bailout for hospitals poised to go broke from Medicaid cuts (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2025 OP
Bribing MAGAts to re-elect them. no_hypocrisy Jun 2025 #1
Is it though? gab13by13 Jun 2025 #3
What good is the hospital if the person no longer has Medicaid? mdbl Jun 2025 #18
Yeah hildegaard28 Jun 2025 #21
Republicans are so bad at business. travelingthrulife Jun 2025 #27
keeping hospitals open, while unavailable to everyone due to insurance? rampartd Jun 2025 #24
So this fund for rural hospitals gab13by13 Jun 2025 #2
"I assume it will only be used in red states?" BumRushDaShow Jun 2025 #7
A lot of that empty land doesn't vote. travelingthrulife Jun 2025 #28
I know BumRushDaShow Jun 2025 #39
Maybe I'm being overly simplistic, boonecreek Jun 2025 #4
No, not overly simplistic . . . but it might displease President Enraged Baby Huey . . . hatrack Jun 2025 #9
I totally agree, boonecreek. That's the first thing I thought of when I read this original post. wordstroken Jun 2025 #15
And hildegaard28 Jun 2025 #22
We have to be cruel and heartless first. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #35
The point is to kill off blue populations and bronxiteforever Jun 2025 #37
But also remember BumRushDaShow Jun 2025 #41
Tax us more to screw the poor. delisen Jun 2025 #5
Wouldn't it be more efficient to just fund Medicaid so the hospitals can do their job? Eugene Jun 2025 #6
I am on Medicare gab13by13 Jun 2025 #10
That's logical, but......................... Lovie777 Jun 2025 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author surfered Jun 2025 #8
defunding enid602 Jun 2025 #11
Uhhh bagimin Jun 2025 #14
GOP Plans to fix problem they are about to create BOSSHOG Jun 2025 #13
Hospitals nobody can afford to go to... Hugin Jun 2025 #16
Another fix to a TSF generated problem. Just like billions to farmers sinkingfeeling Jun 2025 #17
Mindless Fucks Canada Kid Jun 2025 #19
Or they hildegaard28 Jun 2025 #20
SO let me get this straight they are going to rob Peter to pay Paul............... turbinetree Jun 2025 #23
Here's a thought. You wouldn't have to do a bailout if you would just leave Medicaid alone. Baitball Blogger Jun 2025 #25
"Eyeing a bailout" after stealing medicaid money for oligarchs is one thing. Actually doing it is another. IF they do, ancianita Jun 2025 #26
Correction bailout to the venture capitalist groups who are bankrupting those hospitals JT45242 Jun 2025 #29
Turning a deliberative funding mechanism into a personal extortion racket Prairie Gates Jun 2025 #30
Think about this. They want to offset the money they save from cutting people off.... JohnnyRingo Jun 2025 #31
Blue states subsidizing red states is the plan Mysterian Jun 2025 #32
Didn't really think that out did they? underpants Jun 2025 #33
Jesus Christ no! JustAnotherGen Jun 2025 #34
Oh, my god nowforever Jun 2025 #36
Because not cutting Medicaid is just too simple sakabatou Jun 2025 #38
anything that gives to red states stillcool Jun 2025 #40
Stupid. Just like firing hundreds of essential federal personnel and then hiring them back. To save money? Martin68 Jun 2025 #42
The rich don't need too many hospitals. They have boutique medicine. littlemissmartypants Jun 2025 #43

no_hypocrisy

(53,982 posts)
1. Bribing MAGAts to re-elect them.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:52 AM
Jun 2025

Money is fungible. It’s Medicaid money with a different name.

gab13by13

(30,909 posts)
3. Is it though?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:58 AM
Jun 2025

It's money to keep rural hospitals open for rich people only. Who decides which rural hospitals get bailed out?

mdbl

(7,965 posts)
18. What good is the hospital if the person no longer has Medicaid?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:23 AM
Jun 2025

It will be a bunch of medics sitting around waiting for someone that can afford to pay.

hildegaard28

(792 posts)
21. Yeah
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:37 AM
Jun 2025

Someone needs to tell these idiots that these organizations need a steady supply of income. A one -time bailout will not keep their doors open.

rampartd

(3,334 posts)
24. keeping hospitals open, while unavailable to everyone due to insurance?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:51 AM
Jun 2025

again, as you say, we subsidize the rich.

gab13by13

(30,909 posts)
2. So this fund for rural hospitals
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:56 AM
Jun 2025

I assume it will only be used in red states?

Fuck these evil fuckers.

I said many years ago that one of the reasons that Republicans were opposed to single payer healthcare was because it would put poor people in line for healthcare ahead of rich people. That is one of the drawbacks for Canada's healthcare, it takes longer to see a doctor because poor people are in line.

BumRushDaShow

(164,474 posts)
7. "I assume it will only be used in red states?"
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:18 AM
Jun 2025

ALOT of their voters like here in PA as you know, ARE in the "rural areas" - and that includes "blue" states like CA & NY.

All you have to do is look at a color-coded map of every state and their vote in the 2024 election. You see the "blue dots" (and/or county regions, which have the most population and majority (D)s) embedded in wide swaths of red, that the GOP keeps pointing to to claim that "they are the majority" although many of their red counties are barely the population of a blue city's single neighborhood.



This is their most-hated state of CA -



In CA, the cities are mostly clustered near the coast and much of the rest of the state (bar Sacramento & Fresno) is rural.

IL voted for Harris but -



NY voted for Harris but -

BumRushDaShow

(164,474 posts)
39. I know
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:06 AM
Jun 2025

That is why this is in my sig (although it's way at the end and ends up on a hidden 2nd row ) -



But all those farms are located in those areas with his voters, they pushed back, he paused the order to round their workers up, and then rescinded the pause.

boonecreek

(1,346 posts)
4. Maybe I'm being overly simplistic,
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:01 AM
Jun 2025

But wouldn't not doing the Medicaid cuts in the first place accomplish the same thing?

hatrack

(64,088 posts)
9. No, not overly simplistic . . . but it might displease President Enraged Baby Huey . . .
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:33 AM
Jun 2025

So, they'll do the next best thing - an expensive band-aid to get them past the mid-terms.

Oh, and I see Josh Hawley has once again donned his Friend Of The Working Man Superhero Cape (tm).

wordstroken

(1,400 posts)
15. I totally agree, boonecreek. That's the first thing I thought of when I read this original post.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:03 AM
Jun 2025


🦋 wordstroken

Irish_Dem

(78,726 posts)
35. We have to be cruel and heartless first.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:48 AM
Jun 2025

Then we bail out the hospitals, not the people.

bronxiteforever

(11,022 posts)
37. The point is to kill off blue populations and
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:54 AM
Jun 2025

exempt red populations. It’s easy once you assume evil motives on their part. Nobody hates Americans that live in cities more than red legislators.

BumRushDaShow

(164,474 posts)
41. But also remember
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:20 AM
Jun 2025

that they concocted a fictional universe where a "blue state" was "all blue" and apparently contained no "red voters" or business owners in rural areas. So they are assuming that when they raid rural farms, they are hurting a "blue" owner but they're not.

delisen

(7,186 posts)
5. Tax us more to screw the poor.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:03 AM
Jun 2025

The obvious sane policy is to keep Medicaid coverage for poor and disabled people thus also keeping hospitals open for all of us.

But Republicans want to tax us more for bailouts to keep hospitals open while denying medical care to poor and disabled people.


gab13by13

(30,909 posts)
10. I am on Medicare
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:34 AM
Jun 2025

I needed a new knee. My wait time was 7 months to be operated on. Once they make Medicare into Medicare Advantage plans, I won't be allowed to have my 2nd knee replaced this will cut the wait time down for rich people who need knee replacement.

Removing poor people from getting healthcare takes them out of line and allows rich people to get faster treatment.

Wait times in the emergency room will be reduced for rich people, no poor people in line ahead of them.

Lovie777

(21,395 posts)
12. That's logical, but.........................
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:59 AM
Jun 2025

GQP only concerns: 1. Money in their pockets.

2. Greed.

3. Power.

4. Control.

4. Wealthy.

5. Screw everyone else.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

enid602

(9,599 posts)
11. defunding
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:53 AM
Jun 2025

They’re partially re funding Medicaid to save rural hospitals, yet appear to be defunding FEMA. They advised this week that no Department of Transportation funds will be distributed to cities that had a ‘no kings’ protest, effectively defunding that agency as well. This is nuts.

BOSSHOG

(44,358 posts)
13. GOP Plans to fix problem they are about to create
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:00 AM
Jun 2025

Groundhog Caucus. Mike Johnson saw his shadow today. Another 12 months of inane chaos.

Hugin

(37,242 posts)
16. Hospitals nobody can afford to go to...
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:17 AM
Jun 2025

A self licking ice cream cone of perpetual bailouts. Yep, sounds like a Republican plan.

 

Canada Kid

(257 posts)
19. Mindless Fucks
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:28 AM
Jun 2025

If you stupid MAGA morons had anything but shit for brains...you would have known that Medicaid was helping to run those hospitals!
DUHHH!!! Shortsighted stupidity is the new NORMAL for America

hildegaard28

(792 posts)
20. Or they
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:34 AM
Jun 2025

Could just not cut Medicaid so they wouldn't need bailouts. How much do these morons think those bailouts would cost? More or less than the entire budget of Medicaid. Republicans are so stupid. They couldn't logic themselves out of a paper bag.

turbinetree

(26,852 posts)
23. SO let me get this straight they are going to rob Peter to pay Paul...............
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:48 AM
Jun 2025

Collins will cave and so will Hawley and whoever else .........this is the same bunch that didn't have the balls to impeach a traitor not once but twice.............and a US Supreme Court 6 sitting crime ridden members giving the asshole immunity and lets not forget Citizens United that placed this country in the shit hole.............................

Baitball Blogger

(51,584 posts)
25. Here's a thought. You wouldn't have to do a bailout if you would just leave Medicaid alone.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:23 AM
Jun 2025

I swear it would not surprise me if Republicans began to spoon food in through their rectum.

ancianita

(42,724 posts)
26. "Eyeing a bailout" after stealing medicaid money for oligarchs is one thing. Actually doing it is another. IF they do,
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:24 AM
Jun 2025

they'll only bail out medicaid run places in red states, leaving the sick & old to die in blue states.

JT45242

(3,788 posts)
29. Correction bailout to the venture capitalist groups who are bankrupting those hospitals
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:30 AM
Jun 2025

This is about protecting venture capitalist overlord donors and not hospitals.

JohnnyRingo

(20,367 posts)
31. Think about this. They want to offset the money they save from cutting people off....
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:32 AM
Jun 2025

......health care by giving that money to "rural" hospitals that may suffer closure.
That will cover red state hospitals while still leaving blue urban facilities on their own.

That way they can maximize the impact on poor people (minorities) while leaving no fingerprints behind.

Mysterian

(6,120 posts)
32. Blue states subsidizing red states is the plan
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:33 AM
Jun 2025

moving forward until blue states can do anything about it. Thanks to the archaic electoral college and undemocratric apportionment of senators.

 

nowforever

(586 posts)
36. Oh, my god
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:50 AM
Jun 2025

You mean giving trillions to the rich and having it come out of the pockets of the poor is not good.

Martin68

(26,811 posts)
42. Stupid. Just like firing hundreds of essential federal personnel and then hiring them back. To save money?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:09 AM
Jun 2025

littlemissmartypants

(31,109 posts)
43. The rich don't need too many hospitals. They have boutique medicine.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jun 2025

And it's not just the hospitals. It's a domino effect.
Employees...
Vendors...
Local businesses...
Tax revenue...
Etc...

Hospitals are often the main employers in a population area. Bankrupt them and the entire town could fall.


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