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riversedge

(76,388 posts)
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:34 AM Saturday

Texas Officials Blame Agency Gutted by Trump for Results of Deadly Storm

Source: meidas news




Experts warned for months about cuts to NWS and NOAA

Ron Filipkowski Jul 05, 2025

As the best and the brightest were being fired at the National Weather Service and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration by senseless and draconian ‘DOGE’ cuts earlier this year under Trump, with no reason given except for the need to cut a paltry amount of the government’s budget, experts warned repeatedly that the cuts would have deadly consequences during the storm season. And they have.

......................

And the chickens have come home to roost. Hundreds of people have already been killed across the US in a variety of storms including deadly tornadoes - many of which were inaccurately forecasted. And we are just entering peak hurricane season. Meteorologist Chris Vagasky posted earlier this spring on social media: “The world’s example for weather services is being destroyed.”

Now, after severe flooding in non-evacuated areas in Texas has left at least 24 dead with dozens more missing, including several young girls at a summer camp, Texas officials are blaming their failure to act on a faulty forecast by Donald Trump’s new National Weather Service gutted by cuts to their operating budget and most experienced personnel.

At a press conference last night, one official said: “The original forecast we received on Wednesday from the National Weather Service predicted 3-6” of rain in the Concho Valley and 4-8” of rain in the hill country. The amount of rain that fell in these locations was never in any of their forecasts. Everybody got the forecast from the National Weather Service. They did not predict the amount of rain that we saw.” .................................................

Read more: https://www.meidasplus.com/p/texas-officials-blame-agency-gutted?r=9qw74&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true



This is significant--and official blaming the horrible tragedy on the Trump cuts in funding!!
Sadly, the kids are DEAD!!



When experts warned for months that the NWS “is being destroyed” by Trump’s personnel cuts, Howard Lutnick assured Congress that forecasting won’t be affected. Now TX officials are blaming a faulty forecast by NWS for the deadly impact of a storm. open.substack.com/pub/meidasto...

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2025-07-05T11:20:48.712Z
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Texas Officials Blame Agency Gutted by Trump for Results of Deadly Storm (Original Post) riversedge Saturday OP
The water was very wet. DJT. twodogsbarking Saturday #1
Sadly add these preventable deaths to the convicted idiot's record: Justice matters. Saturday #43
Trump's response to the Covid pandemic set the pattern for this. sop Saturday #54
Cruelty is the point. /nt brakester Saturday #83
THIS is what you all voted for. MLWR Saturday #2
Shall I pass your cheerful message on to my daughter's friends? Paladin Saturday #16
Let's just blame Trump and his basket of thugs. twodogsbarking Saturday #30
Obviously the problem is that it was not sold off to Accuweather like Reagan wanted. LiberalArkie Saturday #40
I live about two miles from Accuweather. There are many stories. Peace. Happy 5th of July. twodogsbarking Saturday #99
I am so sorry. murielm99 Saturday #31
I probably ought to be able to handle it better. God knows I see this sort of thing on DU, way too often. Paladin Saturday #38
My heart goes out to you and your friends. I hope her daughter is okay. chowder66 Saturday #36
I'm so sorry. littlemissmartypants Saturday #55
I am a Dem Texas voter. Many of my now grown daughters 's friends went to that camp and their daughters probably efhmc Saturday #66
One of my middle child's classmates used to go to Camp Mystic every summer LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #84
Disagree Mary Adeline Saturday #113
I am well-aware of how Texas voted. Paladin Saturday #114
Please do!! DFW Yesterday #121
Agree. I mean Texas officials complaining turns irony on its head completely. ananda Saturday #52
Abbott DENVERPOPS Saturday #76
Never underestimate the conservative "pro-life" contempt Dr. T Saturday #98
Because it's never been about "pro-life"... regnaD kciN Saturday #101
Feels good, doesn't it? Using dead kids to dunk on people who you think deserve dead kids. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #62
I post this map all the time but I'm guilty too, of red state/blue state thinking & speech. CrispyQ Saturday #78
The US Senate is essentially elected by Land. thought crime Yesterday #123
This should be top news story of the weekend. Diamond_Dog Saturday #3
Let's see how many reporters are brave enough to report this on the news. Baitball Blogger Saturday #14
Dancing on the balcony underpants Saturday #4
Fox News really is a cancer on America Botany Saturday #6
That's Fox to a T. Ailes knew what he was doing. Sadly. underpants Saturday #87
Fox News' female talent are just like Murdoch's page 3 girls from "The Sun." Botany Saturday #90
Yep. If you've never seen "Bombshell" I'd highly recommend it underpants Saturday #95
Fox was built on lying by Ailes and Murdoch. "Feel the warmth of their marriage." Botany Saturday #96
I think I'm going to barf... llmart Saturday #7
P.S. to my post... llmart Saturday #9
It's the double giraffe jerkoff Aviation Pro Saturday #11
The two handed handy J as his feet are stuck in concrete dance Botany Saturday #17
He thinks he's cool and hip. llmart Saturday #33
It's worse than embarrassing. Much worse. sop Saturday #56
Krasnov's mental illness doesn't let him see himself as the complete buffoon that he is. Botany Saturday #86
Spot-on assessment Batshit_Bruin_CA Saturday #106
Elaine Benes of "Seinfeld" has a similar style. oasis Yesterday #122
The convicted idiot said he has a good life... Justice matters. Saturday #46
Did he really say that? llmart Saturday #79
He said that (and worse) after a question about how long detainees Justice matters. Saturday #116
That's why I skip a hell of a lot of MTN videos. Jesus,that guy is obsessed with playing FOX vids Bengus81 Saturday #28
Yes, I quit watching NJCher Saturday #29
I skip them all SCantiGOP Saturday #45
Same electricmonk Saturday #71
If ever there was a project for AI, transcribing video would be a good one! CrispyQ Saturday #80
Faux crew is disgusting. Nt Trueblue Texan Saturday #15
Hitler used to do a little dance, too. murielm99 Saturday #32
I thought you were kidding Farmer-Rick Saturday #39
The "I murdered six million Jews" dance... sop Saturday #60
Me too. llmart Saturday #81
The pattern continues Farmer-Rick Saturday #37
trump went golfing also LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #85
So much empathy. BidenRocks Saturday #93
T💩p is jerking off two ghosts again I see. OMGWTF Saturday #103
Yes yes and yes. 👍 underpants Saturday #109
There are going to be millions more of senseless, unnecessary deaths gab13by13 Saturday #5
It doesn't matter if they kill people, ruin lives, and crash the economy because the vote is so rigged. Botany Saturday #8
No... GiqueCee Saturday #10
This................... Lovie777 Saturday #18
Hell no. Don't forget, he's one of the club. Those billionaire tax cuts also directly benefit him. the nelm Saturday #20
minus casualties??? llmart Saturday #34
Also can't let people hear there might be something to human cause climate change DBoon Saturday #48
Sady, they'll just blame this on "big government" Diraven Saturday #12
So now a State government has tested the Theory of FAFO. Good Luck! n/t aggiesal Saturday #13
So how's the Texas emergency management agency doing with helping survivors? sinkingfeeling Saturday #19
It will be blamed on 'the government' and we all know who builds big government... travelingthrulife Saturday #21
President Biden's fault............. Lovie777 Saturday #24
Horrible democrank Saturday #22
It was always going to be: Not IF, but WHEN aeromanKC Saturday #23
Musk shouldn't escape blame for this krkaufman Saturday #42
Paper towels for everyone. BradBo Saturday #25
a flood watch was issued teh day before moonshinegnomie Saturday #26
Also, isn't 6" - 8" inches of rain quite a serious amount? Mike 03 Saturday #47
its a serious amount moonshinegnomie Saturday #58
Ditto!! CrispyQ Saturday #92
Yes it is Strelnikov_ Saturday #110
Reminscent of Nixon's DST debacle bucolic_frolic Saturday #27
The bad weather is Biden's weather; the good weather is Trump's.... Ol Janx Spirit Saturday #35
Ya think TX officials' blaming or complaining matters to the felon? The only real talk the felon might care about is ancianita Saturday #41
Yet Trump's carnage continues Grim Chieftain Saturday #44
Yes. If there were an answer for your question we'd know it by now. ancianita Saturday #61
I agree Grim Chieftain Saturday #64
Well, then... ancianita Saturday #65
Well that little tirade was unnecessary Grim Chieftain Saturday #69
It wasn't mean to be that, just an explanation. ancianita Saturday #72
All is good Grim Chieftain Saturday #75
And a hurricane season is starting. LisaL Saturday #49
"I voted for leopards to eat other people's kids...then the leopards ate MY kids!" COL Mustard Saturday #50
There are good number of new members of the Leopards Eating People's Face Party LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #89
Also, the areas in Texas that were affected are deep red. ananda Saturday #51
Texas is MAGA ground-zero for bullshit and lies. Martin68 Saturday #53
I hate tRump, and agree the NWS and NOAA cuts are already proving disastrous. However, plenty txwhitedove Saturday #57
And yet TX leadership are full MAGAts mcar Saturday #59
We literally TOLD all magats that they'd be voting for Proj 2025 every single night at the 2024 DNC. ancianita Saturday #63
I'm in Florida mcar Saturday #67
Me, too, and yes we did. ancianita Saturday #70
🤞🤞🤞🤞 mcar Saturday #104
Four major effects of climate change... (his event is heartbreakng) NowsTheTime Saturday #68
Texas, are you living and learning yet ? republianmushroom Saturday #73
Will the GOPiggies in Congress do anything about it? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Saturday #74
Texas Officials are blaming trump for the loss of life due to these floods LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #77
Again, it doesn't matter and TX officials know it. They just want to lie that they're doing their job for the public, ancianita Saturday #88
Maybe Trump shouldn't have defunded the NWS. LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #82
Go figure orangecrush Saturday #91
the actual timeline of NWS warnings moonshinegnomie Saturday #94
Has Texas done anything, Old Crank Saturday #97
That's what you get when you vote for a person who cares only about himself mdbl Saturday #100
I hope we claw back every cent from the all the GOP limited tax cuts for the wealthy IbogaProject Saturday #102
Abbot is on TV blathering about how Trump loves Texas Picaro Saturday #105
Of course... This was Inevitable! Cha Saturday #107
The ideological dismantling of NOAA and NWS begins on page 674 of Project 2025 and is well underway. LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #108
Two dozen kids are still missing stollen Saturday #111
Heads to roll Fiddlelady11 Saturday #112
Local news reported Abbott signed a Deminpenn Saturday #115
F6ck that POS hot wheels!!!! wolfie001 Saturday #117
Texas is getting what they voted for, aren't they? MissouriDem47 Saturday #118
Trump is a mass murder damifino10 Saturday #119
DOGE is already costing lives bmichaelh Saturday #120
NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links) LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #124

twodogsbarking

(14,259 posts)
1. The water was very wet. DJT.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:37 AM
Saturday

The wettest water ever. Even water experts have never seen such wet water.

Justice matters.

(8,558 posts)
43. Sadly add these preventable deaths to the convicted idiot's record:
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:00 AM
Saturday

As in "Everything T**** Touches Dies"

MLWR

(384 posts)
2. THIS is what you all voted for.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:42 AM
Saturday

Don't blame me; I voted for the Black lady who was never going to do anything close to this.

Paladin

(30,937 posts)
16. Shall I pass your cheerful message on to my daughter's friends?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:18 AM
Saturday

The couple whose daughter was at that Hill Country summer camp, the daughter who is still missing and more-than-likely dead?

By the way, I'm one of 4.8 million Texans who voted for Kamala Harris for president. How fucking dare you use this unspeakable tragedy to trash the entire population of my state, as if we're all just a bunch of trump ball-lickers? Shame on you.

twodogsbarking

(14,259 posts)
99. I live about two miles from Accuweather. There are many stories. Peace. Happy 5th of July.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:05 PM
Saturday

For many working people it is the day off in between two days off. Working for decades I salute you all. Too much time in America is spent working to just exist. Seems unfair given the wealth that could benefit so many. Reagan was so far worse than the world will ever acknowledge.

murielm99

(32,109 posts)
31. I am so sorry.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:25 AM
Saturday

I understand, too. I live in Illinois, but we farm. We get painted with the same red brush as our MAGAT neighbors.

Paladin

(30,937 posts)
38. I probably ought to be able to handle it better. God knows I see this sort of thing on DU, way too often.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:48 AM
Saturday

But when that sort of ugly prejudice is coupled with dozens of missing-or-dead children, it's pretty hard to ignore. Sorry for your problems in Illinois; hang in there.

littlemissmartypants

(28,428 posts)
55. I'm so sorry.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:29 AM
Saturday

I understand. I'm a farmer in North Carolina and though many farmers voted for evil, I voted against it and all farmers are frequently blamed for our horrible predicament regardless.

Condolences to all of those affected by this tragedy.





❤️


"Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that."

~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Strength to Love, 1963.

efhmc

(15,623 posts)
66. I am a Dem Texas voter. Many of my now grown daughters 's friends went to that camp and their daughters probably
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:55 AM
Saturday

were there during this storm. I pray not.

LetMyPeopleVote

(165,808 posts)
84. One of my middle child's classmates used to go to Camp Mystic every summer
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:25 PM
Saturday

There are a number of families in Houston who are worried. Luckily my middle child's classmate's children are too young to go to camp Mystic.

I also voted for Kamala Harris and was a Clinton delegate to the 2016 National Convention

Mary Adeline

(2 posts)
113. Disagree
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:55 PM
Saturday

There was no intent to "trash the entire population of Texas," just to point out how the cuts to the NWS are probably responsible for the lack of better response. Trump said he would do this, and the majority of Texas voters voted for him.

Paladin

(30,937 posts)
114. I am well-aware of how Texas voted.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:07 PM
Saturday

I am also aware that a sizeable number of us voted against trump's sorry ass. That was the point I was trying to make, and I stand by my efforts to do so. It is a point worth making, time and again, because there is a longstanding effort here at DU to "trash the entire population of Texas," and I will continue to object to it.

DFW

(58,423 posts)
121. Please do!!
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 01:35 AM
Yesterday

I’m as tired of seeing “Tex-ass” as someone from Marblehead would be of seeing “M-ass-achusetts.”

Several years ago, my wife and I were in a train from Washington to New York. During an extended stop in Philadelphia, two really offensive racists with heavy Boston accents got on our car and started hurling racial epithets at the car’s black steward. These guys seemed slightly drunk and possibly violence-prone, with a “whatcha gonna doaboutit” swagger. The steward left the car and returned with two white cops who looked like they were passed over for the role of “The Incredible Hulk” for being over-qualified. The cops told the racist assholes to grab their stuff and accompany them off the train. Their feeble arguments got them nowhere. When they were gone, the steward casually announced, “they ain’t ridin’ today.” The rest of us in the car gave him a sustained round of applause.

Texas by no means has a monopoly on this kind of boor.

ananda

(32,488 posts)
52. Agree. I mean Texas officials complaining turns irony on its head completely.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:23 AM
Saturday

And the areas affected were all deep red also.

DENVERPOPS

(12,915 posts)
76. Abbott
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:58 PM
Saturday

can call Sarah-Huck-a-Pig, Governor of Arkansas? and they can cry on each other's shoulders...........Trump denied FEMA help to Arkansas after a bunch of terrible tornadoes, after Sarah had defended trump daily for years on TV..........Now it's Texas' turn despite what Texas/Abbott have done for Trump these past years........

It is a shame, that INNOCENT CHILDREN..... are subjected to the wrath of Trump/Republican's despicable actions/in-actions.......

regnaD kciN

(27,161 posts)
101. Because it's never been about "pro-life"...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:16 PM
Saturday

…but about scaring young women into “saving themselves for marriage.”

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,230 posts)
62. Feels good, doesn't it? Using dead kids to dunk on people who you think deserve dead kids.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:38 AM
Saturday

CrispyQ

(39,931 posts)
78. I post this map all the time but I'm guilty too, of red state/blue state thinking & speech.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:07 PM
Saturday
Land Doesn't Vote


Traditional maps


I love the Land Doesn't Vote map but the media prefers the bottom map & so does the GOP. It gives the appearance the country is mostly red when it's not.

BTW, these are from 2020. It pisses me off to no end that the Democratic Party doesn't update & distribute this map set after every election. They didn't put this map out either, morons. We're supposed to be the smart party but the repubs have beat our pants off in messaging & narrative.

Anyway, welcome to DU! Now you know why you got flamed a bit.

Diamond_Dog

(37,531 posts)
3. This should be top news story of the weekend.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:46 AM
Saturday

What say you, Texas republicans? Is this acceptable to you?

underpants

(191,280 posts)
4. Dancing on the balcony
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:47 AM
Saturday

However, Trump was seen dancing on the balcony of the White House last night celebrating the latest round of cuts in his budget bill that just became law so billionaires and corporations can have huge tax cuts. People are dying and more will die because of their recklessness, just like we saw during covid. And now millions won’t even have health insurance to deal with the consequences.


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Botany

(74,624 posts)
6. Fox News really is a cancer on America
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:58 AM
Saturday

Lying their asses off as “the female talent” shows off their legs.

underpants

(191,280 posts)
95. Yep. If you've never seen "Bombshell" I'd highly recommend it
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:12 PM
Saturday

Behind the scenes of Fox News at the beginning. It’s mostly about the sexual harassment but it shows some of the techniques Ailes (Nogn Lithgow) put in place. They were young communications majors who didn’t know how Fox would work out and they wanted careers. They’d be given copy based on and repeating lies innuendo spin etc and told to “just say ‘Some people are saying’ and you’ll be in the clear”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombshell_(2019_film)

llmart

(16,578 posts)
7. I think I'm going to barf...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:00 AM
Saturday

Let me preface my remarks with the fact that I've never watched an entire FAUX "news" program. Every once in awhile I inadvertently catch a clip like this one. So I watched it and am still sitting here with my jaw dropped after the "you can just see the warmth in their marriage". OMG!

No wonder they call his followers cult members. You'd have to be pretty damned indoctrinated by FAUX to believe that these two people have any warmth to them let alone with the rest of their family.

llmart

(16,578 posts)
9. P.S. to my post...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:02 AM
Saturday

His trademark "dance" is the dumbest damned thing I've ever seen.

Botany

(74,624 posts)
17. The two handed handy J as his feet are stuck in concrete dance
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:19 AM
Saturday

It is really embarrassing.

Botany

(74,624 posts)
86. Krasnov's mental illness doesn't let him see himself as the complete buffoon that he is.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:29 PM
Saturday

Any man who dresses like he does, wears orange paint, and has a hairstyle like he does and
looks into the mirror and thinks, “now there’s a good look” is bat shit crazy.

Justice matters.

(8,558 posts)
46. The convicted idiot said he has a good life...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 AM
Saturday

while kids die in Texas due to his abject cuts.

llmart

(16,578 posts)
79. Did he really say that?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:09 PM
Saturday

I'm not surprised since all he thinks about is himself. Hell, even if his own kids died he wouldn't feel anything.

Justice matters.

(8,558 posts)
116. He said that (and worse) after a question about how long detainees
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:41 PM
Saturday

would stay in cages at the concentration camp in FL...

The convicted idiot did not answer the question at all...

He just wanted to say he has a very good life, sort of.

It's always and forever only about himself and nobody else.

Bengus81

(8,972 posts)
28. That's why I skip a hell of a lot of MTN videos. Jesus,that guy is obsessed with playing FOX vids
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:09 AM
Saturday

We know their nut job Trump humpers Ben. We know they LIE at every turn and have since you were ten years old. Dems don't want to watch that shit...and I don't.

SCantiGOP

(14,527 posts)
45. I skip them all
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 AM
Saturday

Rarely watch videos, especially if they have capital letters, exclamation points, and BS like “Trump totally destroyed by ……”

electricmonk

(1,998 posts)
71. Same
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:36 PM
Saturday

I made a post about that crap months ago on Bluesky. I also hate that they all will start talking about the subject of the video than say, "but before we get to that I want to show you..." then there's 5-10 minutes of other crap. I know the YouTube algorithm rewards video of certain lengths more than others and the creators get more money if people are watching for longer but if I watch at all anymore I skip around to just the relevant part.

Back last fall Meidas Touch said they weren't going to show Trump anymore. I was like hell yeah finally a channel I'll be able to stomach. That unfortunately didn't last long. I pretty much just stick to the Damage Report now. John is usually pretty good about keeping his clips on topic. Wish he'd cut ties with TYT though and go independent.
Looking for the post to add here and realized it annoyed me enough to post about it twice either that or my memory is slipping and I had no idea I had already said something about it. Anyway here's one of them.

It's a couple weeks late but any chance we could get a New Year's resolution by progressive/leftist YouTube channels to honestly title their videos? Every one has words like COLLAPSE, SHOCKED, STUNNED, CATOSTROPHIC, BRUTAL, etc. in them and the video never lives up to the promise.

4amKent (@4amkent.bsky.social) 2025-01-20T06:06:50.007Z

CrispyQ

(39,931 posts)
80. If ever there was a project for AI, transcribing video would be a good one!
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:11 PM
Saturday

What I don't get is the vids have CC, so why is it so hard to get a transcript? ?????

sop

(15,030 posts)
60. The "I murdered six million Jews" dance...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:37 AM
Saturday

I hope I live long enough to dance during Trump's funeral.

llmart

(16,578 posts)
81. Me too.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:13 PM
Saturday

I'll dance, drink champagne, whoop it up, have a parade, and sing "Happy Days are Here Again".

Farmer-Rick

(11,841 posts)
37. The pattern continues
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:43 AM
Saturday

Remember when pedo Trump removed funding from pandemic preparations and then we had a pandemic?

So look carefully at all the disaster funding he's removing. It's coming to a place near you.

BidenRocks

(1,796 posts)
93. So much empathy.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:03 PM
Saturday

I can't handle any more.
Victims families deserve an Obama or Biden.
Instead we get blame and self-agrandizement.

I had a 2 day business trip to Houston some years back.
It flooded the 2nd day.
Everyone knows you don't build in a flood plain but Texas will do whatever. See also the power grid decisions.

It really is a whole other country. (Said their ads)

OMGWTF

(4,825 posts)
103. T💩p is jerking off two ghosts again I see.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:26 PM
Saturday

Do you realize that fascism has been codified into law? I guess every 250 years we have to rid ourselves of a fking king.

gab13by13

(28,715 posts)
5. There are going to be millions more of senseless, unnecessary deaths
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:49 AM
Saturday

caused because billionaires need more money.

Would Krasnov let the billionaires' tax cuts expire if he knew ahead of time those young girls could be saved?

Botany

(74,624 posts)
8. It doesn't matter if they kill people, ruin lives, and crash the economy because the vote is so rigged.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:02 AM
Saturday

We are way down the rabbit hole of Christo fascism.

GiqueCee

(2,471 posts)
10. No...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:07 AM
Saturday

... not a chance. NOTHING that doesn't directly and immediately benefit Trump matters to him in the slightest. If he's true to form, he won't even take the time to acknowledge their deaths.
In the words psychologists use to describe him, "Malignant Narcissist", malignant is a clinical term. A pejorative to be sure, but with clinical detachment. It's tunnel-vision selfishness on steroids and PCP, fueled by depraved indifference to the effects his actions have on others. In short, he couldn't care less.

Lovie777

(19,198 posts)
18. This...................
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:26 AM
Saturday

warning: more accurate weather forecast diminished because of shithole and the republican party greed for more tax cuts for the rich, FEMA now funding more concentration camps and not helping with the USA disasters, more illegal deportations, not limited to criminals but to innocent people/citizens, now they are after naturalized citizens with the same lie re: criminals (we know how that worked), the slow destruction of SS, Medicaid, Snap, etc. (reimbursed for tax cuts to the rich), bullshit tariffs, and now a police state (ICE) funded with more tax payer money which WE THE PEOPLE pays in taxes.

There are more defunding to education, child care, healthcare, et al.,

People losing their jobs.

A president who is suppose to be for all the USA, but hates majority of us.

the nelm

(109 posts)
20. Hell no. Don't forget, he's one of the club. Those billionaire tax cuts also directly benefit him.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:29 AM
Saturday

(Would it be a little karmic justice this hurricane season if Merde a Lago got flattened? [minus any casualties])

DBoon

(23,897 posts)
48. Also can't let people hear there might be something to human cause climate change
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:10 AM
Saturday

A well funded weather service might convince people that fossil fuel use is leading to disasters.

Diraven

(1,430 posts)
12. Sady, they'll just blame this on "big government"
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:12 AM
Saturday

And conclude that the weather agencies should be shut down completely. Knowing Texas.

travelingthrulife

(2,836 posts)
21. It will be blamed on 'the government' and we all know who builds big government...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:29 AM
Saturday

that's right! Democrats! It's their fault.

Lovie777

(19,198 posts)
24. President Biden's fault.............
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:46 AM
Saturday

but the magas have a new target for now, Mamdani, and therefore in their effed up world, it's his fault as well.

aeromanKC

(3,665 posts)
23. It was always going to be: Not IF, but WHEN
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:35 AM
Saturday

The carnage of blood on Trump's hand has only just began.

moonshinegnomie

(3,484 posts)
26. a flood watch was issued teh day before
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:06 AM
Saturday

then the NWS service issued a flood warning at 1:15 am
city officials didnt bother to send a warning for 4 hours

https://www.kxan.com/investigations/conflicting-officials-social-posts-leave-evacuation-delays-questions-in-kerr-county-flooding/

ill just not that kerr county is ultra maga territory

Mike 03

(18,528 posts)
47. Also, isn't 6" - 8" inches of rain quite a serious amount?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 AM
Saturday

The quote makes it sound like the official doesn't think that was much, and that much more fell. How much rain actually fell?

All I know is that if we saw a forecast telling us six to eight inches of rain were going to fall where I live, I'd be shitting bricks and packing up the car.

moonshinegnomie

(3,484 posts)
58. its a serious amount
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:32 AM
Saturday

especially on saturated ground. it sbeen raining on and off for several days. Im about 2 hours away from there. weve gotte about 5 inches so far this month and they just issued a flood warning for us for another 1-3 inches in the next few hours.

its not like this is unprecedented around here. weve been in austin for 15 years. weve had 3 storms i can remember that dropped over 10" in a few days. when we first moved here our realtor even joked that the weather here is drought interrupted by periods of flooding.



CrispyQ

(39,931 posts)
92. Ditto!!
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:48 PM
Saturday

We got 6" of rain during the month of September one year & it took two years to fix the trails that got flooded out & one trail got closed permanently. I can't imagine that much rain in a day or two.

Strelnikov_

(7,996 posts)
110. Yes it is
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:18 PM
Saturday

And 6 to 8 on already saturated ground is . . .

If NWS issued a forecast as such, this is on the locals, if anyone. Emergency management is a local function.

As you note, I would be making preparations if in a flood prone area. I know of State Park campgrounds that would be evacuating with a forecast like that.

Smelling locals trying to pass the buck, just like at Uvalde. Guess those cowboy hats are a shield from taking responsibility.

bucolic_frolic

(51,222 posts)
27. Reminscent of Nixon's DST debacle
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:08 AM
Saturday

Nixon was blamed, I suppose this will be a write-off ho-hum.

Ol Janx Spirit

(308 posts)
35. The bad weather is Biden's weather; the good weather is Trump's....
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:41 AM
Saturday


And the fact that most victims were attending a Christian girls' camp means...it was all part of some grand plan...I guess.

Same theme: everything bad is Satan; everything good is God. It's hard to argue with anyone entrenched in that logic.

It's polytheism, but don't try to tell them that....

For me it is just another extremely sad and possibly avoidable tragedy. I grieve for everyone involved.

ancianita

(40,907 posts)
41. Ya think TX officials' blaming or complaining matters to the felon? The only real talk the felon might care about is
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:56 AM
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when the TX AG files a lawsuit.

A vast swath of this country have suffered disaster in the felon's second term. We know he doesn't give two shits about Americans when weather catastrophes like tornadoes, wild fires, or floods hit.

The felon's message: No one's coming. Y'all are on your own.

The only help will be from fellow Americans in these agencies who send timely warnings to affected states. Their preventive efforts might lessen some deaths and search and rescue money and manpower.

To mitigate some of what NOAA's warning systems have mitigated, we'll have to depend on each other among federal and state help agencies to establish durable communications in the next three years. Or more. Heaven only knows for how long, really.

Grim Chieftain

(333 posts)
44. Yet Trump's carnage continues
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:05 AM
Saturday

and he is still in the Oval Office. What the hell does it take to remove a clear and present danger from the presidency?

ancianita

(40,907 posts)
61. Yes. If there were an answer for your question we'd know it by now.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:37 AM
Saturday

To your question about what it will take to remove him, you know that institutions of government (and even elections) are not working to remove him, so what entity is left? And if that entity removes him -- either an assassination or the US military --- who/what will then remove the rest of the dangerous henchmen system he's had in place. Moreover, who will remove the oligarchs who've paid for all this?

ancianita

(40,907 posts)
65. Well, then...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:49 AM
Saturday

you should know it's no good or help to call it terrifying. We can't let fears block our ability to think our way through this, and then out of it. We have to keep thinking ahead to what's coming and prepare to act with continuing
-- protests,
-- donating,
-- high midterm turnout,
-- investigations of midterm election fraud, and
-- helping our neighbors.

Feeling terrified or afraid stops all action. We have to stop scaring ourselves about the present and future, put feelings aside, grow up and join with others.
We have to act in solidarity.

Grim Chieftain

(333 posts)
69. Well that little tirade was unnecessary
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:28 PM
Saturday

I am a baby boomer who has been protesting, phone banking, holding and attending rallies, calling and writing representatives since the seventies. I've been a member of the ACLU for decades. My husband was a legislative recruiter for the Democratic party and also a Democrat mayor in a very red state. We organized our county's "get out the vote" for several of our candidates and have knocked on countless doors. As a professor I have incorporated the principles of freedom, democracy, inclusion, ethics and activism in all my teachings.

My comments above were those of frustration, nothing more.

ancianita

(40,907 posts)
72. It wasn't mean to be that, just an explanation.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:44 PM
Saturday

Sorry to offend, though I didn't mean to. As a fellow boomer I understand our frustration, and just wanted to point out that in the day-today, we can't let understandable negative emotions control us, is all.

COL Mustard

(7,476 posts)
50. "I voted for leopards to eat other people's kids...then the leopards ate MY kids!"
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:16 AM
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I'm saddened by the loss of innocent life and have empathy for the families. I have zero sympathy for the Trump voters who elected him and his reign of chaos. This is one consequence of what they voted for.

ETA: Give it time. They'll try to find a way to spin this back on Biden...if they haven't already started.

ananda

(32,488 posts)
51. Also, the areas in Texas that were affected are deep red.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:20 AM
Saturday

And of course, our entire state government is deep red.

So... I predict that nothing will change.

Oh.. and I just got a flash flood warning on my phone.

I guess it's coming to Austin now.

We'll see how that goes too.

txwhitedove

(4,132 posts)
57. I hate tRump, and agree the NWS and NOAA cuts are already proving disastrous. However, plenty
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:31 AM
Saturday

of thoughts to mull around for all. Texas Hill Country prone to flooding: "Flood Facts: From 1998 to 2000, floods in Texas have taken over 100 lives, displaced more than 50,000 people and cost over 7.5 billion dollars. Nationally, deaths from all natural disasters are declining – except for flash flooding.
Texas holds six of the top 12 world records for rainfall of short duration and has floodplain acreage the size of North Carolina. “Flash Flood Alley” is a one-hour film that follows the lives of five Texans who rebuild after the great Central Texas flood of 1998. Read about this important film, see very helpful documents, media releases and film clips: http://floodsafety.com/media/ffa/contents_index.htm"

Easy to online search. Historic flooding for over 100 years. I lived in rural Texas on south end of hill country, and got caught in one of those big rain run offs.

ancianita

(40,907 posts)
63. We literally TOLD all magats that they'd be voting for Proj 2025 every single night at the 2024 DNC.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:43 AM
Saturday

They didn't listen, and now they suffer for their ignorance. At least we Democrats know the cause of all this.
Blue states have been readying to mitigate weather catastrophes. So far, most of the damage has hit mostly maga states.

ancianita

(40,907 posts)
70. Me, too, and yes we did.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:29 PM
Saturday

We'll see if they vote accordingly in the midterms. Some hardcore states like FL and TX might not change, but others might.

NowsTheTime

(1,154 posts)
68. Four major effects of climate change... (his event is heartbreakng)
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:25 PM
Saturday
https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/water-cycle-climate-change

Changing climate means changing weather.

1) Climate warming is causing changes to weather in different regions of the world. In particular, it is causing more extreme weather events than we have seen in the past. These extreme weather events can have impacts on human health, limiting access to clean drinking water, food, and shelter and taxing people’s ability to cope with heat, drought or flood.

2) More rain and flooding: With more evaporation, there is more water in the air so storms can produce more intense rainfall events in some areas. This can cause flooding – a risk to the environment and human health.

3) More extreme drought: Warmer temperatures cause more evaporation, turning water into vapor in the air, and causing drought in some areas of the world. Places prone to drought are expected to become even drier over the next century. This is bad news for farmers who can expect fewer crops in these conditions.

4) Stronger hurricanes: Warmer ocean surface waters can intensify hurricanes and tropical storms, leading to more hazardous conditions as these storms make landfall. Scientists continue to research how climate change affects the number of these storms, but we know that the storms will be powerful and destructive in the future.

Heat waves: It is likely that heat waves have become more common in more areas of the world.

ancianita

(40,907 posts)
88. Again, it doesn't matter and TX officials know it. They just want to lie that they're doing their job for the public,
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:35 PM
Saturday

though they damn well know they're as responsible for these deaths as the felon that they & TX rethugs voted for.

throwin' this in from upthread ...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3491232

LetMyPeopleVote

(165,808 posts)
82. Maybe Trump shouldn't have defunded the NWS.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:21 PM
Saturday


Nim Kidd, chief of the Texas Division of Emergency Management, told a news conference on Friday night that the National Weather Service (NWS) forecast “did not predict the amount of rain that we saw.”

Maybe Trump shouldn't have defunded the NWS.

moonshinegnomie

(3,484 posts)
94. the actual timeline of NWS warnings
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:11 PM
Saturday

Early Week: NWS offices (San Antonio & Austin) flagged heavy rain potential by Sunday, extending alerts through Wednesday.

By Tuesday–Wednesday: Messaging mentioned Thursday flood risk.Thursday: Flood watches were issued. By late afternoon, a “Slight Risk” of excessive rain (WPC 2/4) was highlighted—which in hindsight may have underplayed the potential.

How Did the Weather Models Perform?HRRR: Wednesday night runs showed 7–9? bullseyes; by Thursday morning, projected 10–13?, and later up to 20? in key flash-flood zones.

HREF: Also signaled >10? potential early Thursday using probability-matched mean—providing solid foresight for forecasters

flash Flood Warnings kicked off just before midnight Friday as rain rates exceeded 3–4?/hr.Flash Flood Emergencies were declared around 4 AM Friday in Kerrville and near San Angelo as over 10? fell


in addition the NWS issued a flash flood warning at 1:15am
local officials didnt tell people to evacuate til 4-6 hours later
https://www.kxan.com/investigations/conflicting-officials-social-posts-leave-evacuation-delays-questions-in-kerr-county-flooding/

Old Crank

(5,863 posts)
97. Has Texas done anything,
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:39 PM
Saturday

Anything to prepare for this type of catastrophy?
This problem was known for months. Have they even had meetings to set up a plan to deal with the new environment?

mdbl

(6,836 posts)
100. That's what you get when you vote for a person who cares only about himself
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:06 PM
Saturday

and them vote for people who support his ambitions about only caring about himself.

IbogaProject

(4,597 posts)
102. I hope we claw back every cent from the all the GOP limited tax cuts for the wealthy
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:24 PM
Saturday

They brought this as they are so craven a greedy they'd rather not pay a little more to help others but instead are still trying to accumulate ever more than they can reasonably expect to use.

Picaro

(2,082 posts)
105. Abbot is on TV blathering about how Trump loves Texas
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:30 PM
Saturday

Kristi Noem (aka the puppy killer) is there with Abbot doing some epic ass covering.

LetMyPeopleVote

(165,808 posts)
108. The ideological dismantling of NOAA and NWS begins on page 674 of Project 2025 and is well underway.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:08 PM
Saturday

One of the provisions of Project 2025 was the dismantling of NOAA and NWS. We are seeing the results




stollen

(882 posts)
111. Two dozen kids are still missing
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:21 PM
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And these idiots are busy covering their tracks.

When it comes to gun massacres they say it is "too early" to get into a blaming discussion. Not when you have to CYOA, obviously.

Deminpenn

(16,871 posts)
115. Local news reported Abbott signed a
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:31 PM
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declaration for Federal disaster aid.

I suppose the irony was lost on him.

damifino10

(112 posts)
119. Trump is a mass murder
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:24 PM
Saturday

The body count in total is not being reported and/or attributed to this evil person. Covid was a huge
matter ignored by trumped his stupidity. Well, his isn't through. Many of the decisions he and his murdering administration have made guarantee that the body count is going to explode.
It appears that many of us are doomed.

bmichaelh

(859 posts)
120. DOGE is already costing lives
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:33 PM
Saturday

Some people in this nation are just greedy.

They do not realize that the one of the lives that they could save could be the next great scientist or next great inventor, etc.

There will be horrific costs in this country caused by DOGE.

There will also be some silent costs that media will not cover.

For example, I am a lymphoma survivor.
I was first diagnosed with an indolent lymphoma, called follicular lymphoma in 1990.
In 2002 and 2019, it returned and was transformed into a more aggressive lymphoma, called diffuse large B-cell lymphoma (DLBCL).
I went through 4 different therapies in 2019 over 2 years; all failed.
In 2021, a new therapy worked; the drug had been approved by the FDA the year before in 2020.
So cancer research saved my life; cancer research that Trump has cancelled.

LetMyPeopleVote

(165,808 posts)
124. NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links)
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 03:46 PM
Yesterday

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

🚨 NYT: As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

Gift link:

MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) 2025-07-06T04:33:59.776Z



https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/us/politics/texas-floods-warnings-vacancies.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UU8.Zjkx.evidtrUYt_ZY&smid=tw-share

Crucial positions at the local offices of the National Weather Service were unfilled as severe rainfall inundated parts of Central Texas on Friday morning, prompting some experts to question whether staffing shortages made it harder for the forecasting agency to coordinate with local emergency managers as floodwaters rose.....

The staffing shortages suggested a separate problem, those former officials said — the loss of experienced people who would typically have helped communicate with local authorities in the hours after flash flood warnings were issued overnight.

The shortages are among the factors likely to be scrutinized as the death toll climbs from the floods. Separate questions have emerged about the preparedness of local communities, including Kerr County’s apparent lack of a local flood warning system. The county, roughly 50 miles northwest of San Antonio, is where many of the deaths occurred......

The National Weather Service’s San Angelo office, which is responsible for some of the areas hit hardest by Friday’s flooding, was missing a senior hydrologist, staff forecaster and meteorologist in charge, according to Tom Fahy, the legislative director for the National Weather Service Employees Organization, the union that represents Weather Service workers.

The Weather Service’s nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning coordination meteorologist and science officer, Mr. Fahy said. Staff members in those positions are meant to work with local emergency managers to plan for floods, including when and how to warn local residents and help them evacuate.

That office’s warning coordination meteorologist left on April 30, after taking the early retirement package the Trump administration used to reduce the number of federal employees, according to a person with knowledge of his departure......

John Sokich, who until January was director of congressional affairs for the National Weather Service, said those unfilled positions made it harder to coordinate with local officials because each Weather Service office works as a team. “Reduced staffing puts that in jeopardy,” he said......

An equally important question, he added, was how the Weather Service was coordinating with local emergency managers to act on those warnings as they came in.

“You have to have a response mechanism that involves local officials,” Dr. Uccellini said. “It involves a relationship with the emergency management community, at every level.”

But that requires having staff members in those positions, he said......

Typically, Mr. Sokich said, the Weather Service will send an official to meet regularly with local emergency managers for what are called “tabletop operations” — planning ahead of time for what to do in case of a flash flood or other major weather disaster.

But the Trump administration’s pursuit of fewer staff members means remaining employees have less time to spend coordinating with local officials, he said.

I have been through a number of hurricanes/storms including Ike, Allison, Harvey and lately Berly. There were weather service people coordinating with local officials during all of these storms. Here the DOGE and trump cuts meant that the weather service did not have the staff available to coordinate with the local officials.
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