Epstein's ex, Ghislaine Maxwell, doesn't want grand jury transcripts released

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: AP

NEW YORK (AP) — Jeffrey Epstein 's former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, wants to keep grand jury records secret in the sex trafficking case that sent her to prison, her lawyers said Tuesday as prosecutors continued urging a court to release some of those records in the criminal case-turned-political fireball.

Maxwell hasn't seen the material herself, her attorneys said — the grand jury process is conducted behind closed doors. But she opposes unsealing what her lawyers described as potentially “hearsay-laden” transcripts of grand jury testimony, which was given in secret and without her lawyers there to challenge it.

“Whatever interest the public may have in Epstein, that interest cannot justify a broad intrusion into grand jury secrecy in a case where the defendant is alive, her legal options are viable and her due process rights remain,” attorneys David O. Markus and Melissa Madrigal wrote.

Prosecutors declined to comment.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epsteins-ex-ghislaine-maxwell-doesnt-184615986.html

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

1. TDB!!

[bluestarone]

2. Her attorney says she hasn't seen it. Hell,

She doesn't have to see. SHE LIVED IT!!

[azureblue]

46. Virginia Giuffre's Deposition

Virginia states it was Maxwell who recruited her from Mar-a-largo in 2000 (possibly 1999). It was Maxwell who trained her. Virginia thought Maxwell was the leader. She states Epstein and Maxwell were glued at the hips, abused girls together, and Maxwell abused girls on a daily basis. It states Maxwell is a liar. She also states the plane logs are incomplete as the only cover one plane (Epstein I believe had three) Ghislaine had a helicopter given to her by Epstein that she used to fly people to the island.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7010864-Virginia-Giuffre-Maxwell-Deposition/
Also
a Youtube video of "Katie Johnson's testimony, and a link to the lawsuit she filed --

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf


Maxwell is in the thick of it, and a pedo too..

[RockRaven]

3. Most people are ignorant of the evidence and testimony which convicted her,

because they didn't actually pay attention to the trial on a granular level, and the grand jury testimony is more of the same.

If the grand jury testimony is made public, her monstrous actions will get a new news cycle (or several), and the resulting media furor will make it costlier for The Dotard to pardon her -- and he only cares about what it costs/benefits himself.

[moniss]

9. One victim I heard interviewed said

Maxwell wasn't just sex trafficking she was also taking part in the sexual acts.

[Karasu]

12. I've seen that mentioned in several anonymous accounts over the years.

[gab13by13]

26. It wasn't anonymous

[Karasu]

48. I stand corrected. But if that's the case, we really ought to be bringing it up more when Republicans try to paint her

as some kind of victim.

[Irish_Dem]

28. Some of the victims have spoken out in public that Maxwell was also a rapist along with Epstein.

[Wiz Imp]

36. True. But that would not be part of the grand jury testimony

No victims testified before the grand jury. 4 victims did testify in the criminal trial.

[ClaudetteCC]

4. stupid question

but how is her name pronounced?
I have zero patience for TV infotainment.

[pfitz59]

11. the S is silent

Ghi- laine

[Random Boomer]

18. Also, more like Ghee-laine n/t

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Super Predator

Alternative: Child Trafficker

[Haggard Celine]

39. I saw an interview with her brother years ago and

he pronounced it "Gill-un." If anyone knows how to say it, he should.

[ClaudetteCC]

44. G as in Go, or G as in Gym?

[Haggard Celine]

45. Go

[wcmagumba]

5. I say, eff you, disgusting sex pedo trafficking convicted criminal, just enjoy your comfy day camp "prison" for now...

With an El Trumpo pardon on the way...the public will be lucky to see any of this info with the orange buttocks scrambling to clean it and hide whatever is left...you just know the dudes name and evidence of crimes is all over that stuff...we the people will never see any of it...dammit...

[Walleye]

54. He will probably pardon her, let her out and give her Secret Service protection

[underpants]

6. A. No information is good for her. B. Grand Jury info is structured for a result.

I’ve learned B over the years.

Darren Wilson beating the rap for murdering Michael Brown made that very clear.

[moniss]

7. I get the feeling that DOJ and her lawyers are running

a "good cop, bad cop" sort of scenario and then Maxwell will claim that all of this has "prejudiced" her appeal and then Crumb The 1st will come in with his "I had no choice but to pardon/commute because all of the turmoil was unfair to her appeal."

[Botany]

8. I couldn't sleep so I watched the Netflix biography on her. She allegedly would fondle a girls breasts or groin area ..

.. as Epstein was raping them and she actively forced girls working in Epstein’s sex trafficking network (Trump & Putin’s too)
to recruit other girls too. Both her testimony and or the grand jury’s testimony are just planned distractions from Trump’s paying
money to rape girls and his part in an international sex trafficking ring.

[mdbl]

10. Does anyone give a shit what Ghislaine Maxwell wants?

Why don't we just ask every fucking criminal in prison what they want.

[Karasu]

13. The fascists running the country sure as fuck do.

[Irish_Dem]

30. Yep. Vicious criminals call all the shots now.

Good people are thrown under the bus.

[customerserviceguy]

14. Whatever happens with this

I just hope that it is not too difficult for the victims to bear. I don't give a shit what Maxwell wants, but I do care about these women and their feelings.

[Irish_Dem]

31. The victims may want justice so might be willing to go through it all again.

[customerserviceguy]

47. All I know

is that I wouldn't want the worst thing that happened to me to lead off the news every night. Some may want justice, others may want healing in a quiet way. In any case, the three ring circus that this has become has got to be trying for at least a few of them.

[Irish_Dem]

50. It's an individual thing.

Some can handle the trial and publicity.
Some cannot.

[customerserviceguy]

51. All I'm hoping

is that our side keeps respect for the victims in mind. I have absolutely no such hope for the Rethuglicans, but at least I want our side to treat the victims with as much dignity as is humanly possible.

[Irish_Dem]

53. Most women know that in a rape trial, they are the ones on trial, not the rapist.

Dignity and respect for the female victim is not usually important in the
American justice system.

Especially now when sexual assault is the norm thanks to Trump and his pals.

[customerserviceguy]

56. This isn't an ordinary rape trial

Those are traumatic enough, but they very rarely become national news, especially being reported on every single day. While we may not be able to repair the criminal justice system and the way that it treats victims, I hope that in the clamor for "dirt" on this, that our side figures out when to respect the privacy of the victims.

[Irish_Dem]

58. I hope you are right.

But every rape trial is painful for the victim.
Even if it is just city or state publicity.

[Baitball Blogger]

15. She's just concerned that the information in the Grand Jury report will

contradict the testimony she plans to give them.

[Karasu]

17. Bingo.

[Wiz Imp]

42. There was no direct testimony from anyone involved with Maxwell and Epstein before the grand jury

The only witnesses were an FBI agent and an NYCPD Detective.

[Sneederbunk]

16. Who couldn't see this coming.

Maxwell has a legal right to not have the grand jury transcripts released so long as she has an appeal pending. TSF and his cracked legal team knew this. Their offer to release was hollow and just a delaying distraction.

[FakeNoose]

19. I thought the issue was with Epstein's documents

Epstein's documents, videos, photos and other records that were taken from his mansions after he was arrested (or after he died.) I don't know why Maxwell's Grand Jury testimony should be released....

[Luciferous]

20. I don't really give a fuck what she wants

[live love laugh]

21. Why is another felon even being asked such a question?

[Irish_Dem]

32. Because criminals now have all the rights. Good people have none.

[Layzeebeaver]

22. from a procedural perspective... there may be a small grain of truth...

I'm not a lawyer, but suspect that evidence and discovery does in fact need to follow established rules.

let's see how it all "pans out" (sorry for the mining meme).

[tavernier]

35. Established rules went out the window

when Rump walked through the door. Just look at the bullshit his judges, including the SCOTUS, have gotten away with since his arrival. A felon walks ii to our White House, steals boxes and boxes of classified documents, squirrels them in his private home, suddenly has close happy friendships with leaders of countries who salivate over seeing the contents of these files and are more than happy to swap with gold or fancy planes. Or kompramat. And the judges and the politicians bend over themselves to keep him happy. So I’m guessing the kompramat involved lots and lots of them as well.

[returnee]

43. Some questions

I was wondering about the merit of her filing. Then you said there are rules. If so, why the need to file anything?
Also, aren’t the trial transcripts public? Wouldn’t that tell us a lot about her criminal activity? Do we want to see the grand jury testimony to find out about others’ involvement? Or for other reasons?

[Cheezoholic]

23. Whatever keeps MAGA squirming lol n/t

[sinkingfeeling]

24. Who cares what she wants?

[twodogsbarking]

25. Ted Bundy would be jealous.

[UpInArms]

27. That's rich

The convicted sexual predator wants due process…

While all others can be denied

[JohnnyRingo]

33. I bet she has two different stories. One she gave to the grand jury...

that names Trump as a frequent flyer, and the secret account she supplied to Trump's Deputy US Atty that said the Clintons were in on it but never Trump.

[Wiz Imp]

37. Maxwell did not testify before the grand jury.

[Brainfodder]

34. No death penalty for groomer witches huh? The horrible person wants what? Does she have standing for this request?

I hope she gets all the cancers right after her testimony and then run over by a train twice.

[Abstractartist]

38. Release them

Since they are under concealment, and she doesn’t want them released, that’s a tell. There is stuff in there that will be very bad for everyone listed. If democrats are in there, so be it…. They will suffer as anyone of them should.

[Wiz Imp]

41. There would be nothing in the grand jury transcripts implicating anyone besides Epstein & Maxwell.

The only testimony came from 2 law enforcement officials and the whole purpose of grand jury testimony is to get an indictment against the person charged. There would be no reason to talk about people other than Epstein & Maxwell.

[Wiz Imp]

40. To be clear, there was no victim testimony before the grand jury. Nor did Maxwell herself testify.

Only 2 witnesses testified before Maxwell's grand jury. An FBI agent & a NYCPD Detective.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/grand-juries-that-indicted-epstein-and-maxwell-did-not-hear-directly-from-victims-justice-department-tells-judge#:~:text=The%20federal%20grand%20juries%20that%20indicted%20Jeffrey,unseal%20transcripts%20of%20the%20usually%20secret%20proceedings.

The Epstein grand jury heard from just one witness, an FBI agent, when it met in June and July 2019, the government disclosed. The Maxwell grand jury heard from the same FBI agent and a New York Police Department detective when it met in June and July 2020 and March 2021, according to the submission.

It isn’t unusual for law enforcement officials to be the only witnesses before grand juries, which have a limited role and don’t need to decide whether a person is guilty of a crime.

[sdfernando]

49. More likely she doesn't want her current narrative that orangepedo didn't do anything improper around her

to be totally outed as a huge lie.

"her legal options are viable and her due process rights remain"

Due process????? How quaint!

[GreenWave]

52. Trump has a made up hearsay government, so release them and let them...

LET THEM GO, LET THEM GO, LET THEM GO!

[maxsolomon]

55. "Ex"? "Former"?

Only because he's dead.

[Scalded Nun]

57. Gee, if this were a Democrat's GJ transcripts, most of the elected GOP would have illegally released them

If the DOJ/AG didn't do it first.