Bill To Let Texans Sue Out-of-state Abortion Pill Providers Heads To Governor

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Huff Post/AP

Sep 3, 2025, 09:59 PM EDT


AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A measure that would allow Texas residents to sue out-of-state abortion pill providers advanced to the desk of Gov. Greg Abbott Wednesday, setting the state up to be the first to try to crack down on the most common abortion method.

Supporters say it’s a key tool to enforce the state’s abortion ban, protecting women and fetuses.

Opponents see it not only as another way to rein in abortion but as an effort to intimidate abortion providers outside Texas who are complying with the laws in their states — and to encourage a form of vigilantism.

If the measure becomes law, it’s nearly certain to spark legal challenges from abortion rights supporters.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/abortion-texas-out-of-state_n_68b8e228e4b041ed82bd20bb

[Lovie777]

1. What bullshit....

another lawsuit.

[JustAnotherGen]

3. I think they

don't realize how much some of us in the Northeast hate their guts and will do anything to flip the bird at them.

[walkingman]

4. FYI - there are a lot of us Texans that feel the same way.

It is like living in a mental ward in the summer with the heat on. The Texas State government is sick.

[JustAnotherGen]

5. Rest assured

We see what they are doing to you guys. Pure fucking evil.

[electric_blue68]

11. I know. I have a Liberal Texan friend of decades.

She told us on FB when Biden won that she'd dance outside but she might get shot.

[JustAnotherGen]

2. They can go fuck themselves

We will do whatever the hell we want in NJ. Governor Hot Wheels can fuck all the way off.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. This isn't going to be solved

until someone invents a treatment based on mesquite.

[LeftInTX]

28. That would be awesome!

I wonder if it's possible?

[bucolic_frolic]

30. Idle researchers have idle time

I hear a lot of them are seeking employment.

[Diamond_Dog]

7. I thought you had to have legal "standing" to bring a lawsuit.

What suffering has any average Texas resident endured besides having their extremist misogynistic beliefs challenged? A court should throw this out!

[Redleg]

10. Good point. I am not a lawyer but I have thought about this.

To me it seems akin to Texas offering a bounty to people who rat out a woman who might have had an abortion.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

8. What this says is..NO WOMAN IS SAFE IN TEXAS.

Are lawmakers in Texas also going to BAN Birth Control methods as well? "We can't have them Texas women preventing pregnancy, now can we?"

Pregnancies can and do go wrong. They would rather women die from a pregnancy gone wrong rather than get care when they do.

[Nigrum Cattus]

9. Dumb as rocks -

This will only drive the supply of pills underground.
They will be smuggled in from Canada & Mexico.
The religious extremists are truly a negative influence
on society.

[ananda]

12. In GOP doublespeak, "protecting" means "further endangering"...

women and fetuses.

[GB_RN]

13. No Way This SHOULD Stick.

No state can interfere with another in this manner. But I don’t trust the Corrupt 6 to actually follow the Constitution anymore.

[moonshinegnomie]

14. so i guess a state like california can pass a law

protecting abortion pill providors in the state from lawsuits in the same way. make it so suing a california resident for providing an abortion pill means a claifornia resident can sue the person suing damages. same idea....

[BumRushDaShow]

15. NY has such laws dubbed "Shield" laws

Last edited Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Shield Law protections

NY went through this nonsense with TX the past year -

NY court blocks Texas from punishing abortion telehealth doctor, testing state shield law (Mar. 2025)

Ulster County clerk rejects Texas’ second attempt to file abortion judgment (Jul. 2025)

State Shield Laws: Protections for Abortion and Gender-Affirming Care Providers (has a list of states with this protection and to what degree)

22 states + D.C. have laws against out-of-state prosecutions
16 states + D.C. have laws against civil liability

[moonshinegnomie]

17. id go much further

NY law says they wont co-operate with othe states on ant abortion laws. Id allow people in NY or other states to sue people in texas.

IE doctor smith in texas perscribes an abortion pill to a texas woman whchi then gets the pill from pharmacy x

joe texas decides to sue both the doctor and the pharmacy under the new texas law.

my idea would allow any resident of NY to file a lawsuit in NY against joe texas. same idea as the texas law.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. I think the reality of doing that is

(with the slow courts), based on what Paxton did during the 2020 election suing other states because he didn't like how they ran their elections - the courts (including the SCOTUS) threw the suits out.

In essence, a state doesn't have that kind of authority over how another state handles its affairs.

Supreme Court rejects Republican attack on Biden victory


By NOMAAN MERCHANT, ALANNA DURKIN RICHER and MARK SHERMAN
Published 9:13 AM EDT, December 12, 2020

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has rejected a lawsuit backed by President Donald Trump to overturn Joe Biden’s election victory, ending a desperate attempt to get legal issues rejected by state and federal judges before the nation’s highest court and subvert the will of voters.

(snip)

Friday’s order marked the second time this week that the court had rebuffed Republican requests that it get involved in the 2020 election outcome and reject the voters’ choice, as expressed in an election regarded by both Republican and Democratic officials as free and fair. The justices turned away an appeal from Pennsylvania Republicans on Tuesday. On Monday, the Electoral College meets to formally elect Biden as the next president.

Trump had called the lawsuit filed by Texas against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin “the big one” that would end with the Supreme Court undoing Biden’s substantial Electoral College majority and allowing Trump to serve another four years in the White House.

In a brief order, the court said Texas does not have the legal right to sue those states because it “has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections.”

(snip)

Whenever you DO see states "cooperate", they have MOUs (Memorandums of Understanding) and other agreements (like for extradition) in place to authorize it.

I do get what you are saying - "What's good for the goose is good for the gander".

[moonshinegnomie]

22. except it wouldnt be the state actually doing it

all it would be is the state saying person x has standing to sue in a NY court for damages. no different than the texas law giving a texas resident standing to sue.

[BumRushDaShow]

23. TX has that "Heartbeat" ( "bounty" ) law for individuals to sue providers in other states

and some states sued TX in advance for the law being unconstitutional, but those suits were thrown out, apparently because "no one had used the law yet" or some such wording.

However there was one suit that was filed by someone who did try to use it against a TX doctor and it was thrown out because they could not show it harmed them (in this case, the TX courts threw it out) -

Texas Court Throws Out Case Against Doctor Who Violated Abortion Ban

In any case, the shield laws supposedly preclude "liability" suits from out of state plaintiffs for specific reproductive rights issues, along with gender-affirming care (at least some of the state laws). I can't see how a state can dictate who has standing in another state.

[moonshinegnomie]

25. once again those were texas courts

in my example it would be a case filed in NY.. against a texas defendent. no different then a person in texas filing a texas lawsuit against a ny doctor.

[BumRushDaShow]

26. I think as analogous situation

some Sandy Hook families sued Alex Jones in a CT court, despite Jones residing in TX (others sued him directly in a TX court) -

Connecticut Supreme Court declines to hear Alex Jones’ appeal of $1B Sandy Hook verdict

That was obviously a civil suit though.

I think most lawyers want to keep their licenses by avoiding the idiocy that TX loons like Paxton, participates in continually.

[LeftInTX]

29. The judge who threw out the case is a Democrat.

It's hit or miss. I think the plaintiff can file in any state court, but they filed in San Antonio where currently every judge is a Democrat.

If they would have filed in any of the five surrounding suburban counties the judge probably would not have tossed the case. I don't know the law particular , but Dr Braid practiced in SA. I swear you can file in any state court.

[CTyankee]

16. "Papers please"

border guards stopping cars with young women in them and an anti-choice state license plate...

[bluestarone]

19. Look out Texas Mail persons. You;re

Next in line to get prison time!! (If these monsters get their way)

[Skittles]

20. whatever happened to STATES RIGHTS

oh yeah, that is just more repuke bullshit

[ffr]

21. Meanwhile GOP blessed JFK Jr. under the tRump administration have basically killed children with measles.

As Measles Exploded, Officials in Texas Looked to CDC Scientists. Under Trump, No One Answered.
https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/texas-measles-outbreak-cdc-vaccines-rfk-trump/

Texas announces second death in measles outbreak
https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/texas-announces-second-death-measles-outbreak
The school-aged child who tested positive for measles was hospitalized in Lubbock and passed away on Thursday from what the child’s doctors described as measles pulmonary failure. The child was not vaccinated and had no reported underlying conditions.

[Rhiannon12866]

27. You mean RFK Jr.

[NickB79]

24. It also allows lawsuits against the web services used to order the pills

Let's see these dumb fucks try to sue Google.