Trump DOJ is looking at ways to ban transgender Americans from owning guns, sources say

[highplainsdem]

Source: CNN

In the wake of the Minneapolis Catholic church shooting, senior Justice Department officials are weighing proposals to limit transgender people’s right to possess firearms, according to two officials familiar with the internal discussions.

The talks, described as preliminary in nature, appear to build on an idea that has gained some currency in conservative media since the Minneapolis shooting that killed two children and injured 21, most of them children, at Annunciation Catholic Church, an attack that police say was carried out by a 23-year-old transgender woman.

Such a move would represent a dramatic escalation of the Trump administration’s fight against the rights of transgender Americans.

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But Justice Department leadership is seriously considering whether it can use its rulemaking authority to follow on to Trump’s determination to bar military service by transgender people and declare that people who are transgender are mentally ill and can lose their Second Amendment rights to possess firearms, according to one Justice official.

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Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/04/politics/transgender-firearms-justice-department-second-amendment

[Pachamama]

1. WTF

2nd amendment only for those they deem worthy?

[Skittles]

10. they want to blame mass shootings on trans folk, immigrants, etc

doesn't matter that most mass shootings are done by homegrown straight white males, cannot touch THEM

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. It will be illegal to be a Trans or Gay person in this country very soon probably

Remember, RFK Junior believes vaccines are worse than the illnesses they cure so he will get rid of all vaccines and remember, the people pushing the buttons of the piece of shit hate Gay people and think that they are abnormal spawns of Satan.

But yeah you know some just couldn’t support Hillary or Kamala

[AZJonnie]

3. If they can do this with trans people, they could do it with gays, blacks, liberals, whomever they want

All those cases involve just making up some bullshit reason to do it. I'd think even most wingnuts aren't dumb enough to go along with this, but they've certainly surprised me with their stupidity and irrational hatred in the past, many times.

[LeftInTX]

30. Name and gender changes are fairly easy to track on FBI background checks. The other stuff isn't.

So, if someone has changed their name and gender in the past, it should show up on the background check.

That's how they are able to force trans women into male prisons.

[TexasBushwhacker]

4. Maybe they should just ban MEN from owning them

The vast majority of mass and spree killers are MEN!

[C_U_L8R]

5. How about banning Trump voters from owning weapons?

Hey magats, see how this works? Keep playing stupid games.

[Bayard]

6. I would like to see stats on rampaging transgender people,

Compared to rampaging MAGAts with guns.

[bucolic_frolic]

7. Where's the 2A crowd? Trump is coming for your guns. /nt

[The Mouth]

27. The solution is the absolute right of any citizen

to own or carry anything, anywhere, regardless of any state or local laws.

[TommyT139]

8. And it's a short step to involuntary commitment.

The groundwork has already been laid.

[Nigrum Cattus]

17. They are doing that now with homeless

Even the law that was passed here in Cali the gov
and commit homeless people to "treatment" if
they refuse, because the gov knows everything

[TommyT139]

24. Yep

Which followed fast on the Supreme Court decision. Every side is taking advantage of that.

[hildegaard28]

9. If that's

The way they want to go, when Democrats take everything back the we can declare MAGAts to be mentally ill and take away their guns. And we can actually prove that they are mentally ill. There’s plenty of video evidence of MAGAts acting crazy in public.

[Chasstev365]

11. But not angry young Incel men...

[Redleg]

15. Cuz they're real 'Mericans.

They are trying to stoke another panic over transgender people. It makes them feel tough and manly to punch the most vulnerable among us.

[Oneironaut]

12. The purpose is to allow easier mass arrests and detention.

Unarmed people cannot fight back, and, it is one less thing for agents to worry about when rounding trans people up for mass detention.

[orangecrush]

29. Yup

[Redleg]

13. They will claim that it is a mental illness

Mark my words.

[hamsterjill]

22. Yep.

And it's really their Christian Nationalists beliefs. They don't care how they get there; they just want to get there. They will call it whatever they need to call it in order to get it done.

As someone mentioned upthread, next it will be another group. Women, etc.

[IronLionZion]

14. Which does nothing for all the other people who do mass shootings

because the problem with mass shootings are not who is doing the shooting. It's the guns.

[Staph]

16. Per CNN, in the last decade, there have been 5000 mass shootings.

Four of those were by transgender individuals. I suspect that at least 90% were white males. Why don't we ban them from having guns?

[moonshinegnomie]

18. voting for trump is a mental disorder

they should be banned from owning guns

[Martin68]

19. Dump better be careful. Any ban on gun ownership could be widened. Could be a path to real gun regulation.

[Vinca]

20. How about if the transgender person indicates she'll return to being a full-time, dyed-in-the-wood male?

Do they get to keep their AKs then? Man, woman, trans - does it really matter who's pulling the trigger? We need gun control, not trans control.

[TommyT139]

26. Looking at a few cases

...which are unrelated to firearms: some trans people looking to get identity documents (passports, drivers licenses) in their sex assigned at birth -- a number of those folks are in limbo. They are unable to switch back.

Now maybe if the regime starts to enact a program of not just forced de-transition (medically, which is already happening), but re-education -- they would need to have some indication of "repentance" or whatever. That's a scary line of thought, so I won't go further down that path on an open thread.

But even then, I could still see someone being denied access to enjoyment of their second amendment rights.

[Karasu]

21. This fascist obsession with less than 1% of the population is beyond neurotic. If they do this, it will set the

precedent for them to ban any group they don't fucking like from owning anything they don't want them to. Which is the vast majority of this country.

Where are all those 2nd Amendment absolutists at now?

[gay texan]

28. Fantastic question

I knew this shit was coming

[muriel_volestrangler]

25. Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union

There was systematic political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union,[1] based on the interpretation of political opposition or dissent as a psychiatric problem.[2] It was called "psychopathological mechanisms" of dissent.[3]

During the leadership of General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev, psychiatry was used to disable and remove from society political opponents (Soviet dissidents) who openly expressed beliefs that contradicted the official dogma.[4][5] The term "philosophical intoxication", for instance, was widely applied to the mental disorders diagnosed when people disagreed with the country's Communist leaders and, by referring to the writings of the Founding Fathers of Marxism–Leninism—Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, and Vladimir Lenin—made them the target of criticism.[6] Another common pseudo-diagnosis was "sluggish schizophrenia".

Article 58-10 of the Stalin-era Criminal Code, "Anti-Soviet agitation", was to a considerable degree preserved in the new 1958 Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic Criminal Code as Article 70 "Anti-Soviet agitation and propaganda". In 1967, a weaker law, Article 190-1 "Dissemination of fabrications known to be false, which defame the Soviet political and social system", was added to the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic Criminal Code. These laws were frequently applied in conjunction with the system of diagnosis for mental illness, developed by academician Andrei Snezhnevsky. Together, they established a framework within which non-standard beliefs could easily be defined as a criminal offence and the basis, subsequently, for a psychiatric diagnosis.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union

[Norrrm]

31. Precedent...... First, they came for:::