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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:12 PM Dec 2012

CBSNews: JUST IN: House Will Not Vote Tonight; Nation Will Go Over Fiscal Cliff at Midnight

Source: CBS News / Raw Story

@CBSNews: JUST IN: House will not vote tonight; nation will go over fiscal cliff at midnight

@RyanRuggiero: Breaking: CNBC's Harwood: No Vote in the House Tonight -- U.S. Will Go Over the Fiscal Cliff

Update: No settlement on ‘fiscal cliff’ as House declines a vote

By Arturo Garcia
Monday, December 31, 2012 15:26 EST

The Washington Post reported that the House of Representatives will not hold any votes Monday night, ensuring that the country will enter what lawmakers from both major parties have called the “fiscal cliff.”

The House declined to take action citing a lack of action from the Republican-controlled Senate, the newspaper reported.

This contradicts both an earlier report by Politico via Twitter that Vice-President Joe Biden and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Vice President Joe Biden had reached an agreement on Monday preventing the various tax increases and spending cuts they had hoped to avoid amid a public squabble.

NBC News had also reported that tax rates will increase for individuals making more than $400,000 a year, and on households making at least a combined $450,000 per year, citing “Republican sources.”


Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/31/report-biden-and-mcconnell-agree-to-settlement-preventing-fiscal-cliff

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CBSNews: JUST IN: House Will Not Vote Tonight; Nation Will Go Over Fiscal Cliff at Midnight (Original Post) Hissyspit Dec 2012 OP
so this is the choice of New year snacks - open one at midnight! NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #1
House unlikely to vote on any deal until after cliff deadline(update 4:03) cal04 Dec 2012 #2
The House is full of petulant children Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #3
Boehner's getting fitted for a prosthetic nose? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2012 #4
And the stock market, in fear, goes UP 2%. denverbill Dec 2012 #5
ain't it the truth bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #13
Personally, I'm really surprised the market was up. It had every reason to go down. denverbill Dec 2012 #35
The house repubs are idiots Buzz505 Dec 2012 #6
really no surprise here..... chillfactor Dec 2012 #7
Dysfunctional is the nice way to put it. Hissyspit Dec 2012 #8
BANZI!!!! TEABAGGERS COMMIT SEPPUKU!!! Katashi_itto Dec 2012 #9
There will not be a vote tonight mimi85 Dec 2012 #10
As much as it pains me to think Arkana Dec 2012 #11
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! frylock Dec 2012 #12
and tomorrow, dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #14
"Republican-controlled Senate"..."Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell" Ash_F Dec 2012 #15
I thought the same thing! Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #21
Freudian perhaps? Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #27
Wow there was a coup and we missed it? Liberalynn Dec 2012 #29
All the real reporters are getting drunk nobodyspecial Dec 2012 #33
That is Soooo ridiculous .. these people are not journalists .. they're shit. YOHABLO Dec 2012 #37
+1000 Blue_Tires Dec 2012 #38
Started drinking early? Yo_Mama Dec 2012 #40
Good. Go over the cliff and then drop the tax rate increase threshold to SWTORFanatic Dec 2012 #16
Exactly indypaul Dec 2012 #18
agreed Liberalynn Dec 2012 #30
how about "jimmy cliff" ? madrchsod Dec 2012 #17
How about Madness dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #19
The Fiscal Cliffs daleo Dec 2012 #24
My this is some crappy reporting. blackspade Dec 2012 #20
A pay raise and great parties tonight. chelsea0011 Dec 2012 #22
Manufactured panic. TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #23
Keep your hands and arms inside the country at all times. Kablooie Dec 2012 #25
And the world didn't end......again!!!!! LongTomH Dec 2012 #26
So does this mean all the 'automatic' provisions of the laws they previously passed regarding this Purveyor Dec 2012 #28
apparently the drop dead date is not really a drop dead date. DCBob Dec 2012 #32
Apparently the House GOPers want to delay the vote until after the deadline.. why? DCBob Dec 2012 #31
This is not a huge deal.. sendero Dec 2012 #34
and away we gooooooooo! shanti Dec 2012 #36
Giddy Up! triplepoint Dec 2012 #39
MSNBC just announced Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #41
Oh what a surprise! My, this is so unexpected. Kablooie Dec 2012 #42

cal04

(41,505 posts)
2. House unlikely to vote on any deal until after cliff deadline(update 4:03)
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:14 PM
Dec 2012

UPDATE 4:03 p.m. ET: The House of Representatives will wrap up Monday around 6:30 p.m. ET. After a House GOP Conference meeting at 5 p.m. ET they will have one vote series and then head out for the evening. This means the House will not vote Monday on any potential fiscal cliff deal.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/31/house-unlikely-to-vote-on-any-deal-until-after-cliff-deadline/

BREAKING NEWS: House aides say there will not be a vote on fiscal cliff package tonight

http://www.nbcnews.com/


BREAKING: House Won’t Vote On Fiscal Cliff Deal Tonight
A notice from the House Majority Whip's office indicates Republicans have no plans to hold a vote on any Senate-passed legislation to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff.

"There will be a Special GOP Conference Meeting at 5:00 p.m. in HC-5," according to the alert. "Immediately following Conference tonight, roughly 5:30-6:00 p.m. we will have our first and only vote series of the day on suspensions."

To translate, the House is only planning to vote on a handful of scheduled, non-controversial measures this evening. They plan to leave tonight whether or not the Senate passes a bill to avoid the expiration of the Bush tax cuts at midnight. That means that unless the GOP's plans change, then starting at midnight, the revenue baseline resets to a pre-Bush tax cut baseline, and any fiscal cliff legislation becomes a tax cut.

The consequences for the shape of any deal are potentially huge, but still unclear.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/breaking-house-wont-vote-on-fiscal-cliff-deal

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
35. Personally, I'm really surprised the market was up. It had every reason to go down.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:38 PM
Dec 2012

What is a near certainty re: the cliff is that capital gains rates will go up, either to pre-Bush levels or some negotiated level. I'm surprised there wasn't a ton of selling by people locking in their gains at lower rates.

chillfactor

(7,574 posts)
7. really no surprise here.....
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:22 PM
Dec 2012

I have always thought Boehner would hold up the deal and I hope he and the GOTP get the full blame...

I am 71 years old....and in my lifetime I have never seen such a dysfunctional Congress...

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
10. There will not be a vote tonight
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:28 PM
Dec 2012

I just got a notice from NBC. I feel like Alice where up is down and down is up.

Take it back - I AM upside down. Sorry...


Arkana

(24,347 posts)
11. As much as it pains me to think
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:28 PM
Dec 2012

of the folks on UI who will be affected by this, I'm almost glad.

Now I get to see the media shit its collective britches. Delicious.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
15. "Republican-controlled Senate"..."Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell"
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:39 PM
Dec 2012

Wait what?

Journalism in America.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
29. Wow there was a coup and we missed it?
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 06:57 PM
Dec 2012

The press is not only Puke biased but incompetent as well.

indypaul

(949 posts)
18. Exactly
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:55 PM
Dec 2012

Boehner should not be the only one who can move the goal posts
whenever he wants. I think this man is trying to fulfill the prophecy
of Benjamin Franklin who warned that if the government became so
corrupt that a despot would rule. Mr. Boehner appears to be headed
in that direction with Cantor's help.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
20. My this is some crappy reporting.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 06:18 PM
Dec 2012

Or maybe just editing.

Republican-controlled Senate
?

Vice-President Joe Biden and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Vice President Joe Biden had reached an agreement
?

That's pretty bad.

Kablooie

(18,628 posts)
25. Keep your hands and arms inside the country at all times.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 06:40 PM
Dec 2012

The roller coaster is starting downhill.
I wonder who's going to be thrown out of the car at the curves?

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
26. And the world didn't end......again!!!!!
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 06:43 PM
Dec 2012

First the Mayan Apocalypse fizzles, now we go over the 'Fiscal Cliff' without dire results! The doomsayers are going to be suffering from Apocalyptus Interruptus!

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
28. So does this mean all the 'automatic' provisions of the laws they previously passed regarding this
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 06:49 PM
Dec 2012

deadline must be dealt with individually.

They passed the laws laying out 12/31/12 as the drop-dead date, how can they ignore those if they don't make the deadline.

I know I don't get a pass if I fail to pay my taxes by the 'due date'...

Law is law.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
32. apparently the drop dead date is not really a drop dead date.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:20 PM
Dec 2012

It sounds like the plan is to pass a bill that will be retroactive to 12/31/2012.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
31. Apparently the House GOPers want to delay the vote until after the deadline.. why?
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:14 PM
Dec 2012

So it appears they are voting for a tax decrease rather than a tax increase.

Pathetic.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
34. This is not a huge deal..
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:33 PM
Dec 2012

.... We should do a $250K deal and not $450K. Tax code and spending items will now be handled individually, which IMHO will be better.

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