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AZJonnie

(4,024 posts)
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 05:50 AM Sep 2025

Yeah, planes pretty much fly themselves for the last 40+ years, and there was a pilot and co-pilot

Perhaps you'd like more details, from their 2021 testimony at the Ghislaine Maxwell trial, as witnesses for the prosecution?

Visoski stated Epstein did not restrict the pilots’ movement around the cabin; he and Rodgers were free to move about during flights to use restrooms or get coffee, which required passing the main seating/lounge area.

Both said they typically stayed in the cockpit for most of the flight but occasionally went into the cabin, and that Epstein never warned them to stay out of certain areas nor indicated they shouldn’t interact with guests.

They both testified they did not witness sexual acts or see any evidence of sexual activity or paraphernalia (e.g., used condoms, sex toys) during or after flights, nor did they notice any child passengers who were not with a parent

Clarification:

Both pilots noted seeing “young women,” but distinguished them from preteen or very young looking children.

There’s documented evidence (flight logs, testimony, depositions) that Giuffre was in fact a minor on many Epstein flights, but the pilots themselves did not recognize her as such based on appearance or conduct.

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