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Zorro

(18,647 posts)
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 06:00 PM Nov 2025

Trump administration tells Congress war law doesn't apply to cartel strikes

Source: Washington Post

The Office of Legal Counsel told lawmakers that the War Powers Resolution, which requires Congress’s approval for ongoing military conflict, does not apply here.

A top Justice Department lawyer has told lawmakers that the Trump administration can continue its lethal strikes against alleged drug traffickers in Latin America — and is not bound by a decades-old law requiring Congress to give approval for ongoing hostilities.

T. Elliot Gaiser, head of the Trump administration’s Office of Legal Counsel, made his remarks to a small group of lawmakers this week amid signs that the president may be planning to escalate the military campaign in the region, including potentially hitting targets within Venezuela.

The president needs lawmakers’ approval for sustained military conflict under the 1973 War Powers Resolution, which was passed in the wake of the Vietnam War to prevent another drawn-out, undeclared conflict.

A 60-day clock started ticking after the administration informed Congress on Sept. 4 that it had conducted a strike on an alleged drug boat in the Caribbean two days earlier. It has followed that with a series of other strikes and has killed dozens of people so far.

Read more: https://wapo.st/3WzQial

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Trump administration tells Congress war law doesn't apply to cartel strikes (Original Post) Zorro Nov 2025 OP
Oh, so we're supposed to take your fucking word for it? bluestarone Nov 2025 #1
Which top Justice Dept. lawyer would that be? Buddyzbuddy Nov 2025 #2
trump has been calling it his, "war on drugs," Bayard Nov 2025 #3
T. Elliot Gaiser mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2025 #4
Hillsdale College grad Zorro Nov 2025 #5
In the sense of "this is not a war, so Trump isn't allowed to do anything at all", perhaps muriel_volestrangler Nov 2025 #6
Meaning they, the trump administration, will murder republianmushroom Nov 2025 #7
War on Drugs? BidenRocks Nov 2025 #8
Trump: We don't want to be the policemen of the world BY BRETT SAMUELS - 04/30/18 (Remember?) usonian Nov 2025 #9
Because a felon is the legal expert? RainCaster Nov 2025 #10
has killed dozens of people so far. has killed dozens of innocent people so far. twodogsbarking Nov 2025 #11
I wonder if this small group of lawmakers was only republicans. Hugin Nov 2025 #12
Oh, I see. It's a "police action." n/t malthaussen Nov 2025 #13
Fixed it for you maxrandb Nov 2025 #14

bluestarone

(22,096 posts)
1. Oh, so we're supposed to take your fucking word for it?
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 06:05 PM
Nov 2025

So, you're saying you can blow the fuck out of China's boats because you claim drug boats?? YOU can go fuck yourself!!

Buddyzbuddy

(2,540 posts)
2. Which top Justice Dept. lawyer would that be?
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 06:24 PM
Nov 2025

Halligan, Pirro, Habba, or Blanche? Surely not T. Elliot Gaiser. Very reputable legal advice. You are certainly getting your money's worth, President Felon.

Bayard

(29,552 posts)
3. trump has been calling it his, "war on drugs,"
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 06:35 PM
Nov 2025

As his excuse since the beginning. Was he lying then, or lying now?

muriel_volestrangler

(106,125 posts)
6. In the sense of "this is not a war, so Trump isn't allowed to do anything at all", perhaps
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 07:50 PM
Nov 2025
Gaiser said the administration did not believe the strikes met the definition of hostilities under the law
...
The official said the administration does not believe U.S. troops are in danger in the ongoing operation, so the law did not apply.
...
“What they’re saying is anytime the president uses drones or any standoff weapon against someone who cannot shoot back, it’s not hostilities‚” said Brian Finucane, a former legal adviser to the State Department who is now a senior adviser for the U.S. program at the International Crisis Group. “It’s a wild claim of executive authority.”

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"
"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything".

republianmushroom

(22,284 posts)
7. Meaning they, the trump administration, will murder
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 08:09 PM
Nov 2025

who ever they want. And who wants to tell me republicans don't like playing "GOD". If it is not War, then it is murder.

BidenRocks

(3,225 posts)
8. War on Drugs?
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 09:05 PM
Nov 2025

Policing actions? Two countries starting in V
Secret wars run by our clandestine government.

Shit, we're back in the 60s

usonian

(25,064 posts)
9. Trump: We don't want to be the policemen of the world BY BRETT SAMUELS - 04/30/18 (Remember?)
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 11:37 PM
Nov 2025
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/385521-trump-we-dont-want-to-be-the-policemen-of-the-world/

President Trump on Monday said the U.S. should no longer serve as the “policemen of the world.”

“We more and more are not wanting to be the policemen of the world,” Trump said during a joint press conference with Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari.

“We’re spending tremendous amounts of money for decades policing the world, and that shouldn’t be the priority,” he said. “We want to police ourselves and we want to rebuild our country. And the president understands that.”{mosads}

Trump ran on the promise that he would extricate the U.S. from foreign wars.

RainCaster

(13,678 posts)
10. Because a felon is the legal expert?
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 12:02 AM
Nov 2025

Who in hell would listen to that criminal? He can't even recognize a senility test when he's taking one.

Hugin

(37,835 posts)
12. I wonder if this small group of lawmakers was only republicans.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 10:27 AM
Nov 2025

This may have been the meeting where democrats were intentionally excluded.

maxrandb

(17,413 posts)
14. Fixed it for you
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:12 PM
Nov 2025

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