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BumRushDaShow

(167,157 posts)
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 03:54 AM Nov 2025

Michigan Lawyer Says The Halloween Terror Plot That FBI Director Kash Patel Described Never Existed

Source: Huff Post/AP

Nov 1, 2025, 04:52 PM EDT


A Michigan defense lawyer is disputing FBI allegations that his 20-year-old client and four other young suspects were planning to carry out a terror attack on Halloween weekend. Authorities with the FBI and in Michigan have offered few details about the case, however as he announced the arrests on Friday, FBI Director Kash Patel said more information would be released. Spokespersons for the state and national FBI and the U.S. Attorney in Detroit did not immediately respond to messages Saturday.

The investigation involved discussion in an online chat room involving at least some of the suspects who were taken into custody, according to two people briefed on the investigation who could not publicly discuss details. They spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. The group allegedly discussed carrying out an attack around Halloween, referring to “pumpkin day,” according to one of the people. The other person briefed on the investigation confirmed that there had been a “pumpkin” reference.

However, lawyer Amir Makled, who represents a man from the suburb of Dearborn who was being detained Saturday, told The Detroit News that he doesn’t believe his client or the four other people who were questioned by the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force should be charged. The all-male group of U.S. citizens ranges in age from 16-20, Makled said.

“This is not a terrorist cell,” Makled told The News. “There was never any planned mass-casualty event or terrorism plot of any kind that I’m aware of. They might have been on some websites or online chat groups that they shouldn’t have been, but nothing that is illegal.” Makled did not immediately respond to messages from the AP seeking comment on Saturday.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-michigan-arrests-halloween-plot-kash-patel_n_6906720de4b05a8637e7c3f3?origin=home-whats-happening-unit

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Michigan Lawyer Says The Halloween Terror Plot That FBI Director Kash Patel Described Never Existed (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 OP
Pretty much... 2naSalit Nov 2025 #1
You're not the only one. calimary Nov 2025 #2
They were disguised as Mutant Ninja Turtles BidenRocks Nov 2025 #3
The Trump Crime Syndicate always lies, always commits crimes. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #4
Kash needed snowybirdie Nov 2025 #5
+1 dalton99a Nov 2025 #8
As everyone suspected... travelingthrulife Nov 2025 #6
The first time I read about it, it sounded so bs kimbutgar Nov 2025 #7
To point out the obvious..... JohnnyRingo Nov 2025 #9
"That's what grand juries are for." BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #11
I get it, but a GJ is only the first hurdle in the justice system JohnnyRingo Nov 2025 #13
Oh sure BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #16
Can they hold a grand jury after someone has been arrested and charged? FakeNoose Nov 2025 #18
Your "avatars"? with Piglet an Poo made me laugh out loud. The rest are great as well. ED Evolve Dammit Nov 2025 #21
Yes, a grand jury can be held after a person has been arrested and charged reACTIONary Nov 2025 #25
Thanks ... I learned something today FakeNoose Nov 2025 #26
Yeah, we should wait for a trial. But that's not our style: ... JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2025 #19
And to point out a subtlety.... reACTIONary Nov 2025 #23
I wouldn't trust that claim no matter who was in charge. malthaussen Nov 2025 #10
I have heard Halloween referred to as 'pumpkin day' forever ToxMarz Nov 2025 #12
Trumpkin Day BattleRow Nov 2025 #24
Maybe their online chat was planning to attack extra-large pizzas on Halloween. Vinca Nov 2025 #14
What a member of this administration lying to us. republianmushroom Nov 2025 #15
Patel and Boing Boing pfitz59 Nov 2025 #17
Patel is a Republican... GiqueCee Nov 2025 #20
And if we actually have something along these lines.... paleotn Nov 2025 #22
It's almost like they are afraid of real dangerous people. 1WorldHope Nov 2025 #27
May have been real Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #28

2naSalit

(100,975 posts)
1. Pretty much...
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 03:57 AM
Nov 2025

As I suspected.

I hope these fucking nazis get their karma before I leave the planet, I really want to see that.

kimbutgar

(26,985 posts)
7. The first time I read about it, it sounded so bs
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 09:56 AM
Nov 2025

Kash was desperate to change the subject of him using the government jet for a date night and said look over there and not at my wrongdoing.

JohnnyRingo

(20,636 posts)
9. To point out the obvious.....
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 10:37 AM
Nov 2025

It's their defense lawyer. He has to say they're innocent. It's literally his job whether or not they actually are.

Considering this administration and Keystone Kash's reputation that may be true, but better to wait until more information comes out before making conclusions. That's what grand juries are for.

BumRushDaShow

(167,157 posts)
11. "That's what grand juries are for."
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 10:50 AM
Nov 2025

Like the one that indicted NY AG Letitia James?

(remember, grand juries are only given "one side" because they are actually establishing "charges" versus what is typical that come from LEOs who actually witness a crime)

JohnnyRingo

(20,636 posts)
13. I get it, but a GJ is only the first hurdle in the justice system
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 11:14 AM
Nov 2025

They may well be innocent. I'm not to judge. I'm just saying a defense lawyer is going to say they are regardless, and before demanding their release we should learn more. -If we're allowed before a GJ hears it.

Trump's defense lawyers made that plea 37 times.

BumRushDaShow

(167,157 posts)
16. Oh sure
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 11:43 AM
Nov 2025

But we are in a different "universe" with different "rules" and the oft-projected "rigging" is now being carried out by those who accused "us" of such.

reACTIONary

(7,057 posts)
25. Yes, a grand jury can be held after a person has been arrested and charged
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:24 PM
Nov 2025

Yes, a grand jury can be held after a person has been arrested and charged, as grand juries are often used to secure an indictment before a felony trial, even after an arrest.In many jurisdictions, a grand jury indictment is required for felony charges. Even if charges have been filed, a prosecutor will still present the evidence to a grand jury to secure the necessary indictment.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,634 posts)
19. Yeah, we should wait for a trial. But that's not our style: ...
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:13 PM
Nov 2025

We didn't wait for a trial to condemn Biden and seek his exit from the 2024 race.

We didn't wait for a trial to condemn Al Franken and seek his exit from the senate.

At least for this group, there might be a trial. Hegseth could have simply dropped some bombs on the houses and be done with it.

malthaussen

(18,477 posts)
10. I wouldn't trust that claim no matter who was in charge.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 10:43 AM
Nov 2025

Most of these soi-disant "terrorist plots" are either fantasies of law enforcement, or worse, entrapment operations that are actually started by law enforcement. Because they don't want to admit that US Citizens are infinitely more likely to be killed by a redneck with a rifle than a foreign terrorist.

-- Mal

Vinca

(53,555 posts)
14. Maybe their online chat was planning to attack extra-large pizzas on Halloween.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 11:15 AM
Nov 2025

If they're the right color, it's enough for this administration.

paleotn

(21,834 posts)
22. And if we actually have something along these lines....
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 03:44 PM
Nov 2025

It will go unnoticed until it's too late. Simply due to this regimes gross incompetence.

1WorldHope

(1,912 posts)
27. It's almost like they are afraid of real dangerous people.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 09:42 PM
Nov 2025

I don't mean extremely dangerous, I mean real dangerous compared to, not fucking dangerous at all!!!

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