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BumRushDaShow

(167,144 posts)
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 02:53 PM Nov 2025

Democratic leader offers deal to reopen government, but Republicans sneer

Last edited Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNBC

Published Fri, Nov 7 2025 2:50 PM EST Updated 31 Min Ago


Top Senate Democrat Chuck Schumer on Friday offered a new plan to Republican lawmakers that would allow the U.S. government to reopen from a shutdown that began Oct. 1.

But Republicans quickly dismissed Schumer’s proposal.

That deal hinges on protecting enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies for at least one year in exchange for Democrats dropping their demand that a long-term extension of ACA tax credits be included in a stopgap government funding bill.

“I find Senator Schumer’s demands ridiculous and equivalent to political hostage taking to continue bad policy, Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said in a post on X. “We should not be made to continue flooding health insurance companies with taxpayer dollars under Obamacare as the price to open up the government,” Graham said. “My no vote will be an unequivocal rejection of Senator Schumer’s very bad idea.”

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/07/government-shutdown-democrats-schumer-trump-aca.html





Article updated.

Previous articles/headline -

Published Fri, Nov 7 2025 2:50 PM EST Updated 2 Min Ago


Top Senate Democrat Chuck Schumer on Friday offered a new plan to Republican lawmakers that would allow the U.S. government to reopen from a shutdown that began Oct. 1.

Schumer's proposal calls for Democrats to agree to pass a so-called clean resolution that would provide short-term funding for government operations.

In exchange, the New York lawmaker said, Republicans would agree to a separate one-year extension of existing enhanced tax credits that are used to reduce the cost of health insurance purchased on Affordable Care Act marketplaces.

The other leg of the deal calls for the establishment of a bipartisan committee to continue negotiations on long-term reforms to address the issue of health-care affordability.



Democratic leader offers deal to reopen federal government, with 1-year ACA tax credit extension

Published Fri, Nov 7 2025 2:50 PM EST Updated 2 Min Ago


Top Senate Democrat Chuck Schumer on Friday offered a new plan to Republicans that would allow the U.S. government to reopen after a shutdown that began on Oct. 1.

Schumer's proposal calls for Democrats to agree to pass a so-called clean resolution that would provide short-term funding for government operations.

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Democratic leader offers deal to reopen government, but Republicans sneer (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 OP
And there's no reason for maga not to Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #1
Just remember, this. is all on them... COL Mustard Nov 2025 #39
Exactly. They own this government. They own this shutdown. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #42
The 60 is actually not a requirement but rather an agreement I believe. cstanleytech Nov 2025 #46
It's Senate Rule 22 that requires 60 votes to invoke cloture. It also takes 67 votes to change Senate Rules. 24601 Nov 2025 #60
Ah but is the rule a Constitutional requirement or not? If not then they can just override it anytime they want. cstanleytech Nov 2025 #66
The Constitution does not require it. The Constitution does allow it because houses of Congress are empowered 24601 Nov 9 #68
But can they just ignore it? cstanleytech Nov 9 #69
Can they ignore it? There isn't a court that would intervene. When Harry Reid ignored Senate Rule 22 and went nuclear, 24601 Nov 9 #70
That would make ACA prime topic for Election Day 2026 bucolic_frolic Nov 2025 #2
Exactly! Bev54 Nov 2025 #30
Permanent. LuvLoogie Nov 2025 #3
"He's offering what the GOPs floated?!" BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #4
Why wouldn't he demand permanent? And get somebody else to write the strongly worded letter. LuvLoogie Nov 2025 #6
Weak sauce from Chuck. Just reinforces the notion he's not the person meant to meet the moment. Efilroft Sul Nov 2025 #7
I wonder if his proposal has a lot more conditions Bluetus Nov 2025 #47
My Susan Collins concern is that Chuck doesn't see what you, me, and most everyone else on this thread does. Efilroft Sul Nov 2025 #59
100% agree. So why didn't the Republicals take Schumer's softball deal Bluetus Nov 2025 #62
Something does seem off. Efilroft Sul Nov 2025 #64
Unless the goal is something completely different Bluetus Nov 2025 #65
Or, as I suspect, the Republicans are all in on it, and Thune's just good at looking stupid. Efilroft Sul Nov 2025 #67
They updated the article (I always try to update) and the GOP has already rejected it. BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #19
Because he is old and has no spine, he's got his NotHardly Nov 2025 #22
I'm not liking this kicking the can down the street..after 34-35 days and we'll be at it again next year Deuxcents Nov 2025 #5
Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #8
At this point yes..... Lovie777 Nov 2025 #9
Now do people see why Schumer should have taken a stand back in March? gab13by13 Nov 2025 #10
Okay, how is this going to work? Baitball Blogger Nov 2025 #11
How would a supermajority in the house (but not the senate) benefit Dems? Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #13
By shutting down the House they Baitball Blogger Nov 2025 #15
A simple majority would do the same thing. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #20
Right. So if there is a kick-the-can solution ... Bluetus Nov 2025 #48
thank you for pitching in. Baitball Blogger Nov 2025 #49
"The absolute worst deal would be to kick it 12 months..." LudwigPastorius Nov 2025 #54
The timing is tricky Bluetus Nov 2025 #63
If the expiration date is after the midterms, NO DEAL Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #12
THIS... what Fiendish Thingy said! NotHardly Nov 2025 #23
Schumer probably knows best. In terms of BootinUp Nov 2025 #14
NO TEMPORARY EXTENSIONS!!! Miguelito Loveless Nov 2025 #16
Way to keep the momentum going orangecrush Nov 2025 #17
Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #18
If there's agreement, the separate ACA deal needs to pass first. Buddyzbuddy Nov 2025 #21
Confusing article thesquanderer Nov 2025 #24
It sounds like the offer would be to add the short-term extension to one of the separate appropriations bills BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #31
He may have offered the plan knowing full well it would be rejected. This allows Dems to say they tried to reopen the Fil1957 Nov 2025 #25
Exactly right. FalloutShelter Nov 2025 #26
That's what it looks like (once the article got updated with some more details) BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #32
This is what I conjured from this proposal peggysue2 Nov 2025 #55
And this would pass in the House? Fat chance Raven123 Nov 2025 #27
MAGA rejected the clean bill they've been asking for. They don't want to open the government. aeromanKC Nov 2025 #28
I hadn't thought of that. 70sEraVet Nov 2025 #34
So you're telling me there's a chance!! aeromanKC Nov 2025 #35
I've attended two No Kings protests in Carksville (about 30 miles from me) 70sEraVet Nov 2025 #40
"If the GOP gets another member from Tennessee sworn in after Dec. 2nd to neutralize Grijalva's vote" BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #36
I like your math better than my math!! aeromanKC Nov 2025 #37
That seat in Tennessee will NOT neutralize Grijalva's vote. Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #41
Correct Deminpenn Nov 2025 #50
Senator Graham Cracker says 20 billion for Argentina bronxiteforever Nov 2025 #29
I think it's long past time for Lindsey to be exposed. Mr. Evil Nov 2025 #33
I also find Schumer's proposal unacceptable. Absolutely NO on a one year deal. flashman13 Nov 2025 #38
This was clearly done because he knew the Republicans would reject it. Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #43
Yes Deminpenn Nov 2025 #53
We are getting sold out AGAIN angrychair Nov 2025 #44
I agree with Senator Schiff on this proposal LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2025 #45
Schumer/Dems forced Rs to vote against taking "yes" for an answer Deminpenn Nov 2025 #51
Lindsey knows there's a good chance Dems will take the House and Senate louis-t Nov 2025 #52
A 'too reasonable offer', but the GQP WANTS your health insurance costs Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #56
There goes that new word again 'affordability' Rigpa108 Nov 2025 #57
Senate Democrats offer to end shutdown in exchange for 1-year extension of health care tax credits - CBS News Rhiannon12866 Nov 2025 #58
kicking the can down the road is not a solution. travelingthrulife Nov 2025 #61

COL Mustard

(8,063 posts)
39. Just remember, this. is all on them...
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:45 PM
Nov 2025

Republicans control the House, the Senate and of course the White House. I know there is a 60-vote requirement to pass legislation, but they could change that anytime they want and force the CR through. Of corse, in two weeks we'd be right back here.

cstanleytech

(28,309 posts)
46. The 60 is actually not a requirement but rather an agreement I believe.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 08:35 PM
Nov 2025

Th reason that the Republicans are antsy about completely throwing it under the bus is because the Republicans want some Democrats to take the fall for people's health insurance rising. Plus they know that shredding the 60 completely will be a grant to the Democrats to do a number of things when the next Democratic President comes into office combined with a Democratic controlled House and Senate.

The Democrats need to not cave though and force the Republicans to find a way out of this mess on their own because the Republicans caused it themselves.

24601

(4,136 posts)
68. The Constitution does not require it. The Constitution does allow it because houses of Congress are empowered
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:26 AM
Nov 9

to make their own rules. Specifically, ART I, Section Five states:

"Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member."

This is the relevant portion of Senate Rule XXII:

‘‘Is it the sense of the Senate that the debate shall be brought to a close?’’ And if that question shall be decided in the affirmative by three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn—except on a measure or motion to amend the Senate rules, in which case the necessary affirmative vote shall be two-thirds of the Senators present and voting—then said measure, motion, or other matter pending before the Senate, or the unfinished business, shall be the unfinished business to the exclusion of all other business until disposed of."

When 100 Senators have been chosen and sworn, the number to invoke cloture is 60 [3/5] and that's without regard to whether they are present and voting.

Changing the rules, however, takes 2/3 of the Senators present and voting. That number is 67 when every Senator is present and votes.

24601

(4,136 posts)
70. Can they ignore it? There isn't a court that would intervene. When Harry Reid ignored Senate Rule 22 and went nuclear,
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:14 PM
Nov 9

the end result was Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett.

The Senate is the only organization within government that requires the majority to negotiate with a minority that has at least 41%.

Senators COULD eliminate it; however, the resulting back and forth with successive Congresses undoing their predecessors actions likely would be very disruptive overall.

BumRushDaShow

(167,144 posts)
4. "He's offering what the GOPs floated?!"
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 03:01 PM
Nov 2025

The GOP have offered NOTHING but "concepts of a plan", but "Repeal and Replace" is their main goal, or better "Rpeal" period, something that they have harped on for the past 15 years.

LuvLoogie

(8,643 posts)
6. Why wouldn't he demand permanent? And get somebody else to write the strongly worded letter.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 03:05 PM
Nov 2025

The ACA is passed out on the floor, and Chuck looks at the cameras.

Bluetus

(2,488 posts)
47. I wonder if his proposal has a lot more conditions
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 11:16 PM
Nov 2025

I mean, if all he is asking for is a 1-year extension, after which they can kill it again, why wouldn't the GOP take that deal in a heartbeat?

Let's hope there was some much tougher fine print in Schumer's offer.

At this stage, I'd rather see the GOP try to make it through the Thanksgiving and Christmas travel seasons explaining why everything remains broken.

And remember that inflation is rising as is unemployment, so the pot is going to be boiling the Republicans real soon.

Efilroft Sul

(4,368 posts)
59. My Susan Collins concern is that Chuck doesn't see what you, me, and most everyone else on this thread does.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:25 AM
Nov 2025

He should, after Democrats wanted to light him up in spring, but the fact that he low-balled an offer with just a one-year extension on the ACA subsidies (when billionaires get "permanent" tax breaks) doesn't put me at ease. Because, as you said, the GOP should've jumped at such an offer on its face.

After Tuesday's election, my initial offer would've been to fund the extensions with no sunset provision, release the SNAP funds ASAP, and restore LIHEAP resources also ASAP so disadvantaged Americans don't freeze in their homes this winter. And if the Republicans balked, shout from the rooftops that Trump and MAGA want people to die from the cold, die from starvation, and die from not being able to see their doctor.

Bluetus

(2,488 posts)
62. 100% agree. So why didn't the Republicals take Schumer's softball deal
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 01:32 PM
Nov 2025

if the reports of Schumer's deal are accurate?

I certainly believe that Schumer is capable of making such a weak offer, but if so, the Republicans should have accepted that with about 5 milliseconds of thought. Why didn't they?

I think these reports cannot possibly be accurate.

Bluetus

(2,488 posts)
65. Unless the goal is something completely different
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 03:41 PM
Nov 2025

Trump has been all over the map on this. He dared the Dems to hold the line, saying he would use the shutdown to do even more devastation to the government and to punish blue states. But then a few days ago he was demanding that Senate Repulicans kill the filibuster to end the shutdown.

Let's assume that Trump really isn't calling the shots. There are many behind the scenes who are probably enjoying seeing government flailing. This surely includes people like Theil, Bannon, Miller and most of the cabinet Secretaries.

So it is entirely possible they they fully intended for this conflict to either result in total capitulation by the Dems very quickly, or a long (like many months) shutdown that essentially kills all the programs the billionaires hate. And they may not be telling Thune,

"OK, we thought the Dems would capitulate quickly as they always have before. We underestimated them. But that's OK. Let's keep this shutdown going at least through the end of the year. It is going to hurt the Dem base more than it hurts us billionaires. And by the way, if this causes a severe recession, that's OK too because that means that billionaires can swoop in any take control of companies at a big discount.. So just keep stalling."
 

NotHardly

(2,705 posts)
22. Because he is old and has no spine, he's got his
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 04:13 PM
Nov 2025
spineless and lacks creativity and no thought for the rest of us ... where are the young vigorous leaders?

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Lovie777

(22,265 posts)
9. At this point yes.....
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 03:20 PM
Nov 2025

There will always be a fight with them no matter what, GQP do not believe in healthcare at all regarding the less fortunate.

gab13by13

(31,625 posts)
10. Now do people see why Schumer should have taken a stand back in March?
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 03:20 PM
Nov 2025

When a handful of Democratic Senators passed the CR back in March, Krasnov got everything he wanted, he got his Big Ugly Death Bill passed that gutted our social safety net.

Fast forward to today's CR, the only bargaining chip that Democrats have is Obamacare subsidies, and Chuck wants a temporary deal to fund it.

I guess the gutting of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the VA, SNAP, etc. etc. is a done deal, the Big Ugly Death has become the law of the land, much harder to rescind once it is a law.

I year of subsidies for Obamacare, Magats should throw a party, will insurers change their premiums once this is agreed to?

Baitball Blogger

(51,896 posts)
11. Okay, how is this going to work?
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 03:26 PM
Nov 2025

When does the House have a changing of the guard? Because, there is going to be a Democratic sweep during the mid-terms 11/26. It's not really the Senate that we need to worry about as much as the House. We need a House with a Democratic supermajority to make sure that the Republicans in the future don't screw us over.

Baitball Blogger

(51,896 posts)
15. By shutting down the House they
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 03:44 PM
Nov 2025

Control ACA has turned into bargaining chip. With a super majority Dems, the Republicans lose their leverage.

Bluetus

(2,488 posts)
48. Right. So if there is a kick-the-can solution ...
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 11:19 PM
Nov 2025

it ought to be kicked to February 2027 when there is a good chance we will control the House and the budgeting process.

The absolute worst deal would be to kick it 12 months, meaning that the Republicans could screw us over in the lame duck period after the 2026 elections.

Surely Schumer is smart enough to figure this out. He is, isn't he?

LudwigPastorius

(14,379 posts)
54. "The absolute worst deal would be to kick it 12 months..."
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 12:05 AM
Nov 2025

I don't see it that way.

Every single Congressional Republican campaigning for a seat next year will have to stand up before the press and elucidate to a highly-pissed off electorate why they WON'T be extending the ACA subsidies.

They don't have the balls. They know that would screw their chances on Nov. 3 2026, especially after the ass kicking they received this week.

They WANT a deal that makes this go away until after the election.

Bluetus

(2,488 posts)
63. The timing is tricky
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 01:52 PM
Nov 2025

Killing the subsidy before the election won't really be noticed. The public at large will not pay attention to that until the open enrollment period, that's only a few days before the election. I don't think we can win the mid-terms with that being the primary issue. But I think we can win if we have a proactive platform of plans that attack the fascism and lawlessness of Trump..

So I don't think it is helpful to kick it only to September 2026. That won't help us win, and once the Republicans kill it, it will be very hard to bring it back, especially if we don't control the Senate.

And allowing the GOP to kill it in the lame duck period is also a loser.

The only period that makes sense to me is after the new House is seated in 2027.

====

It is important to understand that this affects 22 million Americans. That is a significant number, but that also means that it just doesn't affect 80% of the voters. A more powerful electoral issue would be to add dental and visual benefits to real Medicare. That is how the Advantage scam works. With Advantage, they save a lot of money on hospitalization simply by denying treatments, and they give some of that back in the form of glasses, hearing aids and dental work. That affects 70 million people directly and another 30 million are close enough to the Medicare age to care about this.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,458 posts)
12. If the expiration date is after the midterms, NO DEAL
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 03:35 PM
Nov 2025

If that is what Schumer is proposing, he should lose his leadership position.

BootinUp

(51,034 posts)
14. Schumer probably knows best. In terms of
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 03:39 PM
Nov 2025

The politics of the senate. Throwing a fit is easy, getting a deal done is not. I’m here until I’m not. lol.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,534 posts)
16. NO TEMPORARY EXTENSIONS!!!
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 03:46 PM
Nov 2025

A temporary extension helps the GOP in the short term by postponing the pain of skyrocketing premiums until AFTER the midterms.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

thesquanderer

(12,918 posts)
24. Confusing article
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 04:48 PM
Nov 2025

It says...

Schumer’s proposal calls for Democrats to agree to pass a so-called clean resolution that would provide short-term funding for government operations. In exchange, the New York lawmaker said, Republicans would agree to a separate one-year extension of existing enhanced tax credits that are used to reduce the cost of health insurance purchased on ACA marketplaces.

Okay, so the proposed plan for the short-term funding agreement includes an extension of the existing enhanced ACA tax credits.

But then it says...

Schumer’s offer drops the long-standing Democratic demand that the short-term funding resolution include an extension of the enhanced ACA subsidies, which are due to expire at the end of December.

So then the proposed plan for the short-term funding agreement does NOT include an extension of the enhanced ACA subsidies.

These statements seem directly contradictory, unless there is some subtle distinction between "tax credits" and "subsidies" that I am not aware of.

BumRushDaShow

(167,144 posts)
31. It sounds like the offer would be to add the short-term extension to one of the separate appropriations bills
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:27 PM
Nov 2025

(probably the HHS one) since the point of the C.R. was to give more time to FINALIZE and PASS the actual appropriations bills - whether as singles, "Minibus" combos, or a huge "Omnibus" bill.

Fil1957

(623 posts)
25. He may have offered the plan knowing full well it would be rejected. This allows Dems to say they tried to reopen the
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 04:53 PM
Nov 2025

government, but the Repubs want to keep it shut. Trump is also helping to drive this narrative by doing everything he can to NOT provide snap benefits.

peggysue2

(12,443 posts)
55. This is what I conjured from this proposal
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 12:36 AM
Nov 2025

It placates the Democratic 'moderates' who presumably want to open the government regardless of cost while placing a marker--we tried to negotiate, made an offer and it was summarily rejected.

The Republicans and Trump own this shutdown. make them own it entirely. The Democratic Party needs to stop bailing out Republicans from their worst inclinations.

Are people going to get hurt? Yes. That's the whole point. the pain, the cruelty, anything to get their way and to complete the total destruction of our democratic Republic.

It's a matter of hurting now or being destroyed later.

It sucks. All of it sucks. But I firmly believe we need to hold the line to the bitter end because we are on the right side of history and we owe our ancestors, the sacrifices they made for our sake, everything.

Not on our watch!

aeromanKC

(3,853 posts)
28. MAGA rejected the clean bill they've been asking for. They don't want to open the government.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:11 PM
Nov 2025

As long as the government is shut down, the Epstein files are closed. If the GOP gets another member from Tennessee sworn in after Dec. 2nd to neutralize Grijalva's vote The Epstein files remain closed. MAGA GOP doesn't want the Government re-opened anytime soon.

It's up to the Dems now to message that!! They offered a clean bill.

70sEraVet

(5,349 posts)
34. I hadn't thought of that.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:30 PM
Nov 2025

I wish I could feel confident that the Democratic candidate might win District 7 in TN (my district). Though that district includes 1/3 of Nashville and all of Clarksville (a lot of blue support), it also contains a LOT of MAGA territory.

70sEraVet

(5,349 posts)
40. I've attended two No Kings protests in Carksville (about 30 miles from me)
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:56 PM
Nov 2025

I was amazed at the attendance and the support of drivers!
Clarksville has Fort Campbell AND Austin Peay State University. So, a lot of young people. It is currently the 5th largest city in Tennessee!

BumRushDaShow

(167,144 posts)
36. "If the GOP gets another member from Tennessee sworn in after Dec. 2nd to neutralize Grijalva's vote"
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:34 PM
Nov 2025

There is no "neutralize" if another (R) comes in unless some other (R) or (D) changes their vote.

They need 218 for the discharge petition, they have 217 now and Grijalva would be #218. A simple majority in the House in general is that 218 number (50% of 435 +1), enough to force the vote and enough to pass (assuming the final vote holds).

Wiz Imp

(9,280 posts)
41. That seat in Tennessee will NOT neutralize Grijalva's vote.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 06:35 PM
Nov 2025

A discharge position always needs 218 signatures which is a majority of the 435 seats in the House. It doesn't matter how many seats might be open at the time. It always requires 218. Grijalva is #218. The Texas district which will have a runoff next month (It will be 2 Dems in the runoff for Sylvester Turner's old seat) will be #219 if Grijalva still doesn't get sworn in by before that runoff election. Currently there are 213 Democrats sworn in. All have signed the discharge petition. 4 Republicans have also signed to make 217. Grijalva will be #218 unless somebody who already signed changes their mind. The Special Election in Tennessee is meaningless as far as the discharge petition is concerned.

Mr. Evil

(3,449 posts)
33. I think it's long past time for Lindsey to be exposed.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:28 PM
Nov 2025

For everything he is and everything he isn't. One thing's for sure, he is useless in the progression of humanity. Let it fly!

flashman13

(2,216 posts)
38. I also find Schumer's proposal unacceptable. Absolutely NO on a one year deal.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:44 PM
Nov 2025

The tax cut for billionaires has no one year end date. What is good for the uber rich should be good enough for the rest of us. Why would we want to fight this battle again in one year?

Hold the line Democrats.

Wiz Imp

(9,280 posts)
43. This was clearly done because he knew the Republicans would reject it.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 06:44 PM
Nov 2025

Many non-MAGA Republicans in the media have been critical of the Democrats saying they should agree to something effectively the same as Schumer's "offer". They have been naive enough to believe the Republicans would actually go along with it. By making the "offer", and having Republicans reject it, Schumer proves that the Republicans do not care about Health Insurance premiums doubling (or more) for millions of Americans - in fact, they want that to happen. In the end, it further strengthens the Democrats' position.

angrychair

(11,901 posts)
44. We are getting sold out AGAIN
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 07:55 PM
Nov 2025

If the Senate passes that CR the Republicans can pat themselves on the back and they don't have to do anything else. They got what they wanted.

Not to mention that even if it passes Congress that the orange turd monster can just veto it and then we are screwed.

No deal unless they pass the ACA subsidies and it's signed into law before they vote on the CR

Deminpenn

(17,335 posts)
51. Schumer/Dems forced Rs to vote against taking "yes" for an answer
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 11:53 PM
Nov 2025

When Dems were voting down the House CR, Americans could think Dems were responsible for holding up the works and not "working together" with Rs. But now that Dems have made a proposal that asks very little in return for their votes, Rs have shown their hand by voting it down.

Now it's much clearer and easier to see the Rs are the ones who won't negotiate and don't want to re-open the government.

louis-t

(24,583 posts)
52. Lindsey knows there's a good chance Dems will take the House and Senate
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 11:55 PM
Nov 2025

next year, then they will continue ACA subsidies. Repugs feel it is their lot in life to punish people.

Jack Valentino

(4,626 posts)
56. A 'too reasonable offer', but the GQP WANTS your health insurance costs
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 01:03 AM
Nov 2025

to become impossible, so that you will DIE--- and thus NOT VOTE!

It is as simple as that!



(as an old Democrat, I support that offer, to end the shutdown---
but not enough for the GQP as it seems, who refuse to even talk---
too busy beating off to pedophile videos!)

Rigpa108

(70 posts)
57. There goes that new word again 'affordability'
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 02:09 AM
Nov 2025

There goes that new word again 'affordability’. I mean it's so new, what does it even mean? Is it even in the dictionary? /s

Rhiannon12866

(252,158 posts)
58. Senate Democrats offer to end shutdown in exchange for 1-year extension of health care tax credits - CBS News
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 02:45 AM
Nov 2025


Sen. Chuck Schumer announced on the Senate floor Friday that Democrats are willing to end the government shutdown in exchange for a one-year extension of health care tax credits. - Aired on 11/07/2025.



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