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BumRushDaShow

(168,202 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:45 PM Nov 2025

Supreme Court Weighs Decision on Birthright Citizenship: What To Know

Source: Newsweek

Nov 21, 2025 at 02:27 PM EST


The U.S. Supreme Court is meeting in private on Friday to consider taking on President Donald Trump’s order ending birthright citizenship for children born in the United States to noncitizen parents, according to the Associated Press.

Why It Matters

Moments after taking office for his second term, Trump signed an executive order titled "PROTECTING THE MEANING AND VALUE OF AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP.” Trump's executive action seeks to prevent children born on U.S. soil from automatically receiving citizenship if neither parent was an American citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of birth.

The concept of birthright citizenship has long been established in the U.S., with the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guaranteeing citizenship to "all persons born or naturalized in the United States."

Trump pledged to launch the largest mass deportation operation in U.S. history. His administration reported in September that “2 million illegal aliens have been removed or self-deported in just 250 days.”

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/supreme-court-weighs-decision-on-birthright-citizenship-what-to-know-11090545



This has been simmering on the back burner while the tariffs (and a million other issues) were in the spotlight.

The SCOTUS can complete the destruction of the United States of America if they even attempt to consider the 14th Amendment (where "Amendments" are something that require a full court press to enact and to repeal via the same process), "unconstitutional", or even try to cherry-pick some nonsense "exceptions". I believe that 4 Appellate Courts were like - "Oh HELL no" about that E.O.
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Supreme Court Weighs Decision on Birthright Citizenship: What To Know (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 OP
6 - 3 Decision yankee87 Nov 2025 #1
Wouldn't that affect the orange piggy since his mother was not born in America? kimbutgar Nov 2025 #2
No. According to the EO.... reACTIONary Nov 2025 #12
Seems to me Timewas Nov 2025 #3
"Since it is actually in the constitution,and I don't see any ambiguity in the wording,... BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #6
What I said n/t Timewas Nov 2025 #8
I am interpreting what you said BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #9
Trump made money from doing exactly that mgardener Nov 2025 #4
Wait, "if neither parent WAS"? Is this fuckhead trying to do this RETROACTIVELY? AZJonnie Nov 2025 #5
No. The executive order.... reACTIONary Nov 2025 #13
Even so, I'm not sure the SCOTUS can give it a go-ahead without it declaring it applies retroactively AZJonnie Nov 2025 #14
There are multiple "practical" problems with this EO.... reACTIONary Nov 2025 #20
"meeting in private" PSPS Nov 2025 #7
Oh, and maybe include a quote published in 1512, from the Vice-Mayor of West Bumfuckshire, England AZJonnie Nov 2025 #15
Well............. the maga 6 might have to look in the mirror and ask if there relatives were immigrants................ turbinetree Nov 2025 #10
It's pretty simple. A change like this takes a constitutional amendment just like the second amendment regarding guns. cstanleytech Nov 2025 #11
We've seen this game before. Shipwack Nov 2025 #16
They did a carve-out for 45 BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #17
Thanks! Forgot about that part. Shipwack Nov 2025 #19
Virtually all of us Cirsium Nov 2025 #18
What a bunch of asswipes mdbl Nov 2025 #21

kimbutgar

(27,115 posts)
2. Wouldn't that affect the orange piggy since his mother was not born in America?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:53 PM
Nov 2025

And 4 of his children were born of mothers who were naturalized?

reACTIONary

(7,116 posts)
12. No. According to the EO....
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 06:10 PM
Nov 2025

... which is none the less bull shit, one parent who is a citizen is enough. And naturalization makes you a citizen, so in this case, two parents are citizens.

Timewas

(2,710 posts)
3. Seems to me
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:56 PM
Nov 2025

Since it is actually in the constitution,and I don't see any ambiguity in the wording,that it would take an ammendment to change that not just an opinion.

BumRushDaShow

(168,202 posts)
6. "Since it is actually in the constitution,and I don't see any ambiguity in the wording,...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:41 PM
Nov 2025
that it would take an ammendment to change that"


There was nothing "ambiguous" about this -

18th Amendment

Amendment XVIII

Section 1.

After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.

Section 2.

The Congress and the several states shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

(snip)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxviii


that lead to this -

21st Amendment

Amendment XXI

Section 1.


The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

(snip)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxi

BumRushDaShow

(168,202 posts)
9. I am interpreting what you said
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:04 PM
Nov 2025

with it not requiring an amendment to change it based on the explicit language (and I would agree). But I am showing how they have done an amendment to repeal a previous amendment and if the SCOTUS starts cherry-picking and giving out hints, or even throws out the 14th Amendment, then there's a whole convoluted process that would be needed to put it back, which might not happen, and we're screwed.

AZJonnie

(3,457 posts)
5. Wait, "if neither parent WAS"? Is this fuckhead trying to do this RETROACTIVELY?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:24 PM
Nov 2025

Or is this just unclear wording by the author? SCOTUS cannot possibly strip millions of people's citizenship with the stroke of 5 pens, can they?!? Leave them all with citizenship NOWHERE?

I mean, obviously the idea that it's Constitutional even moving forward w/o a new amendment is ludicrous given the clear wording of the amendment but I cannot even fathom doing it retroactively.

Although, that might be SCOTUS's only avenue to give the Mango Menace what he wants, because they'd probably have to (arbitrarily) rule that the enforcement of the amendment all along was due to flawed interpretation and that therefore would imply that what was done in the past is null and void (similar to the tariff conundrum).

I cannot believe this is a serious question/case before them that they are considering

AZJonnie

(3,457 posts)
14. Even so, I'm not sure the SCOTUS can give it a go-ahead without it declaring it applies retroactively
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 06:27 PM
Nov 2025

Because I'd imagine the only way they could allow the EO is by declaring that the 14th Amendment simply doesn't apply to a specific class of people, due to an ongoing historical misinterpretation. Which could mean that it cannot just be applied only to people born in the future. I would guess it's either rejected as unconstitutional (as it should be) or literally everyone born here w/o at least one parent being a citizen or natural-born citizen at the time of birth would become no longer a citizen. But I'm not a lawyer, so ... this is just my worry.

reACTIONary

(7,116 posts)
20. There are multiple "practical" problems with this EO....
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:07 PM
Nov 2025

.... and you have hit on one that I haven't heard mentioned as yet. So this conundrum, what to do about all those already citizens, would be another thorn in the foot that might help keep the justices from hobbling in that direction.

I hope.

PSPS

(15,289 posts)
7. "meeting in private"
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:44 PM
Nov 2025

The way the corrupt supreme court justices roll is this:

1. Determine what you want the decision to be.
2. Compare that to what the law says now.
3. Discard any stare decisis.
4. Without breaking your back, make up a convoluted "opinion" that somehow "justifies" your move from #2 to #1 regardless of its embarrassing lack of legal merit. Feel free to throw in bible verses.
5. Collect that bag with your name and a large dollar sign on it when you retire to your home-bound bullet-proof limousine with its armed guards.

AZJonnie

(3,457 posts)
15. Oh, and maybe include a quote published in 1512, from the Vice-Mayor of West Bumfuckshire, England
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 06:36 PM
Nov 2025

turbinetree

(27,361 posts)
10. Well............. the maga 6 might have to look in the mirror and ask if there relatives were immigrants................
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:22 PM
Nov 2025

cstanleytech

(28,376 posts)
11. It's pretty simple. A change like this takes a constitutional amendment just like the second amendment regarding guns.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:29 PM
Nov 2025

Shipwack

(3,040 posts)
16. We've seen this game before.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 07:34 PM
Nov 2025

One state declined to have Trump on the ballot because he was accused of insurrection. The language was plain and unambiguous.

The Supremes decided that since the amendment wasn’t written well enough, it could be disregarded.

I’m ready for a repeat. They might even copy/paste most of the previous decision to save time.

Shipwack

(3,040 posts)
19. Thanks! Forgot about that part.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:17 PM
Nov 2025

The Supremes rule so that only their guy gets a deal. See also “Bush v.Gore”.

If Trump running for a third term was brought before them, they would find a way to let Trump run, but not Obama.

Cirsium

(3,797 posts)
18. Virtually all of us
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:53 PM
Nov 2025

300+ million people are US citizens by virtue of having been born in the US. How can they strip all of those people of citizenship? It is absurd that it is even an issue.

mdbl

(8,467 posts)
21. What a bunch of asswipes
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 08:26 AM
Nov 2025

They could have just rejected it out of plain ignorance of the Constitution.

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