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blue-wave

(5,130 posts)
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 04:51 AM Nov 2025

And Russia has already rejected

the European and Ukraine revisions. Russia is repeating the same plays that they pulled earlier this year. Putin and the kremlin don't want to stop the war. The Russian economy, even though it's presently collapsing, will collapse more quickly if the war stops. Russia's economy is on a war footing. Every industry and business that is needed for the war effort is being used and funded at the expense of everyone else. If the war stops, many war footing businesses will go belly up. Whenever the Russian economic crash occurs, it will likely mean the end of the present regime.

The Kremlin has rejected European counterproposals to a controversial US peace plan for Ukraine that heavily favoured Russia, even as Kyiv and Washington praised “highly productive” talks on the issue ahead of a Thursday deadline for agreement set by US president Donald Trump.

Moscow’s response on Monday threw prospects for a breakthrough into deeper doubt, amid indications that key elements of the European initiative had been incorporated in a revised peace plan drawn up at Sunday’s talks in Geneva between officials from the US, Ukraine and Europe.


https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2025/11/24/russia-rejects-european-input-into-peace-proposals-as-us-and-ukraine-praise-progress/

BTW, Ukraine has given Russia nothing. What they did was take away many of the absurd maximalist demands from the Russian authored surrender plan.

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