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speak easy

(12,551 posts)
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:48 AM Wednesday

Trump Calls Affordability a 'Con Job' as His Edge on the Economy Slips

Source: New York Times

President Trump is growing frustrated as Americans struggle with higher prices and pessimism over the state of the economy.

President Trump on Tuesday downplayed the cost-of-living pains being felt by Americans, declaring that affordability “doesn’t mean anything to anybody” as his political edge on the economy continues to dissipate.

In remarks during a cabinet meeting, Mr. Trump railed against Democrats who have championed the issue, which helped the party secure several off-year election victories last month and is likely to be a defining topic in the midterms next year.

After ticking off what he claimed were trillions of dollars of investments and other economic accomplishments, Mr. Trump called the issue of affordability a “fake narrative” and “con job” created by Democrats to dupe the public.

“They just say the word,” he said. “It doesn’t mean anything to anybody. They just say it — affordability. I inherited the worst inflation in history. There was no affordability. Nobody could afford anything.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/02/us/politics/trump-affordability-economy-messaging.html



Affordability "doesn’t mean anything to anybody." Keep saying it Donald, loud and clear, as often as possible.
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Trump Calls Affordability a 'Con Job' as His Edge on the Economy Slips (Original Post) speak easy Wednesday OP
I'm looking forward to a trip to the grocery store this BOSSHOG Wednesday #1
MAGATs will be making scenes at grocery store check-outs hadEnuf Wednesday #2
Who are you going to believe? Your lying eyes or me? Jacson6 Wednesday #3
He had an "edge" on the economy??? joshdawg Wednesday #4
Gotta love that corporate media! robbob Wednesday #37
It was so legitimate that he was going to lower prices on day one. Norrrm Wednesday #5
Inherited The Worst Inflation In History?!?! GB_RN Wednesday #6
He inherited an inflation rate of 3.0% in January 2025. subterranean Wednesday #10
Heating oil was 17 cents a gallon in the fall of 73. By March of 74 it was more than a dollar. twodogsbarking Wednesday #11
Annual Inflation by Year since 1929 Wiz Imp Wednesday #15
Source belpejic Wednesday #53
It's from the CPI From BLS but I found it preformatted like this Wiz Imp Wednesday #54
Many of us on DU remember the 1970s stagflation. yardwork Wednesday #28
I Was A Kid At The Time... GB_RN Wednesday #44
Yes. Our first car had an 18% interest rate. yardwork Wednesday #47
Here's what has gone up for me this year, and at higher rates than inflation: NCDem47 Wednesday #7
Insurance and local taxes are through the roof. yardwork Wednesday #29
If Trump says good morning it is probably midnight. twodogsbarking Wednesday #8
Contradicts himself in the same breath... sop Wednesday #9
That POS spews daily how "energy prices have gone down" Really Trump? We have Evergy in Kansas Bengus81 Wednesday #12
That's why I moved back to Tucson this Spring. ChazInAz Wednesday #30
Good move. All Evergy cares about is larger dividend payments (.69 per share now) and keeping Bengus81 Wednesday #32
Evergy victim here, too! slightlv Wednesday #35
yup, that's the thing these days Skittles Wednesday #49
Trump says, "Everyone who gives me millions of dollars says the economy is great". twodogsbarking Wednesday #13
MAGA Mango Mussolini is a walking pile of fake narrative words gohuskies Wednesday #14
The Make-Believe World of Trump 2na fisherman Wednesday #17
gah AllaN01Bear Wednesday #16
He has never a day in his life had to go without a meal, worry about keeping a roof or paying for essentials, kimbutgar Wednesday #18
yes Skittles Wednesday #50
That's because he knows if he says it's a con his rubes will believe him ChicagoTeamster Wednesday #19
Trump is irritated that people are asking for his help Prairie Gates Wednesday #20
Suck it up you losers. Stop whining IronLionZion Wednesday #21
Hey shit for brains who is paying for your breakfast in the white house.........well the taxpayers are....while we have turbinetree Wednesday #22
Tell that to the $2 grapefruit in the produce department. Not a bag of grapefruit. One grapefruit. Vinca Wednesday #23
Dude doesn't set foot in a grocery store or eat much produce IronLionZion Wednesday #25
"but maybe McDonalds prices" speak easy Wednesday #31
Yup, he even spoke at the McDonalds conference on Nov 18 IronLionZion Wednesday #41
I have other ideas speak easy Wednesday #42
WE All Know (Even Some Maggots!) That "It Doesn't Mean Anything to Anybody" is Trump's Desperate The Roux Comes First Wednesday #24
Orange outside although full of shit inside. Conundrums abound. oasis Wednesday #26
His affluent followers won't care about what he says, but... yardwork Wednesday #27
Con-man from hell says what? Nt BootinUp Wednesday #33
I guess a Con Man would know a Con Job when he sees one. maxsolomon Wednesday #34
Of course, its all Biden's fault Bayard Wednesday #36
What "political edge"? When did this guy have a "political edge" on the economy? Escurumbele Wednesday #38
He had a slight edge last year just because he wasn't the incumbent. subterranean Wednesday #40
Spoken by a person who was given and is now stealing all the money he has ever "had". efhmc Wednesday #39
No, no, no. It is a "Don Job". It is true but not favorable. twodogsbarking Wednesday #43
This message was self-deleted by its author bmichaelh Wednesday #45
Hey, Pedonald, MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #46
Didn't just a day or two ago . . . Scubamatt Wednesday #48
Inflation Was 2.9% In 2024 ProfessorGAC Wednesday #51
That's nice maybe now trumpers will hear him Figarosmom Wednesday #52
In 2024, Trump campaigned on affordability. Said he was going to lower prices on day one. Norrrm Wednesday #55

BOSSHOG

(44,303 posts)
1. I'm looking forward to a trip to the grocery store this
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:57 AM
Wednesday

Morning to be conned as I shop for the local food pantry.

hadEnuf

(3,490 posts)
2. MAGATs will be making scenes at grocery store check-outs
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:15 AM
Wednesday

demanding that they be charged more because affordability is a hoax.

joshdawg

(2,912 posts)
4. He had an "edge" on the economy???
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:37 AM
Wednesday

If you call destroying the economy faster than any President, living or dead, then yeah, he has an "edge."
For the good of the country, he needs to disappear, I care not how.

robbob

(3,737 posts)
37. Gotta love that corporate media!
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 01:15 PM
Wednesday

Spinning things faster then that guy with the plates on Ed Sullivan…🙄

Norrrm

(3,668 posts)
5. It was so legitimate that he was going to lower prices on day one.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:38 AM
Wednesday

Is there a list of the prices lowered on day one?

GB_RN

(3,489 posts)
6. Inherited The Worst Inflation In History?!?!
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:46 AM
Wednesday

Umm. No.

The worst single year for U.S. inflation was 1917, with a year-over-year peak of 17.8%, driven by World War I spending. However, the most painful and prolonged period of high inflation was the "Great Inflation" from 1973–1982, marked by high inflation rates and a series of oil shocks. Another significant period of high inflation occurred in the years immediately following World War I, culminating in a peak of 23.7% in June 1920. *


As usual, Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent shows how ignorant he is, or, is flat out lying his corpulent ass off. And I won’t discount the possibility of it being both.

*Quoted from a summary of information from Barrow Insurance Group and Yahoo Finance.

subterranean

(3,738 posts)
10. He inherited an inflation rate of 3.0% in January 2025.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:07 AM
Wednesday

Exactly the same as it is now.

twodogsbarking

(17,172 posts)
11. Heating oil was 17 cents a gallon in the fall of 73. By March of 74 it was more than a dollar.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:08 AM
Wednesday

Many houses lacked insulation. Thanks for the accurated post.

Wiz Imp

(8,455 posts)
15. Annual Inflation by Year since 1929
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:30 AM
Wednesday
Year | Inflation Rate YOY | Business Cycle*
1929 | 0.60% | August peak
1930 | -6.40% | Contraction (-8.5%)
1931 | -9.30% | Contraction (-6.4%)
1932 | -10.30% | Contraction (-12.9%)
1933 | 0.80% | Contraction ended in March (-1.2%)
1934 | 1.50% | Expansion (10.8%)
1935 | 3.00% | Expansion (8.9%)
1936 | 1.40% | Expansion (12.9%)
1937 | 2.90% | Expansion peaked in May (5.1%)
1938 | -2.80% | Contraction ended in June (-3.3%)
1939 | 0.00% | Expansion (8.0%)
1940 | 0.70% | Expansion (8.8%)
1941 | 9.90% | Expansion (17.7%)
1942 | 9.00% | Expansion (18.9%)
1943 | 3.00% | Expansion (17.0%)
1944 | 2.30% | Expansion (7.9%)
1945 | 2.20% | February peak, October trough (-1.0%)
1946 | 18.10% | Contraction (-11.6%)
1947 | 8.80% | Contraction (-1.1%)
1948 | 3.00% | November peak (4.1%)
1949 | -2.10% | October trough (-0.6%)
1950 | 5.90% | Expansion (8.7%)
1951 | 6.00% | Expansion (8.0%)
1952 | 0.80% | Expansion (4.1%)
1953 | 0.70% | July peak (4.7%)
1954 | -0.70% | May trough (-0.6%)
1955 | 0.40% | Expansion (7.1%)
1956 | 3.00% | Expansion (2.1%)
1957 | 2.90% | August peak (2.1%)
1958 | 1.80% | April trough (-0.7%)
1959 | 1.70% | Expansion (6.9%)
1960 | 1.40% | April peak (2.6%)
1961 | 0.70% | February trough (2.6%)
1962 | 1.30% | Expansion (6.1%)
1963 | 1.60% | Expansion (4.4%)
1964 | 1.00% | Expansion (5.8%)
1965 | 1.90% | Expansion (6.5%)
1966 | 3.50% | Expansion (6.6%)
1967 | 3.00% | Expansion (2.7%)
1968 | 4.70% | Expansion (4.9%)
1969 | 6.20% | December peak (3.1%)
1970 | 5.60% | November trough (0.2%)
1971 | 3.30% | Expansion (3.3%)
1972 | 3.40% | Expansion (5.3%)
1973 | 8.70% | November peak (5.6%)
1974 | 12.30% | Contraction (-0.5%)
1975 | 6.90% | March trough (-0.2%)
1976 | 4.90% | Expansion (5.4%)
1977 | 6.70% | Expansion (4.6%)
1978 | 9.00% | Expansion (5.5%)
1979 | 13.3% | Expansion (3.2%)
1980 | 12.50% | January peak (-0.3%)
1981 | 8.90% | July trough (2.5%)
1982 | 3.80% | Contraction (-1.8%)
1983 | 3.80% | Expansion (4.6%)
1984 | 3.90% | Expansion (7.2%)
1985 | 3.80% | Expansion (4.2%)
1986 | 1.10% | Expansion (3.5%)
1987 | 4.40% | Expansion (3.5%)
1988 | 4.40% | Expansion (4.2%)
1989 | 4.60% | Expansion (3.7%)
1990 | 6.10% | July peak (1.9%)
1991 | 3.10% | March trough (-0.1%)
1992 | 2.90% | Expansion (3.5%)
1993 | 2.70% | Expansion (2.7%)
1994 | 2.70% | Expansion (4.0%)
1995 | 2.50% | Expansion (2.7%)
1996 | 3.30% | Expansion (3.8%)
1997 | 1.70% | Expansion (4.4%)
1998 | 1.60% | Expansion (4.5%)
1999 | 2.70% | Expansion (4.8%)
2000 | 3.40% | Expansion (4.1%)
2001 | 1.60% | March peak, November trough (1.0%)
2002 | 2.40% | Expansion (1.7%)
2003 | 1.90% | Expansion (2.8%)
2004 | 3.30% | Expansion (3.8%)
2005 | 3.40% | Expansion (3.5%)
2006 | 2.50% | Expansion (2.8%)
2007 | 4.10% | December peak (2.0%)
2008 | 0.10% | Expansion (0.1%)
2009 | 2.70% | June trough (-2.6%)
2010 | 1.50% | Expansion (2.7%)
2011 | 3.00% | Expansion (1.6%)
2012 | 1.70% | Expansion (2.3%)
2013 | 1.50% | Expansion (2.1%)
2014 | 0.80% | Expansion (2.5%)
2015 | 0.70% | Expansion (2.9%)
2016 | 2.10% | Expansion (1.8%)
2017 | 2.10% | Expansion (2.5%)
2018 | 1.90% | Expansion (3.0%)
2019 | 2.30% | Expansion (2.5%)
2020 | 1.40% | Contraction (-2.2%)
2021 | 7.00% | Expansion (5.8%)
2022 | 6.50% | Expansion (1.9%)
2023 | 3.40% | Expansion (2.5%)
2024 | 2.90% | Expansion (2.8%)

For the period 1973 thru 1981, the annualized inflation rate was over 8%. That's over 8% for almost an entire decade straight. The highest for a single year under Biden was 7%.


belpejic

(770 posts)
53. Source
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 06:56 PM
Wednesday

That's really interesting information, and thank you for sharing. It's no surprise that Dear Leader lies, bigly. Would mind providing the source for this data?

yardwork

(68,756 posts)
28. Many of us on DU remember the 1970s stagflation.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:22 AM
Wednesday

We also remember the cruelly high interest rates that followed. Those of us buying our first cars and homes in the early-mid 1980s remember that well.

GB_RN

(3,489 posts)
44. I Was A Kid At The Time...
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 03:26 PM
Wednesday

But I remember it from the news back when ABC, CBS and NBC had actual news and reporters, and weren’t just infotainment garbage.

My parents borrowed money from my great grandmother, so they could buy a new car which would accommodate all of us. My parents talked about interest rates being 17-19% or so. Makes me shudder.

NCDem47

(3,272 posts)
7. Here's what has gone up for me this year, and at higher rates than inflation:
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:02 AM
Wednesday

Health insurance
Auto Insurance
Home Insurance
Groceries
Utlities
Fees, Fees, Fees (pick your boogeyman--banks, state government, local government)

Income has NOT kept pace.

Sorry Donald, you can't bullshit me.

sop

(17,103 posts)
9. Contradicts himself in the same breath...
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:06 AM
Wednesday

Calls affordability a fake narrative and con job created by Democrats to dupe the public, then he says there was no affordability, that nobody could afford anything.

Bengus81

(9,648 posts)
12. That POS spews daily how "energy prices have gone down" Really Trump? We have Evergy in Kansas
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:09 AM
Wednesday

and Missouri. They just nailed us with a 9.6% increase starting Oct 1st. It will be a hot fucker in this house next summer with bills that will be more unaffordable than the ones we had then.

ChazInAz

(2,982 posts)
30. That's why I moved back to Tucson this Spring.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:42 AM
Wednesday

I lived in a 140 year old brick church in Atchison that I'd converted into a theater. At over 3000 square feet it was a beast to heat and cool. At the beginning of the year I received notices that all of my utilities and taxes were going up.
The place got sold and I came back home to Tucson. Now I'm in a mobile home retirement community in a suburb where taxes are microscopic and utilities are reasonable.

Bengus81

(9,648 posts)
32. Good move. All Evergy cares about is larger dividend payments (.69 per share now) and keeping
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:09 PM
Wednesday

the CEO dragging down $7M per year while the rest of us suffer. I've NEVER seen an increase like this one with any utility and it went down with the blessing of the KCC.

Dividends should be fucking illegal for utility companies.

slightlv

(7,184 posts)
35. Evergy victim here, too!
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:57 PM
Wednesday

My opinion, after living nearly 70 years, is that NO utility should be privately owned. They should all be publicly owned, operated, and rates set via the government. Of course, lately, in KS that wouldn't have helped us a whole lot...

This month I've had to pay property taxes, insurance on two (barely running) cars, and several medical bills of my husband's previous trip to the ER and then to EMS to ship him to an actual hospital... since they've closed down the two hospitals we used to have here. My car has no heat, sounds like a teenager took out the baffles, and will just have to make due 'cause no one is going to sell us anything better. SS doesn't go that far... but the private utilities and companies just keep upping their prices. I thought I'd have maybe two months to dig us out of this last hole, but I just brought hubby home from the hospital yesterday, so I'm expecting more medical bills within the next 2 months. It never ends.

Skittles

(168,890 posts)
49. yup, that's the thing these days
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 06:19 PM
Wednesday

even if you stay afloat, you cannot seem to get ahead

twodogsbarking

(17,172 posts)
13. Trump says, "Everyone who gives me millions of dollars says the economy is great".
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:10 AM
Wednesday

That I could believe.

gohuskies

(1,215 posts)
14. MAGA Mango Mussolini is a walking pile of fake narrative words
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:18 AM
Wednesday

Hoax, Fake News, Antifa etc etc...

2na fisherman

(195 posts)
17. The Make-Believe World of Trump
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:41 AM
Wednesday

It's so true what you say about his fake words. He's like the Wizard of Oz. Soon he will be saying, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."
And he really said, "Who can figure out the true meaning of covfefe?"

kimbutgar

(26,576 posts)
18. He has never a day in his life had to go without a meal, worry about keeping a roof or paying for essentials,
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:50 AM
Wednesday

Not being able to pay for health care or if his car broke down he doesn’t have money to pay for it. He is so out of touch with the majority of Americans.

Skittles

(168,890 posts)
50. yes
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 06:21 PM
Wednesday

and he's literally never been grocery shopping in his entire life - he does not understand how often we shop, and how price-savvy we are

ChicagoTeamster

(297 posts)
19. That's because he knows if he says it's a con his rubes will believe him
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:51 AM
Wednesday

Look at how they'll buy his sneakers, bibles, watches, and now phones but no, COVID was a hoax, so is global climate change to them, oh and vaccines are dangerous.

Prairie Gates

(6,967 posts)
20. Trump is irritated that people are asking for his help
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:53 AM
Wednesday

He thought being President again would be just about getting revenge on his enemies, blowing up boats and other stuff, and making men in suits cower before you through extortion and blackmail.

He forgot that even the most derelict mafiosi have to take care of the local village.

turbinetree

(26,834 posts)
22. Hey shit for brains who is paying for your breakfast in the white house.........well the taxpayers are....while we have
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:06 AM
Wednesday

to buy our own groceries........don't you get that warm treasonous feeling of just plain fucking over people is so much fun in your demented brain..........when it comes to affordability..........in fact you get your health care paid for by taxpayers (when they gave you the cognitive test did they tell you to draw a clock and number it and then put arms the clock to make it 3 pm/am) or did you get someone to do it for you for affordability.....while we have to double dip into our pockets to pay for ours and yours, you do do realize that shit for brains...........in fact you get $400,000 a year to be a immunity laden traitor from your maga senate not once but twice and maga US Supreme Court 6 to go and play golf which has cost the taxpayers $17 million dollars worth of golf..............and then you go on tv and tell everyone that you won the club championship..........yet again......why are you not on LVII golf tour with your buddies..................

Vinca

(53,114 posts)
23. Tell that to the $2 grapefruit in the produce department. Not a bag of grapefruit. One grapefruit.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:11 AM
Wednesday

Near the $1.79 red pepper, $5.99 blueberries (small container) and $8 half rotten strawberries.

IronLionZion

(50,552 posts)
25. Dude doesn't set foot in a grocery store or eat much produce
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:12 AM
Wednesday

but maybe McDonalds prices

speak easy

(12,551 posts)
31. "but maybe McDonalds prices"
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:44 AM
Wednesday

Which is why he has been pressuring McDonald's to roll out more value meals

IronLionZion

(50,552 posts)
41. Yup, he even spoke at the McDonalds conference on Nov 18
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 02:24 PM
Wednesday

he talked about how much he loves their food but they should put more tartar sauce on his filet o fish.

Dude left out how his tariffs and mass deportations impact prices.

speak easy

(12,551 posts)
42. I have other ideas
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 02:30 PM
Wednesday

about what (non-lethal) 'sauces' McDonald's could put on his fillet o fish.

The Roux Comes First

(2,062 posts)
24. WE All Know (Even Some Maggots!) That "It Doesn't Mean Anything to Anybody" is Trump's Desperate
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:11 AM
Wednesday

Alternative for "I can't spell it"!

yardwork

(68,756 posts)
27. His affluent followers won't care about what he says, but...
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:19 AM
Wednesday

The ordinary Americans who vote their pocketbooks don't care what any politician says about the economy - they care what they have to pay in the checkout line.

We saw this in 2024 when a lot of voters angrily rejected Kamala Harris's cheerful assurances that Bidenomics was working. (It was working - but not fast or well enough for a lot of voters.)

Trump can say or do anything but in the end a lot of Americans don't pay much attention and don't really care what politicians say - whether it's good (Biden) or atrocious (Trump). They care what they're paying.

maxsolomon

(38,011 posts)
34. I guess a Con Man would know a Con Job when he sees one.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:25 PM
Wednesday

As usual: every accusation is a confession.

President Bullshit Artist.

Bayard

(28,130 posts)
36. Of course, its all Biden's fault
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 01:04 PM
Wednesday

That's all MAGAts have to hear. Egg prices coming down because bird flu getting under control, but trump takes credit for it, while healthcare costs double.

Escurumbele

(3,985 posts)
38. What "political edge"? When did this guy have a "political edge" on the economy?
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 01:29 PM
Wednesday

The USA has gone mad, it really has.

subterranean

(3,738 posts)
40. He had a slight edge last year just because he wasn't the incumbent.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 02:14 PM
Wednesday

Or closely connected to the incumbent, as Kamala Harris was.

efhmc

(15,987 posts)
39. Spoken by a person who was given and is now stealing all the money he has ever "had".
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 01:31 PM
Wednesday

Never lived on a budget. Never tried to figure out if you or your family had the money for any basic needs, much less new glasses or shoes. Much less frivolities like clothes, heating, doctors' and dentist's visits. You who have had to live with a junk heap of a car until you had the means to get something better know what "affordability" means. It is very real.

Response to speak easy (Original post)

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,332 posts)
46. Hey, Pedonald,
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 03:50 PM
Wednesday

I 100% agree with you, so, please, keep on message, it's a sure winner for the 2026 midterms and the 2028 Presidential Election.
I'm fully on board with this messaging.

Scubamatt

(248 posts)
48. Didn't just a day or two ago . . .
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 05:45 PM
Wednesday

he claim that he wanted to be "the Affordability President"? No wonder this dud needs multiple MRIs!

ProfessorGAC

(75,513 posts)
51. Inflation Was 2.9% In 2024
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 06:24 PM
Wednesday

It is now 3.1%.
He inherited bad inflation?
No, that was Biden & Obama and they fixed it! They didn't make it worse.

Figarosmom

(9,343 posts)
52. That's nice maybe now trumpers will hear him
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 06:31 PM
Wednesday

Loud and clear. If they can't afford to live it's just a hoax.

Norrrm

(3,668 posts)
55. In 2024, Trump campaigned on affordability. Said he was going to lower prices on day one.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:58 PM
Wednesday

Wonder if there is a list of things he lowered the price?



Short list. He has increased the national debt even more.

BIGLY

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