Sonia Sotomayor silences Supreme Court chamber with blistering challenge to Trump lawyer
Source: Raw Story
December 9, 2025 2:05PM ET
An exchange between Justice Sonia Sotomayor and Donald Trump's Solicitor General D. John Sauer briefly silenced the U.S. Supreme Court chamber Tuesday.
Sauer argued in Trump v. Slaughter a case that could redefine the limits of presidential power over independent agencies and give the Trump more authority to fire officials that the Constitution vests full removal authority in the president and that a 90-year precedent insulating officials inside those agencies should be discarded showing how far the government intended to take the challenge, reported Newsweek.
Youre asking us to destroy the structure of government and to take away from Congress its ability to protect its idea that the government is better structured with some agencies that are independent, Sotomayor said. Justice Samuel Alito asked Sauer to respond, and he assured the court that overturning the Humphreys Executor precedent allowing President Donald Trump to fire independent agency leaders would not fundamentally reshape the government.
The sky will not fall, Sauer said. The entire government will move toward accountability to the people.
Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-v-slaughter-2674383338/
No but the U.S. WILL fall.
FakeNoose
(39,803 posts)Chump wants to remove the constitutional powers of oversight from Congress ... and piss it all away!
KS Toronado
(22,574 posts)liberalla
(10,752 posts).
OldBaldy1701E
(9,812 posts)Hoping that this current Supreme Court will rule correctly is even more frightening.
Still no treason arrests and still no Epstein files, I see.
Ponietz
(4,218 posts)mpcamb
(3,172 posts)One was a statesman who brought the country thru a depression and a war.
The other caused a depression and is itching to start a war.
tavernier
(14,154 posts)That there is real legal eagle talk. He could have added, a penny saved is a penny earned. Or perhaps, different strokes for different folks. Or the ever popular, let a smile be your umbrella.
But I guess it doesnt matter. Our justice system was sold to the highest bidder and Roberts and company will give them whatever they want. They dont really even have to send a wanna-be lawyer to represent HRH.
malaise
(291,767 posts)Important
markodochartaigh
(4,791 posts)will learn about Justice Sotomayor's stand here as they tour the Museum of Travesties and Horrors in the repurposed Epstein Memorial Ballroom. They will be forced to face the failures of their parents and hear that there were those who stood strong against them.
Solly Mack
(96,239 posts)Snort
eppur_se_muova
(40,710 posts)Solly Mack
(96,239 posts)Uncle Joe
(63,930 posts)Thanks for the thread BumRushDaShow
Dan
(4,915 posts)It sort of explains the Russian peoples response to Hitler's invasion during WW2 - they met the German soldiers (initially) with Salt and Bread.
yorkster
(3,618 posts)And Sotomayor is a legal lioness.
ChicagoTeamster
(304 posts)angrychair
(11,612 posts)What they are asking for is partisan appointments that serve at the feet of a president. This will send regulations into a tailspin because those agencies will work only to serve the whims of a president, which is NOT always in the best interest of the people because sometimes even a president's agenda isn't always of their own making or control.
flashman13
(1,876 posts)The president's job is to execute the will of the people as expressed through the Congress. The president is not the government.
Irish_Dem
(78,752 posts)And psychopaths in power use every trick in the book to steal and retain money and power.
onenote
(45,933 posts)First, during an oral argument, the Supreme Court chamber is always deathly silent unless someone makes a joke, in which case you might hear some chuckles. But rarely.
Second, I listened to the argument and the amount of time between Sotomayor's statement and Sauer's response was approximately one second. You can check it out by listening to the argument online at https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2025/25-332 at around the 2:23:35 mark.
To be absolutely clear, I am not in any way, shape or from disparaging Sotomayor's argument, which is spot on. But Raw Story's claim that it somehow "silenced" the chamber is hyperbolic nonsense.
BumRushDaShow
(164,531 posts)1.) other news sites
2.) social media
3.) "guest" writers from news/blog sites
4.) their own staff actually watching any programming and/or monitoring events and publishing summaries
Newsweek had pretty much the identical "take" - Sonia Sotomayors Remarks Silence Supreme Court
I was originally going to use that but I don't like to have the same source multiple times in a row (had posted something from Newsweek earlier) or within too short a timeframe, and prefer to find a variety of sources for the same story.
Dismissing them because of their somewhat "tabloid style" headlines is a mistake because the current so-called "mainstream media" is now almost totally compromised, offering "bribes" and "quid pro quos" to stay in the favor of 45. So we are going to have to broaden our perspectives to find alternates to actually find out what is going on because those other, formally "trusted" sources, are either going to "catch and kill" the story or will delay reporting on it (either by claiming a "publication date/time" but not actually linking to it on their websites until a day or more later), or will skew it.
onenote
(45,933 posts)It says that the point at which Sauer "paused' before responding to Sotomayor was when she said What youre saying is the president can do more than the law permits. That is true to the extent that Sauer was "silent" for around four seconds before he responded. But that occurred nearly 25 minutes AFTER the exchange Raw Story claims "silenced" the chamber.
I've attended a lot of Supreme Court arguments. I've never argued a case myself, but I'm a member of the Supreme Court bar, have participated in drafting petitions for certiorari, merits briefs, amicus briefs, etc. What I heard in listening to over two hours of the argument in the Slaughter case was not much different than what I've heard in any number of cases -- "sharp exchanges" are not uncommon at all.
BumRushDaShow
(164,531 posts)(I recall listening to the Bush v. Gore one)
I would think that in general, a courtroom is generally "quiet" (I sat on a jury last year myself and it only got raucous at the very end when the defendant's family started cheering when we acquitted the guy, and the judge had to get control). But I expect given the gravity of the situation and her remark, they chose to characterize and punctuate what she said.