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BumRushDaShow

(165,894 posts)
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 11:52 AM 6 hrs ago

Border czar says ICE shooting victim's actions 'could fall within that definition' of domestic terrorism

Source: NBC News

Jan. 11, 2026, 10:20 AM EST


WASHINGTON — Border czar Tom Homan weighed in on Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s allegations that the ICE shooting victim was engaged in “domestic terrorism,” telling NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that “if you look up this definition of terrorism, it certainly could fall within that definition.”

Shortly after an Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer shot and killed Renee Nicole Good last week, Noem painted Good’s actions as “an act of domestic terrorism,” though she did not provide evidence. Asked on “Meet the Press” whether Noem was correct to label Good a domestic terrorist, Homan said, “I don’t know what Secretary Noem knows.”

“What I know, I can tell you is what they did is illegal,” he continued. “And if you look up this definition of terrorism, it certainly could fall within that definition.” Several White House officials, including President Donald Trump and Noem, claimed that Good was trying to run over an officer, but those allegations were thrown into question by videos and eyewitnesses.

Pressed further on whether the administration had evidence to support Noem’s claims, Homan reiterated that “I don’t know what secretary has that I don’t.” “I’m not going to judge what the secretary says, but if you look up the definition of terrorism, it certainly can fall within that,” he said

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/border-czar-ice-shooting-victim-actions-domestic-terrorism-minneapolis-rcna253425



It's all pretzel-twisting bullshit. They KNOW they are wrong. In the past, the GOP loons have demanded "anti-government screeds" and other stuff for "domestic terrorism" and even whined about there really being no "definition" because in their minds, the only "terrorism" was "foreign terrorism" against Americans.

They would only dub a (white) American (male) a "Lone Wolf" - like that scumbag who killed almost 60 and injured over 800 people in Las Vegas during 45's first term, but would not call him a"domestic terrorist". They wouldn't even call the KKK "domestic terrorists".

After the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, OK, they (GOP) insisted on looking for "foreigners" and not anyone "domestic" (and this is just after the GOP took control of the House after 40 years of having no control over that chamber).

But their BIGGEST omission was the Jan. 6 TERRORISTS/INSURRECTIONISTS who stormed the U.S. Capitol to try to delay and overturn the 2020 election, threatening to HANG the VP, and kill the Speaker of the House, forced members of Congress, their staff, and Capitol employees to flee, and attacked the LEO who were there trying to protect those within the building. They were subsequently pardoned.
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Border czar says ICE shooting victim's actions 'could fall within that definition' of domestic terrorism (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 6 hrs ago OP
they keep digging moonshinegnomie 6 hrs ago #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Blues Heron 6 hrs ago #2
They are stretching the concept of terrorism to Pluto and back. Gaslighting on an astronomical scale Blues Heron 6 hrs ago #3
By his loose definition sboatcar 6 hrs ago #4
Look, Ross is 18-42 steps away from the Office of the Presidency underpants 5 hrs ago #5
Yes their definition changed as soon as they got the power. Klarkashton 5 hrs ago #6
He obviously never read the legal defiition. sinkingfeeling 5 hrs ago #7
He wants the idiots he profits from to believe the J6 insurrectionists Justice matters. 5 hrs ago #11
Sure it can -- since you control the "definition." n/t malthaussen 5 hrs ago #8
What counts as terrorism? Telling the ICE goon she didn't blame him, the stuffed animals or the family dog? Vinca 5 hrs ago #9
They would shove us all in gas chambers Mysterian 5 hrs ago #10
We better get the House and Senate back in November wolfie001 5 hrs ago #12
These monsters think if they keep lying their asses off they will win. But the majority of Americans knows what they Martin68 5 hrs ago #13
Czars should be sent to Russia IronLionZion 5 hrs ago #14
Hey, Homan... Mawspam2 4 hrs ago #15
to fascists, civil disobedience is domestic terrorism Skittles 4 hrs ago #16
IOW, "protest" is not a "First Amendment" right and is "domestic terrorism" BumRushDaShow 4 hrs ago #17
well, not exactly Skittles 2 hrs ago #19
"I'm not mad at you" is "terrorism"? valleyrogue 4 hrs ago #18

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Blues Heron

(8,401 posts)
3. They are stretching the concept of terrorism to Pluto and back. Gaslighting on an astronomical scale
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 12:11 PM
6 hrs ago

All to cover up their domestic terror operation

underpants

(195,007 posts)
5. Look, Ross is 18-42 steps away from the Office of the Presidency
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 12:26 PM
5 hrs ago

and that’s any President. Trump thinks anything anywhere negative is tied to him and more importantly to him he thinks that everyone thinks so because everyone MUST be as obsessed with him as he is.

In a much less lethal way (luckily) is the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case. The lawyer who admitted that a mistake was made HAD to be fired. They’ve stayed on Garcia mercilessly even though Costa Rica offered an easy resolution. An example must be made out of Garcia. Trump can’t admit a mistake so in this case the mistake must be punished.

This is the same. The guy made a horrible mistake. Just start the investigation and show that he has accountability but NO down the line they have to protect Trump.

sinkingfeeling

(57,252 posts)
7. He obviously never read the legal defiition.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 12:35 PM
5 hrs ago
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220925173

What is the legal definition of domestic terrorism? Answer is this:
18 USC 2331: Definitions

(5) the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that-

(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

(B) appear to be intended-

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and


(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States; and

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IMO, it seems to fit Noem's ICE more than it does Renee Good.

Justice matters.

(9,417 posts)
11. He wants the idiots he profits from to believe the J6 insurrectionists
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 12:43 PM
5 hrs ago

were just peaceful tourists on tour to visit the Capitol.

See what utter constant bullshitting we're all subjected to...

Vinca

(53,369 posts)
9. What counts as terrorism? Telling the ICE goon she didn't blame him, the stuffed animals or the family dog?
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 12:39 PM
5 hrs ago

Martin68

(27,089 posts)
13. These monsters think if they keep lying their asses off they will win. But the majority of Americans knows what they
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 12:45 PM
5 hrs ago

saw with their own eyes. The saw a masked thug in uniform murder an unarmed woman for not paying him the respect he thought he deserved. And now the Trump administration and their sick minions are trying to persuade us it didn't happen that way. They have already failed, and are just digging themselves deeper into a hole they will never be able to climb out of.

Skittles

(169,643 posts)
16. to fascists, civil disobedience is domestic terrorism
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 01:40 PM
4 hrs ago

Last edited Sun Jan 11, 2026, 04:21 PM - Edit history (1)

it essentially applies to anyone who disagrees with them

BumRushDaShow

(165,894 posts)
17. IOW, "protest" is not a "First Amendment" right and is "domestic terrorism"
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 01:58 PM
4 hrs ago
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment


The above highlighted part is all they think the First Amendment is.

Skittles

(169,643 posts)
19. well, not exactly
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 04:23 PM
2 hrs ago

storming the Capitol and assaulting cops is considered patriotic protest, while BLM is terrorism

valleyrogue

(2,595 posts)
18. "I'm not mad at you" is "terrorism"?
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 02:02 PM
4 hrs ago

It sounds to me like the fascists are rapidly losing the narrative.

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