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erronis

(23,081 posts)
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:41 PM Jan 16

US boy, 11, allegedly shoots father to death after Nintendo Switch taken away

Source: The Guardian

An 11-year-old Pennsylvania boy allegedly shot his father to death after previously having his Nintendo Switch handheld gaming system taken away.

...

Police were dispatched to the family's residence at about 3.20am, after a report of an "unresponsive male". The news site says that officers found a 42-year-old man named Douglas Dietz dead in bed from a gunshot wound to the head.

...

The son then allegedly admitted to "removing the gun from the safe, loading bullets into it and walking over to his father's side of the bed", according to the affidavit. "He pulled back the hammer and fired the gun at his father," the affidavit adds.

When asked what he believed would happen when he fired the gun, the boy responded that he was "mad" and that he had "not thought about that", according to investigators.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/16/boy-allegedly-shoots-father-nintendo-switch



Another short quote from the article:
As put in court documents obtained and reported by WGAL News 8, the case illustrates how easily children can access guns in the US, where firearms are ubiquitous.

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US boy, 11, allegedly shoots father to death after Nintendo Switch taken away (Original Post) erronis Jan 16 OP
What a sick segment of society we have in this country that worships guns among all things. hlthe2b Jan 16 #1
Without a gun, it would be much harder for an 11 yr old to kill an adult male. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #2
At least it was in a safe. The boy found the key in a drawer. erronis Jan 16 #7
My nephew was getting into my brother's gun safe when he was 5 and 6. Igel Jan 16 #13
Parents often underestimate their child's intelligence and perseverance. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #20
What do you meant by "he could listen when my brother unlocked it?" Polybius Jan 17 #37
back with pushbutton phones Old Crank Jan 17 #42
The tones made sense for telephones. sl8 Jan 17 #44
I have no idea what the gun safe locks are like. Old Crank Jan 17 #45
This is still parental abuse/neglect/negligence. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #19
There is something disturbed about the kid iemanja Jan 16 #21
Absolutely. This child is not your usual...ect, ect.. He shouldn't be in society. chouchou Jan 16 #23
Yes of course. An 11 y/o child does not kill his father in cold blood without a back story. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #24
There may have been a reason for him keeping guns Polybius Jan 17 #38
If there were red flags with this child, the family had some choices to make. Irish_Dem Jan 17 #43
IPer the article, it was a keyed lock, not combination. The boy knew niyad Jan 16 #26
He found the key n/t Lulu KC Jan 16 #34
he had a record of inappropriate behavior. cab67 Jan 17 #57
Oh. The game was in the same safe as the gun? iemanja Jan 17 #59
I don't think it was. cab67 Jan 17 #60
I guess at least one less gun worshiper now. erronis Jan 16 #3
Beyond mean DenaliDemocrat Jan 16 #10
Another gun death approved by Charlie Kirk Norrrm Jan 16 #14
Not everyone with a gun is a "gun worshiper" Polybius Jan 17 #39
No need for apology. Even Charlie Kirk would'a supported the guy getting wacked as along as this episode 3Hotdogs Jan 17 #48
This happened in South Central Pennsylvania in a very small county (Perry) Wiz Imp Jan 16 #4
40 years ago (1986), my friend's son was seven years old. no_hypocrisy Jan 16 #5
Wow - that's horrible - sorry for your friend/family. erronis Jan 16 #8
40 Years ago DenaliDemocrat Jan 16 #11
They had cable . . . . . no_hypocrisy Jan 16 #12
Not 40 years ago DenaliDemocrat Jan 16 #35
We had cable 45 years ago. Wiz Imp Jan 17 #49
Not 40 years ago Polybius Jan 17 #36
No. DenaliDemocrat Jan 17 #46
Incorrect Polybius Jan 17 #50
You're wrong. Some stations started broadcasting 24 hours in the early 80's Wiz Imp Jan 17 #54
Depended on the affiliate. cab67 Jan 17 #58
Yeah...I can remember the sign off still into the mid-60's. I was 13 then..... Bengus81 Jan 17 #47
60's that was definitely a thing Polybius Jan 17 #51
Why did the kid have the combination? BidenRocks Jan 16 #6
Thought the same thing myself NickB79 Jan 16 #9
Key lock, not combination, and the boy knew where the key was. niyad Jan 16 #27
Based on at least some accounts - cab67 Jan 16 #31
Welcome to trump's America. mwb970 Jan 16 #15
Guns make a scary noise. Aussie105 Jan 16 #16
more information - cab67 Jan 16 #17
Thank you for that article. It paints a very sad picture. What a horrible loss. erronis Jan 16 #18
I just posted the same thing before realizing you'd done so Lulu KC Jan 16 #33
There is going to be a lot of commentary offered by both sides. . . Collimator Jan 16 #22
The father was careful to keep guns locked in the safe FakeNoose Jan 16 #25
He found the key while looking for his video game system. cab67 Jan 16 #30
Yes! This is EXACTLY why guns PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 16 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Jan 16 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Lulu KC Jan 16 #32
The child probably learned from ICE that that kind of shit is okay when you feel dissed. n/t Beartracks Jan 17 #40
well, i guess he (kid) showed him (dad) orleans Jan 17 #41
This would not have happened if he had whole milk. bucolic_frolic Jan 17 #52
If only dad had a gun. Oh . . . wait . . . Vinca Jan 17 #53
Little donvict in training having tantrum being told no SheltieLover Jan 17 #55
Psychopaths begin showing who they are when they are children dlk Jan 17 #56
Remember the Sandy Hook killer and his enabling mother. erronis Jan 17 #62
Or they grow up into a Nick Reiner dlk Jan 17 #63
and this......... twodogsbarking Jan 17 #61

hlthe2b

(113,192 posts)
1. What a sick segment of society we have in this country that worships guns among all things.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:44 PM
Jan 16

Had the child not had access to that gun, how different that incident might have gone. Granted, there are other ways to commit an act of violence, but at least more survivable (and which might afford an option for that child to receive intervention)

Irish_Dem

(80,402 posts)
2. Without a gun, it would be much harder for an 11 yr old to kill an adult male.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:50 PM
Jan 16

And why does a minor child have access to the gun safe?

erronis

(23,081 posts)
7. At least it was in a safe. The boy found the key in a drawer.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 06:09 PM
Jan 16

It's hard to safety-proof a home with guns in it. Maybe fingerprint locks - but the US doesn't allow those.

Igel

(37,427 posts)
13. My nephew was getting into my brother's gun safe when he was 5 and 6.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 06:58 PM
Jan 16

It was in his closet. And he figured out he could listen when my brother unlocked it to get his pistols for silhouette shooting, leaving pre-dawn. That, and he had time to just tinker with it when he was supposed to be asleep and didn't feel like sleeping. Don't count sheep, count 00 - 00 - 00 - 00, 00 - 00 - 00 -01, 00 - 00 - 00 - 02 ...

Polybius

(21,625 posts)
37. What do you meant by "he could listen when my brother unlocked it?"
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 12:58 AM
Jan 17

Let's say the code was 4-3-1-2. Did your brother whisper to himself "4-3-1-2" when putting in the code? Or did you mean that your nephew can hear the distinct numbers the sound makes on each press (for example, a 2 might sound different than a 4)?

Old Crank

(6,765 posts)
42. back with pushbutton phones
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 04:36 AM
Jan 17

there was a different note for each number.
with row tzpe combinations most people change one number awaz from the combination.
if combin is 0000, they close it and roll the end number one, 0001.

sl8

(17,085 posts)
44. The tones made sense for telephones.
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 06:58 AM
Jan 17

The generation of audio tones was the method chosen to transmit the numbers from your phone to a location many miles away (the telephone company's switch) over a piece of copper wire. There's no need to generate audio tones when you're entering numbers directly into a lock.

The dual-tone multi-frequency (DTMF) signaling scheme was a pretty clever development. Wikipedia article regarding same:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTMF_signaling

Old Crank

(6,765 posts)
45. I have no idea what the gun safe locks are like.
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 08:10 AM
Jan 17

Not needing one. All I know is that a lot of electronic things beep when the buttoms are pushed. Feedback that you have entered something sucessfully.

At least this guy had his gun in a safe. Although he didn't seem to have the ammo separately stored.
We also don't know if this was a spare key. Keeping killing machines around is dangerous and teh statistics bear that out.

Irish_Dem

(80,402 posts)
19. This is still parental abuse/neglect/negligence.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 08:11 PM
Jan 16

There is no point to a locked safe if the child can unlock the safe.

The parent was totally irresponsible and paid for it with his life.
And now his child will face some harsh penalties perhaps and have to live with the fact
he killed his own father.

iemanja

(57,615 posts)
21. There is something disturbed about the kid
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 09:07 PM
Jan 16

He doubtless presented himself as violent long before this. I do wonder how he knew the combination to the gun safe.

chouchou

(2,928 posts)
23. Absolutely. This child is not your usual...ect, ect.. He shouldn't be in society.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 09:28 PM
Jan 16

I have no answers, just questions.

Irish_Dem

(80,402 posts)
24. Yes of course. An 11 y/o child does not kill his father in cold blood without a back story.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 09:31 PM
Jan 16

Of course there were some red flags and problems in the past.
All the more reason there should be no guns in the home at all.

Polybius

(21,625 posts)
38. There may have been a reason for him keeping guns
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 01:02 AM
Jan 17

Maybe he was law enforcement, or was threatened in a violent neighborhood.

Irish_Dem

(80,402 posts)
43. If there were red flags with this child, the family had some choices to make.
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 06:31 AM
Jan 17

For example if I was a therapist for this family:

They would have to promise to make sure the guns were secured at ALL times.
In writing.

Or they would have to go cold turkey on the guns and get them out of the house.

LE can certainly store their firearms at the police barracks or station if need be.

And if they live in a violent neighborhood they need to consider relocation.

I have worked with cases like this with a suicidal or homicidal child or spouse in the family.

The guns must be removed from the home or I have no choice but to report it to the appropriate
authorities, the police, child services, adult (elder) services as the case may be.

A number of professions are mandated reported which means they are required by law
to report dangerous situations to the authorities.

And in this case if the other parent knew the child could get into the safe, charges should be brought against her.
This is child abuse, neglect, etc. Negligent homicide.

cab67

(3,664 posts)
57. he had a record of inappropriate behavior.
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 11:42 AM
Jan 17

This might or might not have been linked to his status on the autism spectrum. I don't know enough about autism to have a meaningful opinion about that.

But several people - including the kid's parents - had asked for resources to help him. They were unable to get them.

The safe used a key, not a combination lock - and the kid may have opened the safe not to get a gun, but to find his confiscated game system.

cab67

(3,664 posts)
60. I don't think it was.
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 01:38 PM
Jan 17

The boy was desperate to find the game after it was taken away. He opened the gun safe to see if it was there.

erronis

(23,081 posts)
3. I guess at least one less gun worshiper now.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:51 PM
Jan 16

Sorry - that was mean. But they need to consider the "unintended consequences". Something many RW types don't do.

3Hotdogs

(15,145 posts)
48. No need for apology. Even Charlie Kirk would'a supported the guy getting wacked as along as this episode
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 09:28 AM
Jan 17

doesn't lead to more restrictive, lib'ril gun laws.

Wiz Imp

(9,273 posts)
4. This happened in South Central Pennsylvania in a very small county (Perry)
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:54 PM
Jan 16

For what it's worth, Perry County is ultra right wing (Trump got over 74% of the vote in the county).

no_hypocrisy

(54,559 posts)
5. 40 years ago (1986), my friend's son was seven years old.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:58 PM
Jan 16

His mother improvidently put a TV in his bedroom as a pacifier.

Naturally, the kid stayed up all night watching shows and was catatonic in school the next day from lack of sleep.

My friend took fatherly steps to correct this. He removed the TV while his son was at school.

His wife/the kid's mother actually laughed that their son was going to attack his father with a baseball bat in retaliation.

Fast Forward: Last April (the kid was now 45 and still living at home), the son literally attacked his father with a baseball bat after a long Half-Nelson around his neck, nearly killing him.

The story in the OP doesn't surprise me at all. In the minds of some kids/sons, taking out their father solves everything wrong in their lives.

erronis

(23,081 posts)
8. Wow - that's horrible - sorry for your friend/family.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 06:12 PM
Jan 16

It makes me think of some other long-term family issues that lead to real trouble over time.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,734 posts)
35. Not 40 years ago
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 11:26 PM
Jan 16

40 years ago
Cable tv was HBO and you had a box with buttons to switch it on. We had cable tv because we live in the mountains and antennas didn’t work. Still only got ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS.

Wiz Imp

(9,273 posts)
49. We had cable 45 years ago.
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 09:54 AM
Jan 17

Was about 15 channels total, but it was cable. Included wpix & wor from New York and Wtbs now just tbs.

Polybius

(21,625 posts)
36. Not 40 years ago
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 12:42 AM
Jan 17

I was a kid in 1986, there was no National Anthem on TV at midnight, and there was lots of reruns all night too. Perhaps you meant 60 years ago.

Polybius

(21,625 posts)
50. Incorrect
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 10:07 AM
Jan 17

We did not have cable until November, 1987. Plenty of times I snuck TV after midnight before then. What was on was things like 50's and 60's sitcom reruns and old movies.

Wiz Imp

(9,273 posts)
54. You're wrong. Some stations started broadcasting 24 hours in the early 80's
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 10:33 AM
Jan 17

Even those stations that didn't broadcast 24 hours, few (if any) signed off at midnight. For example, NBC stations all broadcast until at least 2:00 AM. Johnny Carson ran from 11:30 to 1:00 AM, then Tom Snyder from 1:00 AM to 2:00 AM. Starting in 1972, CBS stations aired the CBS Late Movie from 11:30 until 2:30 AM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_CBS_Late_Movie. ABC broadcast the Joey Bishop Show in the late 60's which ran until 1:00 then the Dick Cavett Show in the 70's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_late-night_American_network_TV_programs

Polybius

(21,625 posts)
51. 60's that was definitely a thing
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 10:09 AM
Jan 17

But this poster is insisting it went until the late 80's. He's wrong, I was there sneaking TV after midnight as a kid in the early 80's.

NickB79

(20,278 posts)
9. Thought the same thing myself
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 06:14 PM
Jan 16

Maybe the father trusted his son enough to have access to firearms; that was clearly a mistake. I take my 15 yr old daughter hunting and target shooting with me, so I trust her with a 12-gauge shotgun in a deer stand. She's a great kid, but even I don't give her a spare key to the gun safe.

cab67

(3,664 posts)
31. Based on at least some accounts -
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 11:00 PM
Jan 16

- he opened the safe initially not to get a gun, but to see if his Nintendo Switch was in there.

Aussie105

(7,720 posts)
16. Guns make a scary noise.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 07:20 PM
Jan 16

And, in the right state of mind, you may think they also solve a lot of problems.

Forgetting they create bigger problems.

But 11 year old boys - and even those up to full male brain maturity, around 25 - don't think that far ahead.

(25 was the age I was at when I got married and had one child on the way, and realized that having multiple guns around the house and a big motorcycle for late night 'clear the head' hoons wasn't too smart.)

Lulu KC

(8,742 posts)
33. I just posted the same thing before realizing you'd done so
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 11:03 PM
Jan 16

Should not have been a gun in the house--even if it was kept under lock and key. Kid found the key! Kids do that. Just a tragic story.

Collimator

(2,102 posts)
22. There is going to be a lot of commentary offered by both sides. . .
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 09:09 PM
Jan 16

. . . of many issues that the relate to this event. Or should I say multiple sides? Each person looking on from their position will cite this boy's behavior as "proof" of the validity of their evaluation.

There will be some who will say that the boy should have been disciplined more often, and/or more harshly. A completely different approach to notions of discipline will be touted by some as the only answer.

Others will point to ingrained ideas about autism. Some will insist that toxic masculinity is to blame while others will tell you that men and boys are undervalued in an increasingly "feminized" world.

And there will be many who will claim that it was the video game(s) that made the boy violent, while ignoring the gun. Another that will be ignored will be the family's race if they are White. That will only become germane if the family is Black.

None of it changes anything, of course.

FakeNoose

(40,705 posts)
25. The father was careful to keep guns locked in the safe
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 10:03 PM
Jan 16

... so how was the boy able to open the safe and get the gun?
Why bother with a safe if the guns and ammo are available to anyone?
Lots of question here.....

cab67

(3,664 posts)
30. He found the key while looking for his video game system.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 10:58 PM
Jan 16

One article I read suggested the boy opened the safe not to get a gun, but to see if his game system was in there. He found a gun instead.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,485 posts)
28. Yes! This is EXACTLY why guns
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 10:49 PM
Jan 16

are so wonderful. I mean, if there had not been a gun in the house, what would the 11 year old have used? Knife, screwdriver, hammer? They would be so messy, so less kill-reliable.

Oh, wait, I'm sorry. I mean had there not been a gun readily available someone would still be alive, right? Hmm, wonder what difference having a gun or not having a gun in the home would make? Gosh, I can't begin to guess.

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erronis

(23,081 posts)
62. Remember the Sandy Hook killer and his enabling mother.
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 03:37 PM
Jan 17
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

A November 2013 report issued by the Connecticut State Attorney's office stated that Lanza acted alone and planned his actions, but provided no indication of why he did so, or why he targeted the school. A report issued by the Office of the Child Advocate in November 2014 said that Lanza had Asperger's syndrome and, as a teenager, suffered from depression, anxiety, and obsessive-compulsive disorder, but concluded that these factors "neither caused nor led to his murderous acts". The report went on to say, "his severe and deteriorating internalized mental health problems [...] combined with an atypical preoccupation with violence [...] (and) access to deadly weapons [...] proved a recipe for mass murder."[13]


Much more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting#Early_living,_developmental_and_mental_health_problems
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