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BumRushDaShow

(166,390 posts)
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 04:56 AM 8 hrs ago

Finland's president says 'it's not over yet' after Greenland de-escalation

Source: The Hill

01/21/26 6:28 PM ET


Finnish President Alexander Stubb warned Wednesday that “it’s not over yet” after President Trump de-escalated his aggressive stance on possibly acquiring Greenland for the U.S. by force.

“I took two positive takeaways from this speech,” Stubb said on “Amanpour & Co” with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour. “One was he said there will be no military intervention, and the second one is he wants to improve our Arctic security for national and ‘international’ reasons. So, I think we’ve now de-escalated but, obviously, it’s not over yet.”

Stubb said Europe faced three scenarios with the U.S. plans over acquiring Greenland. He called these scenarios the “good, bad and ugly.” “And the good would be to find an off-ramp and create a process to improve Arctic security through NATO,” he told Amanpour. “The bad one would be to have a tariff war continued, and the ugly one would have been military intervention.”

Trump said he reached the framework of a deal with NATO about Greenland’s future and chose not to impose 10 percent tariffs on Denmark and other European countries. The president has frequently said the U.S. needs Greenland for national security reasons.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/international/5699950-greenland-nato-trump-stubb/

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Finland's president says 'it's not over yet' after Greenland de-escalation (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 8 hrs ago OP
Trump's a liar, I agree with Stubb: he's going to go for Greenland. C Moon 8 hrs ago #1
Trump did sell our country to Putin. Irish_Dem 8 hrs ago #2
never believe anything from a psychopathic liar. nt Javaman 6 hrs ago #3
Remember Putin before he started the war? Easterncedar 4 hrs ago #4
Head of EU spoke (today? or recently) Jarqui 3 hrs ago #5
Don't trust trump any more than you would trust putin..... 70sEraVet 3 hrs ago #6
MaddowBlog-Five things to know about Trump's 'concept of a deal' on Greenland and tariffs LetMyPeopleVote 2 hrs ago #7

C Moon

(13,508 posts)
1. Trump's a liar, I agree with Stubb: he's going to go for Greenland.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 05:20 AM
8 hrs ago

Trump's just a dumbshit who can't keep his mouth shut, so this time he's lying.
It's a good thing he wasn't drafted: he would have sold the U.S. to the enemy.

Easterncedar

(5,635 posts)
4. Remember Putin before he started the war?
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:32 AM
4 hrs ago

He kept moving his troops up and up and insisting it was all for exercises. He had no intention of invading. Not at all.

I don't believe a word the orange goon says. Not that he even knows what he is saying. But he will have learned this lesson at least.

Jarqui

(10,844 posts)
5. Head of EU spoke (today? or recently)
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:20 AM
3 hrs ago


FULL SPEECH: Germany’s Merz Declares Old World Order Over, Warns Against US Bullying at Davos | AC1G

German Chancellor Friedrich Merz delivers one of the most consequential speeches at Davos, declaring the old world order broken and urging Europe to act with power, unity, and realism. At the World Economic Forum, Merz outlines Germany’s new responsibility for Europe’s security, warns against US bullying under Donald Trump, backs Canada’s Mark Carney, and calls for a stronger, sovereign Europe within NATO.


Macron "We need more stability in this world, but we do prefer respect to bullies. We do prefer science to plotism. And we do prefer rule of law to brutality."  "now is ... not a time for new imperialism or new colonialism”

All the EU heads of State are talking about a new world order as did CDN PM Carney who got a standing ovation for his remarks.

(EU Head loosely paraphrased) 'Basically, the US isn't what the US used to be (as the implied basis of why the new world order is the way it must be) so we'll play the NATO game but we're going to build our own permanent EU alliance to be stronger on its own. That embraces new members Finland & Sweden and includes Ukraine' (who they're loaning $90 billion Euros in 2026 & 2027 - some of that coming from the Russian assets they seized).

Trump has changed the world such that the world is distancing itself from Trump and America permanently.

Can't blame them. Trump threatened them with tariffs and military action. Like Canada, they had no choice:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115925888562624963

Whatever leadership role America had in the free world has been diminished for the foreseeable future.
Canada is making defense plans if the Trump attacks.
EU will be withhold some stuff militarily in case Trump attacks.
Greenland is trying to prepare to defend itself - setting aside food/supplies and setting up military.

Trust is hard to earn but easy to lose.
Trump compromised the trust the free world had in America.
They're moving on accordingly. Facing threats, they were given no choice.

Very sad day. Divide and conquer. Russia & China win because the US-NATO partnership is diminished by the erosion of trust.

70sEraVet

(5,296 posts)
6. Don't trust trump any more than you would trust putin.....
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:49 AM
3 hrs ago

They are ultimately the same person.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,759 posts)
7. MaddowBlog-Five things to know about Trump's 'concept of a deal' on Greenland and tariffs
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:59 AM
2 hrs ago

Any suggestion there’s a substantive agreement appears to be wrong. As the president has admitted, the details don't exist yet.

Five things to know about Trump’s ‘concept of a deal’ on Greenland and tariffs - MS NOW

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(@oc88.bsky.social) 2026-01-22T15:08:49.790Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-greenland-concept-of-a-deal-five-things-to-know

After years of assurances that his health care plan was just “two weeks” away, Donald Trump was pressed during a 2024 debate on this elusive blueprint. The Republican famously declared, “I have concepts of a plan.”.....

And yet, after the president announced that he’d agreed to “a framework” with NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte on the future of Greenland, the Republican faced inevitable questions about the agreement’s contents, and he decided to lean once again on a familiar phrase.

Kernen: “Can you go into what you just talked about with the NATO meeting?”

Trump: “Well, we have a concept of a deal.”

The Bulwark (@thebulwark.com) 2026-01-21T20:50:23.909Z


“We have a concept of a deal,” Trump told CNBC on Wednesday afternoon.

As the dust settles on the head-spinning developments, here are five key elements to keep in mind:

1. For now, the details of the deal don’t appear to exist. Shortly after announcing the breakthrough by way of his social media platform, the American president conceded to reporters, “It’s right now a little bit in progress.” On Thursday morning, during a Fox Business interview, he added, “It’s really being negotiated now, the details of it.” Any suggestion there’s a meaningful agreement in place appears misguided.

2. Be prepared for a fresh round of “TACO” mockery. Throughout 2025, the president confronted consistent “Trump Always Chickens Out” ridicule, mostly driven by his willingness to back off his treats of tariffs in the face of sharp stock market downturns. This week, it happened again. The Republican specifically referenced the stock market three times during his remarks at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, shortly before caving — which left little doubt as to why he was eager to back away from the crisis he created.....

5. He could still reverse course again. The incumbent American president hasn’t exactly earned a reputation for steadfastness and consistency. There were few similarities between his approach to Greenland on Tuesday and his approach on Wednesday. What will his position be next week or next month? No one knows, and that’s part of the broader problem: Trump is an erratic and easily confused official who tends to be swayed by the last person to have his ear, which necessarily makes it difficult for anyone, including our closest allies, to have confidence about the future.
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