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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:50 AM Jan 2013

Gov. Cuomo Calls for Reform: Marijuana Arrests That 'Stigmatize and Criminalize...Must End Now'

Source: Huffington Post

In his State of the State address on Wednesday, Gov. Andrew Cuomo made a passionate call to reform New York's marijuana possession laws in order to reduce the enormous number of unlawful, biased, and costly arrests. The governor noted the discrepancy in the law between public and private possession of marijuana, and proposed standardizing the penalties for possession of small amounts. After citing the harmful outcomes of these arrests -- like racial disparities, stigma from criminalization, and fiscal waste -- the governor made a forceful call for immediate reform: "It's not fair, it's not right. It must end, and it must end now."

Possession of marijuana is the leading arrest in New York City today -- but it's not supposed to be this way. In 1977, New York State removed criminal penalties for private possession of marijuana, and made possession in public view a misdemeanor. The 1977 Legislature made its intent clear:

"The legislature finds that arrests, criminal prosecutions, and criminal penalties are inappropriate for people who possess small quantities of marihuana (sic) for personal use. Every year, this process needlessly scars thousands of lives and wastes millions of dollars in law enforcement resources, while detracting from the prosecution of serious crime."

Despite -- or in spite of -- the legislative intent, more than 600,000 people have been arrested for marijuana possession during the last 15 years in New York. Most of these arrest occur in the Big Apple: more than 50,000 people were arrested for marijuana possession in 2011 alone. Most of these arrests are unconstitutional -- people possessing marijuana in their pocket or bag are instead charged and arrested for possession in public view. Nearly 85 percent of those arrested are black and Latino, mostly young men, even though government data shows that young whites use marijuana at higher rates. This creates, essentially, a two-tier legal system where the law is applied differently to different groups of people depending on their race. As if the human costs weren't already bad enough, this practice costs taxpayers at least $75 million a year. It's a classic case of drug war insanity.

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Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabriel-sayegh/governor-cuomo-marijuana-reform_b_2443694.html

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Gov. Cuomo Calls for Reform: Marijuana Arrests That 'Stigmatize and Criminalize...Must End Now' (Original Post) bananas Jan 2013 OP
Full two-hour video at state website bananas Jan 2013 #1
Dude must be running for President in 2016. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #2
It certainly worked for Obama - TWICE 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #18
Ya think stevenmitchell Jan 2013 #23
No criminal penalties since 1977? Proletariatprincess Jan 2013 #3
See post number 4... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #7
Fucking NYPD made New York City the marijuana arrest capital of the world... Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #4
+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #8
The buck stops at Mayor Bloomberg's desk. Same with 'stop and frisk'. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #11
They do it by making folks empty their pockets RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #16
This wouldn't have been allowed to happen if it was white people on the Upper West Side. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #5
Good! Cha Jan 2013 #6
I get a strong feeling that sometime within the next 4 years pot will be legalized. Kablooie Jan 2013 #9
Except that marijuana legalization is not a RW vs LW issue. truedelphi Jan 2013 #12
It could become one. All it takes is an opportunistic leader to realize this is a winning issue. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #14
... or a big pharma or tobacco corp Myrina Jan 2013 #22
marijuana legalization is probably not a RW vs LW issue - as such stevenmitchell Jan 2013 #25
Spam deleted by Vanje (MIR Team) plasticcraft1 Jan 2013 #10
The winds of change ..... Nt. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #13
As I understand it, dotymed Jan 2013 #15
Prohibition is a failed public polcy...again nt TeamPooka Jan 2013 #17
I hate to be cynical DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #19
I'd vote for him. bobclark86 Jan 2013 #21
Probably true stevenmitchell Jan 2013 #24
Upstate "Bible Belt" Republicans are going to have a shit-fit... bobclark86 Jan 2013 #20

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
2. Dude must be running for President in 2016.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:21 AM
Jan 2013

Saying stuff like that is the kinda thing that will get you elected.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
18. It certainly worked for Obama - TWICE
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:11 PM
Jan 2013

2008 interview: "won't be using DoJ resources to circumvent
state med. Mj laws" as that would be wasting DoJ resources
better spent dealing with REAL criminals and terrorists.

stevenmitchell

(8 posts)
23. Ya think
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:03 PM
Jan 2013

That and doing nothing will at least not leave people alienated towards you. New York is rapidly losing jobs with the downsizing of the U.S. banking industry - which has been its primary industry for the last 20-30 years - but Andrew Cuomo, like his father Mario, have a different set of priorities. Regardless, of what the Cuomo family believes, Welfare is not an economic growth plan. One can tell how deeply involved the governor is in the future direction of New York. Everyone should get stoned until they realize they have nothing to eat and an epidemic of munchies breaks out... but we still have nothing to eat and now we are beset with the munchies...

3. No criminal penalties since 1977?
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:27 AM
Jan 2013

Why have so many been arrested since then? I don't understand. Is law enforcement in the Big Apple out of control? Do cops make or ignore the laws at will? How did this come to happen and why has it been going on so long?
It is way way past time to resolve this racist outrage. I wish all those responsible for this insanity could be held accountable but I know that is beyond reasonable expectation. The very least that can be done is to stop this insanity immediately and forever.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
4. Fucking NYPD made New York City the marijuana arrest capital of the world...
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:36 AM
Jan 2013

...even when it was decriminalized. And, of course, 85% were young people of color, mostly young men.

Who controls the NYPD? Nobody?

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
16. They do it by making folks empty their pockets
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:42 PM
Jan 2013

When they take the weed out, it's in public view, so it's now a misdemeanor.
It's high time they took this garbage off of the books.
There are even NYC cops who go after folks for weed, after being told not to.
NYPD is Kelly's Gulag. Blame him. He's the one who should be fired.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
5. This wouldn't have been allowed to happen if it was white people on the Upper West Side.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:37 AM
Jan 2013

Glad to see Cuomo's trying to put an end to it.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
9. I get a strong feeling that sometime within the next 4 years pot will be legalized.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:07 AM
Jan 2013

And, I hope, controls on gun violence will be implemented.

These are all signs that the worm is truly turning and the country is shifting back to the left. When it does, it will stay there for a long, long time.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
12. Except that marijuana legalization is not a RW vs LW issue.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:43 AM
Jan 2013

You have plenty of RW ex-sheriffs saying they would like to see it become legal, or at least de-criminalized, so a local police force could handle real criminals and not grandmothers smoking pot for the relief it gives their MS symptoms. And then supposed Democrats are saying they want it considered "a public health issue" and they refuse to back down on prosecuting people for it, even in states where voters have said otherwise.

Just in the past few days, a man who helped ensure that many Central Valley Californians could use pot the way that we state voters determined was given a ten year sentence! All for his running a medical marijuana dispensary.

Meanwhile Big Financial Giant HSBC doesn't have a single official jailed for helping the state of Iran, and entire drug cartels, launder money!

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
22. ... or a big pharma or tobacco corp
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jan 2013

... to patent the chemical makeup or monopolize the market & put the squeeze on some elected officials to "open up the market" ...

stevenmitchell

(8 posts)
25. marijuana legalization is probably not a RW vs LW issue - as such
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:24 PM
Jan 2013

"Marijuana legalization is not a RW vs LW issue", as such, but it has always been an "age" issue. I am 55 and people older than me since I was in high school have always castigated me the strongest. At the time of my high school years and even later, most people my age were either indifferent or 420-friendly (if not actual consumers). Now polls indicate a 50-50 split in opinions on its legalization, but that is largely because the elderly who were brought up in and shaped by the "Reefer Madness" era and all of the anti-consumption publicity of the 1930s, 1940s & 1950s have started to die off, to put it harshly. And younger people coming up, who have not been submerged in the propaganda associated with it, are much more liberal about its acceptability. As an indication of this trend changing, when I was in high school in the 1970s and they did public polls, those in favor only constituted 20-25 % of the population. In some polls, it was even less, probably dependent upon the participant ages represented in the polls. So I think it has always been much more an issue of demographics than of political-orientation.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
15. As I understand it,
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:02 PM
Jan 2013

the police in N.Y. "stop and frisk" mainly minorities, when they empty purses or pockets, then the pot is in "public view", and therefore a criminal offense....wow.
All the shit happening in N.Y and this is what the cops do. I guess it keeps them safer than chasing real criminals. It probably allows them to kill time while they are working, many are bribed not to bother the real criminals... Serpico...

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
19. I hate to be cynical
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:05 PM
Jan 2013

But I think that is Andy tuning up his vocal chords for the 2016 opera. A lot of people would call him Messiah if he draped himself in the Green 420 flag.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
21. I'd vote for him.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:36 AM
Jan 2013

He's not my favorite (I don't agree with everything he does), but he's got an excellent track record and approval rating in NY (as both AG and governor), he's passionate and Republicans hate him. Yup, sounds like a good candidate to me

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
20. Upstate "Bible Belt" Republicans are going to have a shit-fit...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:34 AM
Jan 2013

and let them .

Interestingly enough, I have one of the worst allergies a liberal ex-college student can have, so this won't affect me one way or the other.

Then again, since this does mostly affect minorities, I'm surprised it's getting any traction at all. Nobody in NY seems to care about anything unless it affects white people. Meth, on the other hand, seems to be an all-cracker problem in my area. Naturally, the media is all over it .

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