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BumRushDaShow

(168,436 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:00 PM 15 hrs ago

Daines Drops Re-election Bid in Montana, Upending a Senate Race

Source: New York Times

March 4, 2026, 8:47 p.m. ET


Senator Steve Daines, Republican of Montana, said on Wednesday that he would not seek re-election this year, a surprise announcement that could offer Democrats a long-shot chance to flip a seat in their uphill fight to win control of the Senate.

Mr. Daines made the announcement just minutes before the filing deadline closed for November's election, saying that he had been "wrestling with this decision for months" and that it was time for "new leaders," like the state's junior Republican senator, Tim Sheehy, to "spearhead the fight for Montana in the United States Senate."

Mr. Daines, a two-term senator who led Republicans� successful effort to flip the Senate in 2024, also endorsed a successor: Kurt Alme, the U.S. attorney for Montana. President Trump also quickly endorsed Mr. Alme on Wednesday evening.

Mr. Daines' announcement "a surprise even to his Senate colleagues" upended the political landscape in Montana, a sparsely populated and independent-minded state that has veered rightward in recent years. The last remaining statewide Democrat, Senator Jon Tester, lost his re-election bid to Mr. Sheehy in 2024.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/04/us/elections/steve-daines-out-montana-senate-race.html



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Daines Drops Re-election Bid in Montana, Upending a Senate Race (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 15 hrs ago OP
All that garbage appeared when you previewed or edited your post AZJonnie 15 hrs ago #1
It's only doing it for the single and double quote marks BumRushDaShow 15 hrs ago #2
Yes, I know exactly what it is and why it's happening. AZJonnie 15 hrs ago #3
It just started happening today BumRushDaShow 15 hrs ago #4
It started yesterday actually, but yeah, it's very recent. AZJonnie 14 hrs ago #7
Appreciate much BumRushDaShow 14 hrs ago #10
I can paste this sentence from Word onto DU, with curly quotes and you'll see them just fine/normal AZJonnie 15 hrs ago #5
It's not just the curly quotes but the single quote marks too BumRushDaShow 15 hrs ago #6
Where did I say curly double quotes? I said curly quotes. Meaning either single or double. AZJonnie 14 hrs ago #9
Thank you for clarifying BumRushDaShow 14 hrs ago #11
Every font set supports a presentation of straight 'single' and "double quotes", and curly 'single' and "double quotes" AZJonnie 13 hrs ago #12
There's a thread in the Community Help forum about this BumRushDaShow 14 hrs ago #8
Maybe some of these republicans see something we don't: that our economy is going to be ugly by 2027... C Moon 11 hrs ago #13
Daines dropped out at the last minute because Trump was going to endorse Alme rpannier 9 hrs ago #14
Think Tester will run? Deminpenn 8 hrs ago #15
It's too bad they're too stupid to see that, if you don't vote for Republicans, the economy will likely stay strong Aristus 1 hr ago #16

AZJonnie

(3,523 posts)
1. All that garbage appeared when you previewed or edited your post
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:04 PM
15 hrs ago

If you edit and repaste everything direct from the source and do not preview or edit (just post it immediately) it will appear correctly for everyone. You need the ORIGINAL source though, with the original curly quotes intact. Just paste and save and correct quote characters will stay in place.



ETA or you can manually edit all the quotation marks to non-curly form, as it seems you're working on

BumRushDaShow

(168,436 posts)
2. It's only doing it for the single and double quote marks
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:07 PM
15 hrs ago

I already fixed it but noticed it happening with others who are copying/pasting text with quotes.

AZJonnie

(3,523 posts)
3. Yes, I know exactly what it is and why it's happening.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:09 PM
15 hrs ago

And see my ETA in my post above

It happens when you edit or preview a post with curly quotes. They will work right, however, if you paste direct from source, and do NOT edit or preview. The problem is coming from round-trips to the database.

BumRushDaShow

(168,436 posts)
4. It just started happening today
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:14 PM
15 hrs ago

Could be some modifications that Elad did to the software. I haven't looked to see if it's happening for OPs in other forums/groups but I do know there are certain characters that get stripped out of LBN post forms (OP and Comment section) but not in the reply forms with a preview/edit.

(ETA - the "=" and "|" are examples of characters that get stripped after edits to LBN OPs)

AZJonnie

(3,523 posts)
7. It started yesterday actually, but yeah, it's very recent.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:22 PM
14 hrs ago

You post a lot of articles, so I'm telling you how to avoid the problem so you won't have to manually do all that, friend

And yes, so you're familiar with the general idea that certain things don't persist when you edit or preview (i.e. there is a database round trip). This problem is a similar/related thing, and yes it must be caused by some very recent software update installed on DU (possibly a new JDBC driver version).

BumRushDaShow

(168,436 posts)
10. Appreciate much
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:30 PM
14 hrs ago


(I am used to having to edit because a number of sites use extended character sets in their HTML for some of their characters and those don't always render correctly here either, so I end up having to preview/edit continually )

AZJonnie

(3,523 posts)
5. I can paste this sentence from Word onto DU, with curly quotes and you'll see them just fine/normal
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:15 PM
15 hrs ago

“Here is a sentence encased in double quotes done on a PC in Word and pasted to DU”

But if I try to preview first, OR I post it and then edit it, the curly quotes will switch to the garbage characters. It's because there's a database round-trip involved in either of those processes.

Try it

BumRushDaShow

(168,436 posts)
6. It's not just the curly quotes but the single quote marks too
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:18 PM
15 hrs ago

E.g., the "apostrophe". So it was doing it to possessives.

ETA - there are also occasional issues with the "emdash" (long dash) where it used to stick a "?" as a render instead, but is actually now doing a "double dash".

AZJonnie

(3,523 posts)
9. Where did I say curly double quotes? I said curly quotes. Meaning either single or double.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:24 PM
14 hrs ago

Again, I'm just telling you what to do to save yourself some work. Do with that info what you will

ETA, oh I get it now, to you, a single quote is an apostrophe, not a "quote". When you're a programmer, there's single quotes and double quotes, and "apostrophe's" just aren't a 'thing'

BumRushDaShow

(168,436 posts)
11. Thank you for clarifying
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:34 PM
14 hrs ago

because on my browser, the single quote is not "curly". The double quotes are but I have seen double quotes that actually lean to the left at the beginning of a quoted section and lean to right at the end too, meaning there are different font styles of quotes!

AZJonnie

(3,523 posts)
12. Every font set supports a presentation of straight 'single' and "double quotes", and curly 'single' and "double quotes"
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 11:16 PM
13 hrs ago

‘And actually, single quotes can be curly on your browser, you can see that right here’ (these should be curly-looking).

If you just type into DU yourself as I'm sure you know, you NEVER see curly quotes. You can get them in Word, you can get them in articles online, but there are NO 'curly quote' keys on your keyboard. They're created on the fly by software like Word, as you type. "Smart Quotes" they call it.

Anyways, character set describes the translations from hex representations (what is really stored on disk) to and from the 'characters', as we see them. It is a 'mapping' system, if you will. The means by which characters are converted to hex values is called "encoding". Every character set has its own "encoding" scheme associated.

The "font" otoh handles the actual presentation step, which takes the character it's been provided and makes it look like it does (and a bewildering array of other, non-obvious things about how the characters and words look, it would trip most people out to learn just HOW MUCH the font choice actually DOES in practice).

Anyways, this is not a font question, it's a character set translation issue. All four of these characters have their own distinct hex values behind the scenes. Or in some cases, they do not have one!

The “single, open, curly quote” is the Unicode character LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK, U+2018. is the Unicode character LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK, U+2018.

In UTF‑8, U+2018 is encoded as E2 80 98 (hex).

In ISO‑8859‑1, there is no defined character at U+2018, and curly quotes are not part of the ISO‑8859‑1 repertoire, so it does not have a valid single‑byte hex value there.

Curly quotes can clearly be saved to the database okay because I can save the above (without preview or edit) and you will see the versions I saved (with curly quotes in various spots). So the issue is not with saving to/storing in the DB. DB is probably using UTF-8 which is default for mysql.

However, at some step in the process where DU app server plucks your (saved) post content from the DB and presents it to you for a continued edit in the preview/edit form, the hex value of CURLY version that was saved in the DB is not properly interpreted anymore and you get garbage instead. That's why you can SEE the bad characters in the edit window at that point. At this point, local browser setting are irrelevant, font choices are irrelevant, because the data was F'd before it even hit your computer at all. It came out of DU's server wrong

Make sense, at least somewhat?



C Moon

(13,590 posts)
13. Maybe some of these republicans see something we don't: that our economy is going to be ugly by 2027...
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 12:28 AM
11 hrs ago

so they'll let them take control and then blame the Democratic party for their own messes.
It sure has happened in the past.

rpannier

(24,889 posts)
14. Daines dropped out at the last minute because Trump was going to endorse Alme
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 03:05 AM
9 hrs ago

So, Daines dropped out and no one else chose to run
Alme will get the Republikkan nomination. Don't know who will be the Democratic nominee

Deminpenn

(17,401 posts)
15. Think Tester will run?
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 03:23 AM
8 hrs ago

I'm not usually a fan of losing candidates running again, but Tester was elected once and Montana has elected other Dems to statewide office. Montana strikes me as being an electorate that's independent/libertarianish and Tester has a populist streak that attracts that kind of voter.

Aristus

(72,024 posts)
16. It's too bad they're too stupid to see that, if you don't vote for Republicans, the economy will likely stay strong
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 10:35 AM
1 hr ago

under Democratic leadership. If what you want is a strong economy, vote Democratic. If you want a lousy economy and someone to blame for it, vote Republican and blame the out-of-power Democrats.

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