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BlueWavePsych

(3,351 posts)
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:18 AM Mar 20

US considering occupying Kharg Island to force Iran to open Hormuz strait, say reports

Source: Guardian

The US is reportedly considering plans to occupy or blockade Iran’s Kharg Island to pressure Tehran to reopen the strait of Hormuz, despite earlier suggestions by Donald Trump that he was not leaning towards putting “boots on the ground”.

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The report emerged as Iran’s military threatened it would “hunt down” officials and military commanders from the United States and Israel wherever it could find them in the world.

“We are watching your cowardly officials and commanders, pilots and wicked soldiers,” the armed forces spokesperson Abolfazl Shekarchi said, quoted by state TV. “From now on, based on the information we have on you, the promenades, resorts and tourist and entertainment centres in the world will not be safe.”

Any attempt physically to occupy Kharg Island would probably entail high risks, exposing American forces there to Iranian drone and rocket fire in a geographically confined space.


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/20/us-considering-occupying-iran-kharg-island-hormuz-strait-trump





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US considering occupying Kharg Island to force Iran to open Hormuz strait, say reports (Original Post) BlueWavePsych Mar 20 OP
This seems like a really stupid idea. Ocelot II Mar 20 #1
It is a really stupid idea sarisataka Mar 20 #13
What could possibly go wrong? tanyev Mar 20 #2
Answer: Everything! flashman13 Mar 20 #3
So the braintrust is assuming Iran won't fire on it because the oil/storage? underpants Mar 20 #4
Depends how stupid Iran is EX500rider Mar 20 #5
Wouldn't Iran lose those facilities anyway? EYESORE 9001 Mar 20 #8
Big difference between temporarily occupied and destroyed EX500rider Mar 20 #11
Define 'temporary' EYESORE 9001 Mar 20 #14
For them, it might as well be destroyed if it is occupied any real length of time SamuelTheThird Mar 20 #18
Well the facilities require oil to be pumped from the wells to there.. EX500rider Mar 20 #22
The Dutch destroyed their refineries rather than have them used by Japan in WWII. PufPuf23 Mar 20 #39
If the facility is occupied .... reACTIONary Mar 20 #12
No one else can use it with out Iran continuing to pump oil there from the well heads. EX500rider Mar 20 #23
Iran is prepared to take everyone in the Gulf Miguelito Loveless Mar 20 #17
This could lead to worldwide nuclear war SamuelTheThird Mar 20 #19
This is the path Miguelito Loveless Mar 20 #20
"Iran is prepared to take everyone in the Gulf.." Even more reason they can't be trusted with nukes IMO EX500rider Mar 20 #24
They don't have any nukes Miguelito Loveless Mar 20 #27
So they ruined their economy with sanctions & have thousands of centrifuges under a mountain.. EX500rider Mar 20 #30
Something Israel claims Miguelito Loveless Mar 20 #36
They don't have nukes & working on getting them are 2 different things. EX500rider Mar 20 #31
Again, the claim is they have been working on them for 47 years Miguelito Loveless Mar 20 #34
And again why do they have centrifuges under a mountain enriching uranium to nuclear bomb percentages? EX500rider Mar 20 #35
Again, proof other than Israeli Miguelito Loveless Mar 20 #37
That's the UN saying that not Trump or Israel EX500rider Mar 20 #38
Iran cannot win the war by strength and may end up a larger version of Gaza and a failed state. PufPuf23 Mar 20 #40
"Israel cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons." The facts would indicate otherwise IMO EX500rider Mar 20 #41
I don't trust Israel with nukes much more than I trust Iran--- BUT Jack Valentino Mar 20 #43
Because Iran "holds all of the good cards" Trump can't just declare victory and walk out. flashman13 Mar 20 #6
Do trump and Kegbreath ever consult any actual military experts? Bayard Mar 20 #7
Trump wants a blood sacrifice. Baitball Blogger Mar 20 #9
they should have considered it before now. maxsolomon Mar 20 #10
Why won't Iran want to damage the petro Farmer-Rick Mar 20 #26
because they are self-interested. maxsolomon Mar 20 #29
The Iranian army has the whole fucking island zeroed for motherfucking artillery missions. SoFlaBro Mar 20 #15
Be out of range for most their artillery @ 25 miles+ unless they line it up exposed on the beach EX500rider Mar 20 #25
Why would they stop attacking the rest of the ME? Red Mountain Mar 20 #32
Well the issue for them is that's where 90% of the oil leaves from EX500rider Mar 20 #33
Let's see: Miguelito Loveless Mar 20 #16
Its way west of the strait IbogaProject Mar 20 #21
Been obvious for a while now OC375 Mar 20 #28
US speeds up deployment of thousands more Marines, sailors to Middle East Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 20 #42

underpants

(196,583 posts)
4. So the braintrust is assuming Iran won't fire on it because the oil/storage?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:34 AM
Mar 20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharg_Island

I doubt the Clustertrump is worried at all about the archeological areas there.

This sounds like fish in a barrel for missiles and drones.

EX500rider

(12,596 posts)
5. Depends how stupid Iran is
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:34 AM
Mar 20

If the US did occupy it them firing at it would destroy their own facilities of which 90% of the oil is exported, basically cutting their own economic throat

EYESORE 9001

(29,743 posts)
8. Wouldn't Iran lose those facilities anyway?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:50 AM
Mar 20

Whether occupied by a bellicose force or whether the facilities are destroyed outright, Iran is still denied these essential facilities. The Iranian regime sees this as an existential crisis, while the orange menace seems oblivious. I believe Iran would blow up their own facilities rather than allow their enemy to use them for their own interests.

EYESORE 9001

(29,743 posts)
14. Define 'temporary'
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:30 PM
Mar 20

If their facilities are being used to subvert the Iranian regime, then I could see them destroying it instead. I don’t pretend to understand, but it’s a real possibility IMO.

SamuelTheThird

(1,173 posts)
18. For them, it might as well be destroyed if it is occupied any real length of time
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:41 PM
Mar 20

It's not a question of how 'stupid' Iran's governing body or bodies are...They haven't gone full-out on what they can do, ie serious targeting of all desalinization plants causing n unprecedented catastrophe. So they still have some survival calculations going on. But if they feel they are facing extinction, they will go to the most extreme measures.

EX500rider

(12,596 posts)
22. Well the facilities require oil to be pumped from the wells to there..
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 03:37 PM
Mar 20

.....so Iran still controls that.
The question is if they want to cut their own throat economically.
And if the answer is yes than I trust them with nukes even less.

PufPuf23

(9,870 posts)
39. The Dutch destroyed their refineries rather than have them used by Japan in WWII.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:25 PM
Mar 20

Wars especially and economies in general need fuel.

reACTIONary

(7,170 posts)
12. If the facility is occupied ....
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:16 PM
Mar 20

.... Iran would no longer have any economic incentive to open the strait. If they can't use it, they won't let anyone use it.

EX500rider

(12,596 posts)
23. No one else can use it with out Iran continuing to pump oil there from the well heads.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 03:40 PM
Mar 20

Without that it quickly just becomes useless empty storage tanks.

Their issue is it's the only spot they have with deep enough water for large oil tankers.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,761 posts)
17. Iran is prepared to take everyone in the Gulf
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:39 PM
Mar 20

down with them. The Child Raping Regime is looking for an excuse to use a nuke.

Both will get their wish.

SamuelTheThird

(1,173 posts)
19. This could lead to worldwide nuclear war
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:43 PM
Mar 20

Israel or US nukes Iran. Putin nukes Ukraine. France nukes Russia...there you go.

EX500rider

(12,596 posts)
24. "Iran is prepared to take everyone in the Gulf.." Even more reason they can't be trusted with nukes IMO
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 03:41 PM
Mar 20

Miguelito Loveless

(5,761 posts)
27. They don't have any nukes
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:22 PM
Mar 20

They have been accused of being about to have them for 47 years, and yet they have never turned up. Iraq didn't have them either.

Are you telling me you believe the Child Rapist's claims?

EX500rider

(12,596 posts)
30. So they ruined their economy with sanctions & have thousands of centrifuges under a mountain..
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:29 PM
Mar 20

...enriching uranium to 60%+, way beyond what the 3 to 5% their nuclear power plant needs why exactly?

Eight years ago an Israeli Mossad operation got half a ton of top-secret Iranian nuclear weapons program documents out of Iran and back to Israel in less than 24 hours. The stolen documents showed that the nuclear program did exist and apparently was still underway disguised as many different scientific research projects.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,761 posts)
36. Something Israel claims
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:05 PM
Mar 20

And has claimed for 47 years. According to UN inspectors, Iran was complying with treaty requirements until Trump broke the agreement.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,761 posts)
34. Again, the claim is they have been working on them for 47 years
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:02 PM
Mar 20

Again, are you telling me you believe this dubious claim by Trump disputed by experts?

EX500rider

(12,596 posts)
35. And again why do they have centrifuges under a mountain enriching uranium to nuclear bomb percentages?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:04 PM
Mar 20

EX500rider

(12,596 posts)
38. That's the UN saying that not Trump or Israel
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:13 PM
Mar 20

The IAEA reports Iran holds 440.9 kilograms of uranium enriched up to 60% purity—a short technical step from 90% weapons-grade, allowing for roughly ten nuclear weapons if fully enriched.

PufPuf23

(9,870 posts)
40. Iran cannot win the war by strength and may end up a larger version of Gaza and a failed state.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:36 PM
Mar 20

What Iran is trying to do in bombing Arab countries that host US military is get the USA out of the Middle East.

Attacking Iran was a stupid act by the USA that looks to drag in other nations. Iran's biggest weapon is to hold the World economy hostage.

Israel cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.

EX500rider

(12,596 posts)
41. "Israel cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons." The facts would indicate otherwise IMO
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 07:16 PM
Mar 20

Israel is widely believed to have acquired its first deliverable nuclear weapons around 1966–1967.
And yet since 1966, Israel has been involved in at least six major wars and several significant military conflicts, primarily against neighboring Arab states and armed groups. Major wars include the 1967 Six-Day War, 1973 Yom Kippur War, 1982 Lebanon War, 2006 Lebanon War, and ongoing engagements.

Jack Valentino

(5,058 posts)
43. I don't trust Israel with nukes much more than I trust Iran--- BUT
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 10:21 PM
Mar 20

the open secret that Israel has them, and the fact that the US under Republicans has been a bully to everyone who doesn't have them, are two reasons why Iran might like to acquire them!

I don't see how Israel has any more right to nuclear weapons than Iran does---

Isn't it way past time to take away Israel's "weapons of mass destruction" ???

flashman13

(2,413 posts)
6. Because Iran "holds all of the good cards" Trump can't just declare victory and walk out.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:40 AM
Mar 20

The Iranians won't let him. They have stated their demands to open the Straits. In the real world you have to give something to get something.

So, if Trump can't can't control the situation, he will do the next best thing. He will blow up more of Iran's oil infrastructure. If enough Gulf infrastructure is destroyed in tit for tat exchanges, opening the Gulf becomes meaningless.

World wide depression here we come.

Bayard

(29,763 posts)
7. Do trump and Kegbreath ever consult any actual military experts?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:47 AM
Mar 20

Any of their own generals? I know trump thinks he's smarter than any of those people with many years of combat experience, and doesn't need their advice. He doesn't see where this lack of input has already put him in his quagmire?

Baitball Blogger

(52,394 posts)
9. Trump wants a blood sacrifice.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 12:04 PM
Mar 20

Look, if he was part of a network that systematically abused, killed and disposed of little girls and boys, why would he value the lives of our servicemen and women?

Congress people are insane enablers for allowing this to get this far. Not just with the war, but with the pedophilia.

maxsolomon

(38,750 posts)
10. they should have considered it before now.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 12:44 PM
Mar 20

there was probably someone in the gubmint that considered it at one time, like during the Biden Admin. maybe those considerations still exist even if that employee got DOGEd off the payroll?

occupying the island is probably lower risk than most would think - Iran won't want to damage the petroleum or LNG facilities. any ships supporting an occupation would be targets though.

Farmer-Rick

(12,683 posts)
26. Why won't Iran want to damage the petro
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:20 PM
Mar 20

Or LNG facilities?

What do they have to lose? The pedo has already bombed the hell out of their mainland and the island on 13 March. With US troops willing to die to hold the island, Iran won't have access to those facilities or petro anyway. Seems like blowing up the island and killing more American troops would be revenge against the US.

maxsolomon

(38,750 posts)
29. because they are self-interested.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:26 PM
Mar 20

this regime needs oil income to sustain itself. if Kharg is destroyed, they have few other options to get oil to market.

the oil income is the reason the regime can be so repressive - they have endless money to pay the Basij and the IRG.

EX500rider

(12,596 posts)
25. Be out of range for most their artillery @ 25 miles+ unless they line it up exposed on the beach
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 03:51 PM
Mar 20

Be more of the same drones + IRBM's.
But with a 5 x 2 miles wide target zone the interception becomes easier then the current trying to cover the whole Middle East.

Red Mountain

(2,349 posts)
32. Why would they stop attacking the rest of the ME?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:36 PM
Mar 20

If it's easier for us to defend wouldn't they just tie up our resources with occasional large scale drone attacks? Why would they allow us to turn their asymmetric attacks into symmetric ones that work better for us?

Answer: they won't.

We can take Kharg Island and those troops can sit there. I think it would suit the Iranians just fine.

EX500rider

(12,596 posts)
33. Well the issue for them is that's where 90% of the oil leaves from
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:47 PM
Mar 20

And currently they are still shipping oil, without it they will soon run out of money to pay all their thugs to keep the civilians in line.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,761 posts)
16. Let's see:
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:37 PM
Mar 20

He has told the enemy his plans 2-3 weeks in advance. Iran is now likely to write off the island as lost, then make the marines and every oil producer in the region pay for it dearly.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,852 posts)
42. US speeds up deployment of thousands more Marines, sailors to Middle East
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 07:53 PM
Mar 20

The Pentagon is speeding up the deployment of thousands of additional Marines and sailors to the Middle East amid speculation that the Trump administration could send troops into Iranian territory.

The 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), made up of at least 2,200 Marines, set off from San Diego aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Boxer on Wednesday, sooner than expected, according to multiple reports.

Reuters reported that the troops ​departed the U.S. about three weeks ahead of schedule.

A Pentagon official told The Hill that due to operations security, it does not discuss “future or hypothetical movements.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-speeds-deployment-thousands-more-153630661.html

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