US Democratic lawmaker Raskin seeks commission to oversee removal of presidents

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: msn/Reuters

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WASHINGTON, April 10 (Reuters) - U.S. Representative Jamie Raskin of Maryland told fellow House Democrats on Friday that he will introduce legislation creating a commission to facilitate the removal of any president deemed unable to carry out their duties, according to a House Judiciary Committee spokeswoman.

A "Commission on Presidential Capacity to Discharge the Powers and Duties of the Office" bill was first introduced by Raskin, now the senior Democrat on the committee, in 2020, when Donald Trump was in his first presidential term.

In recent days, Democrats in Congress have begun talking about pushing for the impeachment of Trump, now in his second term, or trying to trigger the 25th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which provides the bare-bones process for taking away a president's power in a procedure separate from impeachment.

Trump earlier this week caused widespread alarm and anger after he said "a whole civilization will die" in Iran unless its government agreed to allow ships to freely pass through the Strait of Hormuz. Shipping there has been interrupted following Trump's decision to launch, along with Israel, a military attack on Iran that began on February 28. The Raskin legislation is unlikely to advance in the Republican-controlled House, where Speaker Mike Johnson is a strong defender of Trump.

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[Chasstev365]

1. Careful Jaime:

Republicans will use this against ever elected Democratic presidents going forth, even when their is nothing there. They are masters at creating a false narrative and never doing anything in a bipartisan manner for the good of the country.

Republicans are a political predators who never act n good faith.
Look at what they did to Grey Davis in California.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Republicans would have done this too in any case if Biden hadn't recused himself

and won the 2024 election.

But their malevolence and manipulation would have been called out.

If Biden were truly incapacitated, democratic leaders would have visited the WH and made a case in compassion and patriotism to him.

[Polybius]

5. "democratic leaders would have visited the WH and made a case in compassion and patriotism to him"

They did exactly that in June and July of 2024. He dropped out on the 21st.

[Martin68]

3. The problem is Republicans will use it to try to remove every democratic president.

[Ponietz]

4. A commission is only as good as its members

Institutional ethics is impossible without individual ethics. This leads nowhere.

[Bayard]

6. Why not just impeach him?

[BumRushDaShow]

7. Because we impeached him twice already

but unless we have 67 votes in the Senate to "remove", then we'll be back to square one and no change.

[onenote]

9. Correct. And the proposed legislation wouldn't change the fact you need 2/3 of the Senate AND House

to force a president out of office using the 25th amendment.

Would members of Congress be more reluctant to support a president who has been found to be unable to carry out the "powers and duties" of the office? One would hope so, but it's no guarantee. Nor is there any guarantee that a 'commission' would find that someone like Trump is unable to carry out the powers of the duties of the office because he carries them out in a way that most people find to be irrational.

[BumRushDaShow]

10. "Would members of Congress be more reluctant to support a president

who has been found to be unable to carry out the "powers and duties" of the office?"

Politics is cutthroat. There are many opportunists there. It will depend on whether one of the underlings decides to challenge the Alpha to take over.

In the Animal Kingdom, that is standard - one will make the attempt if they see the Alpha is "weak". IOW, there may be a "Brutus" among the bunch but I have no idea who that might be.

[J_William_Ryan]

8. This is a problem neither a commission nor the impeachment process can address.

This is a fundamental failure of the American political process, that the likes of Trump would be elected to begin with – a fundamental failure of democracy and democracy’s greatest weakness: the voter.

The people are solely responsible for the bad government they get.

[reACTIONary]

11. Here is the text of the bill....

.... https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8548/text