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BumRushDaShow

(171,303 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:05 AM Apr 12

Trump says U.S. will blockade Strait of Hormuz after Iran peace talks fail

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Source: CNBC

Published Sun, Apr 12 20269:01 AM EDT Updated 26 Min Ago


President Donald Trump on Sunday said the U.S. will blockade the Strait of Hormuz after talks held in Pakistan to end the Iran war hit the skids. “Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz,” Trump said in a post to his social media platform Truth Social. “The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Iran will not be allowed to profit off this Illegal Act of EXTORTION.”

The announcement of a U.S. blockade of the strait likely scuttles any hopes that the war would end in the coming days following peace talks in Islamabad. It also threatens to exacerbate the economic crisis that has gripped global economies since the war broke out and Iran began restricting access to the strait, a chokepoint which carries about a fifth of the world’s oil.

Trump said the U.S. blockade is an effort to stop Iran from policing the strait and benefiting economically while the rest of the world suffers from its closure. “At some point, we will reach an ‘ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO IN, ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO OUT’ basis, but Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, ‘There may be a mine out there somewhere,’ that nobody knows about but them,” he said. “THIS IS WORLD EXTORTION, and Leaders of Countries, especially the United States of America, will never be extorted.”

Trump also announced in the post that the U.S. Navy will “seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran.”

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/12/trump-iran-war-strait-of-hormuz.html



So make things worse.

Article updated.

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Published Sun, Apr 12 2026 9:01 AM EDT Updated 12 Min Ago


President Donald Trump on Sunday said the U.S. will blockade the Strait of Hormuz after talks held in Pakistan to end the Iran war hit the skids.

"Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz," Trump said in a post to his social media platform Truth Social. "The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Iran will not be allowed to profit off this Illegal Act of EXTORTION."

The announcement of a U.S. blockade of the strait likely scuttles any hopes that the war would end in the coming days following peace talks in Islamabad. It also threatens to exacerbate the economic crisis that has gripped global economies since the war broke out and Iran began restricting access to the strait, a chokepoint which carries about a fifth of the world's oil.

Trump said the U.S. blockade is an effort to stop Iran from policing the strait and benefiting economically while the rest of the world suffers from its closure. "At some point, we will reach an 'ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO IN, ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO OUT' basis, but Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, 'There may be a mine out there somewhere,' that nobody knows about but them," he said. "THIS IS WORLD EXTORTION, and Leaders of Countries, especially the United States of America, will never be extorted."

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Published Sun, Apr 12 2026 9:01 AM EDT Updated 3 Min Ago


President Donald Trump on Sunday said the U.S. will blockade the Strait of Hormuz after talks held in Pakistan to end the Iran war hit the skids.

"Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz," Trump said in a post to his social media platform Truth Social.


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Trump says U.S. will blockade Strait of Hormuz after Iran peace talks fail (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 12 OP
Trump believes he's unstoppable C_U_L8R Apr 12 #1
Reality will stop him. paleotn Apr 12 #24
The toddler in dippers speaks! frogstar0 Apr 12 #2
Brilliant. What better way to let the world know that the US closed the strait in the first place? taxi Apr 12 #3
So what is Iran's next move? Irish_Dem Apr 12 #4
I wouldn't go so far as "brilliant"... Shipwack Apr 12 #57
They are the only ones so far who have stood up to the orange F-Wad. Irish_Dem Apr 12 #64
Agree. ananda Apr 12 #68
US congress, courts, institutions have all been a huge disappointment too. Irish_Dem Apr 12 #69
Dayum, it sure looks that way. ananda Apr 12 #70
Baby steps. I guess better than nothing. Irish_Dem Apr 12 #71
I concede your point... :) nt Shipwack Apr 12 #79
Good thinking Donny put our ships and troops close to where they can be hit by Iranian drones and missiles Botany Apr 12 #5
He fired everyone who might give him info he doesn't want to hear. OnlinePoker Apr 12 #33
His negotiating team couldn't recognize a peace offer bucolic_frolic Apr 12 #6
More stock manipulation ahead. travelingthrulife Apr 12 #35
Severe global financial disruption & depression then eventual total collapes of numerous world economies.. magicarpet Apr 12 #55
Enter Creepto currency... BattleRow Apr 12 #61
This might have been the... Um, what is that word again.... Uh... Hugin Apr 12 #7
How many different positions has he had in the last week. travelingthrulife Apr 12 #37
Everything seems like a petroglyph lately. Hugin Apr 12 #46
What could go wrong with that. multigraincracker Apr 12 #8
Good luck with that JBTaurus83 Apr 12 #9
How exactly is a blockade of multinational ships in international waters going to work? Hugin Apr 12 #15
You are being logical. Logic is not factored in to these "plans." Amaryllis Apr 12 #34
Do they plan to blow up the ships that Iran allows to go through the strait? travelingthrulife Apr 12 #38
A threat is enough PCB66 Apr 12 #72
Wait till oil starts trading later today. Off the charts....... Bengus81 Apr 12 #10
At least. Going to get really ugly at the pump. paleotn Apr 12 #18
Big OIl loves this plan IronLionZion Apr 12 #23
More from BBC nitpicked Apr 12 #11
Are we skipping over the "safe passage" part? underpants Apr 12 #51
More like b/c Iran refused a split of the tolls with no_hypocrisy Apr 12 #12
I'm sure that was part of the motivation for the blockade. wnylib Apr 12 #62
Wasn't Iran already doing that for him? JohnnyRingo Apr 12 #13
You're not blockading it, I'M blockading it! tanyev Apr 12 #54
Wet trDUMP's Beak,... magicarpet Apr 12 #58
That sums it up nicely, doesn't it? JohnnyRingo Apr 13 #86
This "plan" is called: making shit up as they go along. nt Javaman Apr 12 #14
We are all screwed as predicted by most sane people 6 weeks ago. nt BootinUp Apr 12 #16
At least 10 years ago. travelingthrulife Apr 12 #40
When will the cowardly congressional republicans join the Democrats in congress lostincalifornia Apr 12 #17
Full text: dalton99a Apr 12 #19
If we were Iran, would we being willing to give up our nuclear ambitions after recent events? paleotn Apr 12 #21
+1. Iran will have nuclear weapons because of Trump & Netanyahu. dalton99a Apr 12 #22
Iran has a stronger case than ever to have nuclear weapons and energy. travelingthrulife Apr 12 #41
That hurts the Gulf states, the US, and global economy more than Iran, Donnie. TACO in 3...2...1 paleotn Apr 12 #20
But Donnie and his pals are all set with their market bets. Demento Donnie travelingthrulife Apr 12 #42
Can't wait to see MAGAts try to spin this one as N-dimensional chess IronLionZion Apr 12 #25
This is the only move that could actually break iran's blockade. mathematic Apr 12 #26
I guess China will not sit silently wolfie001 Apr 12 #27
Yes, the idea is that China then pressures Iran. mathematic Apr 12 #31
I don't think China has to fire a shot wolfie001 Apr 12 #49
You are under the illusion this is going to work. lol. nt BootinUp Apr 12 #28
I absolutely am not. A strategy doesn't need to be sucessful to be the option that makes the most sense. nt mathematic Apr 12 #29
The correct strategy is qualified negotiators and a lot less bluster. nt BootinUp Apr 12 #30
? There is no negotiation to be had. The parties are so far apart that the suggestion is fantasy. nt mathematic Apr 12 #32
Are you going to tell us what an imminent threat Iran was in your next post? BootinUp Apr 12 #39
Not an imminent threat to the world from nukes. wnylib Apr 12 #65
What is strange is that it was open before Trump's bonehead moves and now travelingthrulife Apr 12 #43
Yeah, I agree, "nobody can use the straight but Iran" is not a good move, gives them no incentive to open it EX500rider Apr 12 #74
Frigging loon. Scrivener7 Apr 12 #36
"Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade" Bayard Apr 12 #44
How the fuck does this help the situation Pototan Apr 12 #45
TOFU: Trump Only Fucks Up LetMyPeopleVote Apr 12 #47
5D High IQ Move Adeptus2272 Apr 12 #48
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Apr 12 #80
So our Rebl2 Apr 12 #50
There's only one positive I can think of. Trump has just giving the midterm elections to the Democrats. Doodley Apr 12 #52
What next. Bomb NYC if we don't get our way? CanonRay Apr 12 #53
This makes sense. I believe trump and the republican's goal is to destroy the USA mucifer Apr 12 #56
Iran has it blocked, not ok. US blocks it, ok. Any questions? twodogsbarking Apr 12 #59
Hmm... let me check. OldBaldy1701E Apr 12 #60
So, America is now the bad guys for hurting the world economy? Norrrm Apr 12 #63
"Are we the baddies?" sakabatou Apr 12 #67
*facedesk* sakabatou Apr 12 #66
Fine, now American businesses that were waiting on products can go out of business dumbass! ChicagoTeamster Apr 12 #73
Sane washing Piggy's babysitter's crazy bullshit post MorbidButterflyTat Apr 12 #75
Overt evidence that both sides want higher oil prices. Doing Iran's work for them bucolic_frolic Apr 12 #76
If we can't have it, no one can!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 12 #77
Trump wants in on that sweet $2M Iranian transit "tariff" Zorro Apr 12 #78
TOFU LetMyPeopleVote Apr 12 #81
Blockade the partial blockade and make it . . . better? Aussie105 Apr 12 #82
"Ships coming out, ships trying to go in, with the US navy in the middle saying 'You Shall Not Pass!'" BumRushDaShow Apr 12 #83
Oil futures are already up 8% since Trump's announcement. Wiz Imp Apr 12 #84
Spot WTI has been hovering around $105/bbl BumRushDaShow Apr 12 #85

taxi

(2,748 posts)
3. Brilliant. What better way to let the world know that the US closed the strait in the first place?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:18 AM
Apr 12

Shipwack

(3,097 posts)
57. I wouldn't go so far as "brilliant"...
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:42 AM
Apr 12

Definitely competent and unified, though. At least outwardly unified.

I think they wait a couple of days and see if TACOs are on the menu, then take action.

At the very least announce that more mines are in place, whether that is true or not.

Irish_Dem

(81,986 posts)
64. They are the only ones so far who have stood up to the orange F-Wad.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:23 PM
Apr 12

And beaten him at his own game.

I call that courage and brilliance.

Irish_Dem

(81,986 posts)
69. US congress, courts, institutions have all been a huge disappointment too.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:41 PM
Apr 12

And most of the world.

All have bowed down to pure evil.

ananda

(35,371 posts)
70. Dayum, it sure looks that way.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:44 PM
Apr 12

Well.. some European countries did refuse to
let Trump use their air space.

Botany

(77,671 posts)
5. Good thinking Donny put our ships and troops close to where they can be hit by Iranian drones and missiles
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:19 AM
Apr 12

This will get people killed.

&t=1s

Doesn’t Trump have any advisors to tell him this a bad idea?

OnlinePoker

(6,142 posts)
33. He fired everyone who might give him info he doesn't want to hear.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:53 AM
Apr 12

Now, it's just his sycophants that surround him.

bucolic_frolic

(55,547 posts)
6. His negotiating team couldn't recognize a peace offer
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:19 AM
Apr 12

if it had a white flag attached to it.

The ease with which the breakdown of talks is accepted warrants scrutiny in my mind. Let me be clear: This is an opportunity for more world turmoil and more .............. .......... ............ TACO Trades!!

magicarpet

(19,084 posts)
55. Severe global financial disruption & depression then eventual total collapes of numerous world economies..
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:40 AM
Apr 12

Hugin

(37,937 posts)
7. This might have been the... Um, what is that word again.... Uh...
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:20 AM
Apr 12

Plan? Nah, too definitive. Concept of a vague idea, better.

All along. But, first the Turd Reich had to go through a pantomime of negotiations. Which is why the throwaway Vance was sent.

Blockade the strait from whom exactly and why? I guess Trump’s thinky meat wants a toll too. All a blockade will accomplish is making the whole world hate the US more and it won’t shorten the war by a day.

travelingthrulife

(5,457 posts)
37. How many different positions has he had in the last week.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:55 AM
Apr 12

And Republicans STILL refuse to throw him overboard. How many murders does it take for a Republican to face reality?

Hugin

(37,937 posts)
46. Everything seems like a petroglyph lately.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:07 AM
Apr 12

I’m giving up on seeing any action in any direction. It’s all a downward spiral like anyone is afraid or unwilling to move.

Hugin

(37,937 posts)
15. How exactly is a blockade of multinational ships in international waters going to work?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:44 AM
Apr 12

Is the US Navy going to threaten to fire on or ram commercial vessels? Where’s the fine line distinguishing this from piracy?

The US Navy is a very good navy. But, it’s not the only navy in the world.

PCB66

(148 posts)
72. A threat is enough
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:02 PM
Apr 12

These commercial ships are controlled by risk insurance. If a threat exist the insurance counties will deny coverage.

Military ships can challenge a blockade but commercial shipping will not.

Bengus81

(10,290 posts)
10. Wait till oil starts trading later today. Off the charts.......
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:24 AM
Apr 12

How about a $20 jump..........

nitpicked

(1,925 posts)
11. More from BBC
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:26 AM
Apr 12
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn4v0xm9y0kt
(snip)

US Navy to start 'blockading any and all ships' trying to enter or leave Strait of Hormuz, says Trump
09:06

(snip)
In a lengthy new post on Truth Social, he says that "the meeting went well, most points were agreed to, but the only point that really mattered, NUCLEAR, was not".

He says that "at some point" an agreement on free passage will be reached, but "Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, 'There may be a mine out there somewhere,' that nobody knows about but them."

In the same post Trump also says that he's "instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran", and that the US Navy is going to start " destroying the mines the Iranians laid in the Straits".

"No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the high seas," he says, adding "any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL!"
(snip)

underpants

(196,946 posts)
51. Are we skipping over the "safe passage" part?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:30 AM
Apr 12

I hope he means they won’t be let through…I hope.

wnylib

(26,315 posts)
62. I'm sure that was part of the motivation for the blockade.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:06 PM
Apr 12

But another motive could be to block China from shipping weapons to Iran. I read yesterday that China was, or soon will be, doing that.

If it weren't for the dangers and world instability of this situation, it would be laughable that tsf accuses someone else of extortion.

Are there enough US Navy ships in the region to completely block off both ends of the strait so that no other ships could get past without ramming them? What happens if a Chinese ship refuses to stop? Will tsf order the Navy to fire at it, setting off war with China? Will other nations band together with China to force a showdown?

International ships playing chicken in a narrow strait of water.

If the Navy removes mines and tsf opens the strait, will he decide which nations can use it? Will he -- without a shred of irony-- charge fees to pass through the straight? His excuse would be to recover the costs of getting the strait open.

JohnnyRingo

(20,959 posts)
13. Wasn't Iran already doing that for him?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:39 AM
Apr 12

Sheeesh! This guy wants credit for everything.

Of course Trump is just trying to get a little action on that toll booth money. The late Tony Soprano would be proud.

tanyev

(49,478 posts)
54. You're not blockading it, I'M blockading it!
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:34 AM
Apr 12

A Trump variation on “You’re not breaking up with me, I’m breaking up with you!”




magicarpet

(19,084 posts)
58. Wet trDUMP's Beak,...
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:45 AM
Apr 12

Derived from Wiktionary,...

Wet your beak" is an idiom, often associated with gangster slang, meaning to take a share of the financial proceeds, profits, or benefits from a business deal or, frequently, illicit activity. It is used to describe getting a "cut" or a small portion of money, notably mentioned in mafia-themed media.
Wiktionary, the free dictionary

Usage Examples and Meaning:
Taking a Cut: It indicates a desire for personal profit. For example, "Before the deal closes, he wants to wet his beak".
Mafia/Gangster Context: Famous in mafia slang, meaning to collect a bribe or a share of protection money, as seen in The Godfather, where it refers to taking a small percentage of profits.
Less Common Literal Usage: Rarely, it can idiomatically mean to have a drink of a beverage.
Wiktionary, the free dictionary

Synonyms and Related Phrases:
Get a cut/slice of the pie.
Take a share.
Wet one's whistle (usually means to have a drink, though often confused).
Collect a kickback.
Merriam-Webster

The phrase implies a demand or expectation of profit for allowing a deal to proceed or for providing protection.
Wiktionary, the free dictionary

JohnnyRingo

(20,959 posts)
86. That sums it up nicely, doesn't it?
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 12:00 AM
Apr 13

Was there a picture of Trump in the article?
He doesn't drink so the only one above that isn't him is the "sip from a beverage".

lostincalifornia

(5,476 posts)
17. When will the cowardly congressional republicans join the Democrats in congress
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:47 AM
Apr 12

to stop the degenerate in the WH before he starts WWIII?

dalton99a

(94,918 posts)
19. Full text:
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:04 AM
Apr 12

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Iran promised to open the Strait of Hormuz, and they knowingly failed to do so. This caused anxiety, dislocation, and pain to many people and Countries throughout the World. They say they put mines in the water, even though all of their Navy, and most of their “mine droppers,” have been completely blown up. They may have done so, but what ship owner would want to take the chance? There is great dishonor and permanent harm to the reputation of Iran, and what’s left of their “Leaders,” but we are beyond all of that. As they promised, they better begin the process of getting this INTERNATIONAL WATERWAY OPEN AND FAST! Every Law in the book is being violated by them. I have been fully debriefed by Vice President JD Vance, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, and Jared Kushner, on the meeting that took place in Islamabad through the kind and very competent leadership of Field Marshal Asim Munir, and Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, of Pakistan. They are very extraordinary men, and continuously thank me for saving 30 to 50 million lives in what would have been a horrendous War with India. I always appreciate hearing that — The amount of Humanity spoken of is incomprehensible.

The meeting with Iran began early in the morning, and lasted throughout the night — Close to 20 hours. I could go into great detail, and talk about much that has been gotten but, there is only one thing that matters — IRAN IS UNWILLING TO GIVE UP ITS NUCLEAR AMBITIONS! In many ways, the points that were agreed to are better than us continuing our Military Operations to conclusion, but all of those points don’t matter compared to allowing Nuclear Power to be in the hands of such volatile, difficult, unpredictable people. My three Representatives, as all of this time went by, became, not surprisingly, very friendly and respectful of Iran’s Representatives, Mohammad-Bagher Ghalibaf, Abbas Araghchi, and Ali Bagheri, but that doesn’t matter because they were very unyielding as to the single most important issue and, as I have always said, right from the beginning, and many years ago, IRAN WILL NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON!

So, there you have it, the meeting went well, most points were agreed to, but the only point that really mattered, NUCLEAR, was not. Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz. At some point, we will reach an “ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO IN, ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO OUT” basis, but Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, “There may be a mine out there somewhere,” that nobody knows about but them. THIS IS WORLD EXTORTION, and Leaders of Countries, especially the United States of America, will never be extorted. I have also instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran. No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the high seas. We will also begin destroying the mines the Iranians laid in the Straits. Any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL! Iran knows, better than anyone, how to END this situation which has already devastated their Country. Their Navy is gone, their Air Force is gone, their Anti Aircraft and Radar are useless, Khomeini, and most of their “Leaders,” are dead, all because of their Nuclear ambition. The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Iran will not be allowed to profit off this Illegal Act of EXTORTION. They want money and, more importantly, they want Nuclear. Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully “LOCKED AND LOADED,” and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran! President DONALD J. TRUMP

Apr 12, 2026, 7:53 AM

paleotn

(22,515 posts)
21. If we were Iran, would we being willing to give up our nuclear ambitions after recent events?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:13 AM
Apr 12

Oh, hell no!

dalton99a

(94,918 posts)
22. +1. Iran will have nuclear weapons because of Trump & Netanyahu.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:19 AM
Apr 12
Mr. Trump believes that he emerged the victor of the conflict, and therefore, as the special envoy Steve Witkoff puts it, Iran should simply “capitulate.”

That is not how it happened in the past. The last major agreement between Tehran and Washington, reached during the Obama administration, took two years to negotiate. And it was full of compromises, including allowing Iran to retain a small amount of its nuclear stockpile, and gradually lifting the restrictions on its nuclear activities until 2030, when Iran would be permitted to conduct any nuclear activity permissible under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

But the deadlock Mr. Vance ran into was essentially the same as the ones that derailed negotiations in late February, and prompted Mr. Trump to order the attack. (That negotiation was run by Mr. Witkoff and Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, who were present in Islamabad during the more than 20 hours of negotiations.)

Back then, the Iranians offered to “suspend” their nuclear operations for a few years, but not to give up their stockpiles of near-bomb-grade uranium or permanently surrender the capability to enrich uranium on their own soil. To the Iranians, that is their right as a signatory of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which commits them to never making a nuclear weapon. To the Americans, it is what Mr. Witkoff called “a tell” that Iran always wants a ready option to build a nuclear weapon, even if it never exercises that option.

Thirty-eight days of war appear to have hardened that view, not loosened it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/12/us/politics/vance-iran-talks.html

travelingthrulife

(5,457 posts)
41. Iran has a stronger case than ever to have nuclear weapons and energy.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:59 AM
Apr 12

Trump has proved again and again that we will attack them without reason.

paleotn

(22,515 posts)
20. That hurts the Gulf states, the US, and global economy more than Iran, Donnie. TACO in 3...2...1
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:13 AM
Apr 12

Just as soon as markets open.

Some Iranian crude has been transiting the strait lately, despite the sanctions. I wondered if that was some gesture of good will as some sort of talks were going on. Who the hell knows? Now the US is going to block even 3rd party shipments who made a side deal with Tehran. If Trump thinks that will hurt the rest of the world more than the US, he's in for a rather rude lesson on global trade inter-connectivity. There are no trade islands anymore. No one is truly insulated.

travelingthrulife

(5,457 posts)
42. But Donnie and his pals are all set with their market bets. Demento Donnie
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:00 AM
Apr 12

TACOs again and some people get more fabulously wealthy.

mathematic

(1,615 posts)
26. This is the only move that could actually break iran's blockade.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:39 AM
Apr 12

Why is everybody acting like this is some kind of strange move? "Strange" is invading Karge Island and thinking it'll be a bargaining chip. "Strange" is thinking you can drop enough bombs on bridges that would break a blockade.

"Strange" is NOT saying, "if you're stopping everybody else from using it, we'll stop you from using it." That actually makes sense. Will it be bad for oil markets? Sure, Iranian oil will be blockaded along with Iran's blockade of ships to and from Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Oman. Will a blockade of Iran-friendly vessels make the rest of the world mad? They didn't seem mad enough to do anything about Iran's blockade of Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Oman, so I'm not sure why this, in particular, would put them over the edge.

mathematic

(1,615 posts)
31. Yes, the idea is that China then pressures Iran.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:51 AM
Apr 12

Or are you under the impression that China wants a conflict with the US Navy years before they're prepared for it, even within range of land based weapons, much less nowhere near Chinese waters?

China's current strategy of doing nothing (or even relatively profiting off the situation) is obviously non-tenable if their oil isn't getting through.

wolfie001

(7,874 posts)
49. I don't think China has to fire a shot
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:15 AM
Apr 12

Just float their Naval assets right by the US ships. Announce to the world that they're going to protect shipping. Global Kabuki theater.

mathematic

(1,615 posts)
29. I absolutely am not. A strategy doesn't need to be sucessful to be the option that makes the most sense. nt
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:48 AM
Apr 12

mathematic

(1,615 posts)
32. ? There is no negotiation to be had. The parties are so far apart that the suggestion is fantasy. nt
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:52 AM
Apr 12

wnylib

(26,315 posts)
65. Not an imminent threat to the world from nukes.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:38 PM
Apr 12

But, Iran was an imminent threat to Trump's plans for his resort in Gaza.

travelingthrulife

(5,457 posts)
43. What is strange is that it was open before Trump's bonehead moves and now
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:03 AM
Apr 12

it is not. I suspect Iran can last longer than the US. As soon as Demento Donnie's war stock trading goes south, he will taco.

EX500rider

(12,663 posts)
74. Yeah, I agree, "nobody can use the straight but Iran" is not a good move, gives them no incentive to open it
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:27 PM
Apr 12
Oil production constitutes approximately 18% to 23% of Iran's total GDP. While the sector is a significant driver of economic growth,, its direct contribution fluctuates based on global prices and sanctions, often accounting for a quarter of the nation's total economic output and a substantial share of government revenue.

Pototan

(3,197 posts)
45. How the fuck does this help the situation
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:04 AM
Apr 12

The Strait is closed to all but a handful of ships, and now Trump wants to block that handful.

This action will cause the price of oil to increase even more.

Iran won't be able to get their ships out, so why the fuck to Trump lift the sanctions on Iranian oil on the high seas in the first place.

Doodley

(12,025 posts)
52. There's only one positive I can think of. Trump has just giving the midterm elections to the Democrats.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:31 AM
Apr 12

mucifer

(25,704 posts)
56. This makes sense. I believe trump and the republican's goal is to destroy the USA
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:41 AM
Apr 12

this is one more step in obtaining that goal.

Just like destroying our economy with tariffs and "tax cuts" , destroying the CDC, FDA, EPA, FEMA. Next social security medicare and medicaid.

The goal is NOT to win this war.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,372 posts)
60. Hmm... let me check.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:55 AM
Apr 12

Yep, he is still sitting in the Oval Office.

So... keep on complaining and hope that does something?

ChicagoTeamster

(1,135 posts)
73. Fine, now American businesses that were waiting on products can go out of business dumbass!
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:12 PM
Apr 12

The stupid overgrown bully thinks he can bully the whole world.

Now it's Trump (not the US) blockading the strait of Hormuz.
Now it's Trump (not the US) that tried to extort Iran for cash as a pre-condition for a ceasefire.
Now it's Trump (not the US) adding more economic uncertainty to the problems he already created with his tariff bullshit

bucolic_frolic

(55,547 posts)
76. Overt evidence that both sides want higher oil prices. Doing Iran's work for them
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 02:29 PM
Apr 12

because our oil companies benefit too.

The press told you where this is going. $200 a barrel. Then there is opportunity - TACO Trade! Short oil at $200 and watch is drop to $125.

YMMV, Your Numbers may be different, plug in your own!

Aussie105

(8,102 posts)
82. Blockade the partial blockade and make it . . . better?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:15 PM
Apr 12

How is that going to work?

I'm guessing a whole bunch of ships will pass out of the Straight, to be met by US Navy ships.

What happens then?

Ships coming out, ships trying to go in, with the US navy in the middle saying 'You Shall Not Pass!'



BumRushDaShow

(171,303 posts)
83. "Ships coming out, ships trying to go in, with the US navy in the middle saying 'You Shall Not Pass!'"
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:41 PM
Apr 12

It'll be like something out of Monty Python!



Wiz Imp

(10,248 posts)
84. Oil futures are already up 8% since Trump's announcement.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:54 PM
Apr 12
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/12/oil-prices-iran-war-strait-hormuz-blockade.html
Crude oil prices surged on Sunday, as the U.S. Navy prepares to impose a blockade on Iran’s ports after peace talks failed over the weekend.

U.S. crude oil futures for May delivery jumped nearly 8% to $104.20 per barrel by 6:13 p.m. ET. International benchmark Brent for June delivery advanced 7% to $101.86.

U.S. Central Command said Sunday the military will blockade all maritime traffic entering and exiting Iranian ports on Monday at 10 a.m. ET. It added that the U.S. will not impede vessels transiting to and from non-Iranian ports.
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