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[SSJVegeta]

1. Typical blame Biden BS

[Miguelito Loveless]

8. The problem I saw

Was that the Corporate Media was all in to tank Biden and boost Trump. Billionaires controlled the narrative.

[Fiendish Thingy]

2. What it leaves out speaks louder than what was included

My understanding is there was no discussion of Biden’s decision to run for a second term and whether that was the best choice strategically, or whether an open primary without Biden would have given Dems a better chance of engaging voters, increasing turnout, and winning the White House.

[dawn5651]

3. as i remember it harris was saying some pretty uncomplimentary things about biden..when was he supposed to have sucked

it up and praised her to the hilt..

[Slider19]

11. Can you give examples of this?

I dont remember that happening. Thanks in advance

[dawn5651]

14. bidens re election campaign was reckless, accused the biden white house of failing to support her,

angry at biden for making the disastrous debate with krasnov all about biden and no support for her debate. while i dont consider myself a fan of harris even i admit she is a million times better than krasnov

[blue-wave]

4. Great Timing!!

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Let's release this flawed "autopsy" five months before the midterms. Great way to divide the Democratic Party!! Who is really behind this?

[BaronChocula]

13. Yeah, dubious returns on this piece of work

But it'll most likely be forgotten in a week. Any complaints anyone has about Dems, true or fictitious are being muted by the failure of this current corrupt, inept kleptocracy.

[gopiscrap]

5. how about the fact that the Republicans cheated

[lostincalifornia]

6. I blame people like Nina Turner, Briana Joy Gray, Cornell West, Talib Rishada, etc. who constantly

slammed President Biden and VP Harris in such derogatory words by saying "endorsing Joe Biden for president would be like eating a "bowl of s**t", etc. along with a hostile media along with green party trolls only too eager to push division among Democrats.

This started in 2000 with the nader groupies "no difference between Democrats and republicans", culminated in 2016 against Hillary and our losing the Supreme Court, and finalized in 2024.

[QueerDuck]

16. Yes. Those... among others.

IWNN, YKWIM.

[angrychair]

7. This is ridiculous

There is no legitimate way to have an honest discussion on this subject.

People sure don't mind shitting on progressives and blaming them in connection with this report and that's ok but there is no way to have an open discussion on this subject.

[pat_k]

9. There are points when criticism is demanded. And there are points where unity is demanded.

I fear that in my 47 years as an adult member of the Democratic Party (not counting babysitting so people could get to the polls to vote for McGovern when I was 12), I have never seen "us" get this one right.

Either unity is demanded, and enforced inside the beltway on things that require more internal debate. Or we fall into circular firing squad mode when unity is absolutely called for to oppose a Republican threat.

And in re: 2024. I can't tell you how many arguments I had with my step-father throughout 2022 and into 2023. I was adamant that Biden should absolutely NOT run. He accused me of being ageist and made the case that Biden was our best shot.

When Biden announced his intention to run for a second term I cried. I felt betrayed. He was breaking his promise to be a "bridge" to a new generation of leaders. And we had some fantastic leaders "on the bench." But I pulled myself together and tried to internalize some of those "he's our best shot" arguments from my step-father.

I refrained from posting my fears. I did my best to be upbeat. But the dread never left me. A couple months before the fateful debate, my step-father raised the subject. He said I had been right. He'd been watching Biden on the campaign trail. He said he agreed that Biden shouldn't have run, and he was scared as hell that it was a fatal mistake for the Democratic Party. I did the "brave face" thing and touted all I could find that was going "for us." But I felt the same dread.

I'm not sure where this leaves me. Angry at the party for falling into an "It's his turn, his decision" stance and silencing any critic or challenge? Angry that the party didn't get behind him 100%? I don't know.

But I can't say that I didn't have a hell of a lot of sympathy for people who started calling on him to drop out.

[betsuni]

10. During both Obama and Biden economy got better but perceived as getting worse.

Negative media coverage, anti-Democratic propaganda from all directions, voter suppression. Swimming upstream and the swimmer is blamed if they can't win.

[fujiyamasan]

12. I'm not seeing any honest discussion (even here) over this so called autopsy

It really doesn’t say anything new and posts about it aren’t either.

The report doesn’t focus on any particular policies. It doesn’t say what the party can do to improve its standing overall. It’s just another grift, written by a bunch of highly paid consultants.

Just some fodder for the chattering class. I can see why Martin didn’t want to release it. Then again, why commission this, if it was always going to be such an exercise in futility? It sounds like no one wants to face tough facts or admit that major mistakes were made, and they go back pretty far.

[Aussie105]

15. It is never the job of an outgoing president or party to 'set things up' for the next.

The candidates need to make their own noise, their own mark on the electorate.

Harris did her best - the electorate wasn't listening, wasn't ready for a female president.

Same happened to the previous female 'almost' president.

https://www.thoughtco.com/women-who-ran-for-president-3529994

"More than 50 women have sought to occupy the highest office in the land."

America, the land of the free - and the land of racists and 'never a female president' misogynism.

Strange - other countries look for competence, not skin color or gender.