Carville says he wouldn't seat Mamdani-backed Avila Chevalier in caucus: 'She's not a Democrat'
Source: The Hill
Democratic strategist James Carville said he wouldnt place Darializa Avila Chevalier, the Democratic nominee for New Yorks 13th Congressional District, in the House Democratic Caucus if she wins in November.
They should not seat her in the caucus. Her views are totally against anything that any Democrat has. We believe in pluralism, Carville told NewsNations Elizabeth Vargas on Wednesday.
Carville added later that Avila Chevalier, a democratic socialist who was backed by New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani (D) in her race, is not a Democrat.
Read more: https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/5940133-james-carville-dems-avila-chevalier/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBExWmthNWY3cnlVWjR2bjRhbXNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR6q_NM8hS2NVBEFYxHzoXwMWkUajKVRN4jm0-RZzgB5yxCyymQf8O_Yt_bnsQ_aem_7_HySjJ5KvpmONfcym7a-w
When was his expiration date again?
dave99
(578 posts)reACTIONary
(7,434 posts)... she IS a Democrat in name only, and "no true Democrat".
choie
(7,112 posts)Feeling a bit threatened, Carville?
flashman13
(2,639 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,519 posts)flashman13
(2,639 posts)He hit the big time working on Bill Clinton's campaigns and in that administration. He is the person that coined the slogan, "It's the economy stupid". That slogan is probably the only thing he has done that is still relevant today.
Carville is now just a old hack that pontificates on MSNow and his own pod cast. You could say he is a dinosaur that represents what is wrong with the Democratic party. He doesn't realize that the times and the base of the party have passed him by. I don't think he has any business defining who are the real Democrats.
Miguelito Loveless
(6,054 posts)Why I have no use for James Carville.
DBoon
(25,270 posts)Sounds like Carville is a make-believe gatekeeper, trying to decide who is and isn't a "True Democrat"
reACTIONary
(7,434 posts)... what he would recommend. He has no more authority than any other pundit or "strategist.
The Democratic Caucus could hypothetically refuse entry or the full House could, again hypothetically, refuse to seat her.
GJGCA
(324 posts)It was tried with Adam Clayton Powell:
Since the Supreme Courts 1969 decision in Powell v. McCormack, the House can only exclude a member-elect who fails to meet the three qualifications spelled out in the Constitution: minimum age, citizenship duration, and state residency.
Source: https://legalclarity.org/when-can-the-house-refuse-to-seat-a-member-elect/
karynnj
(61,222 posts)I old enough to remember when Clinton, aided by Carville and Begala spoke of being " new' Democrats - remember the DLC
That was a shift. Now, we:re seeing another.
As to not letting someone into the caucus, how stupid! Would he change his mind if it gives us the speakers?
MichMan
(17,629 posts)That doesn't seem at all like anything FDR would have supported
https://cbs12.com/news/nation-world/mamdani-backed-house-candidates-deleted-posts-called-for-abolishing-police-borders-democratic-socialist-nyc-adriano-espaillat-primary-blm-bernie-sanders-aoc-joe-biden
karynnj
(61,222 posts)Also, I think almost everyone who spoke that way has later claimed that they didn't mean what they literally said instead meaning significant reforms.
I personally am and always have been more moderate on that.
walkingman
(11,301 posts)reACTIONary
(7,434 posts)... or an appeal to purity. From the perspective of a legal positivist, you are right.
ananda
(35,816 posts)Sheesh
reACTIONary
(7,434 posts)... a lot of folks (Democrats) would agree.
ananda
(35,816 posts)they'd all be Republicans.
reACTIONary
(7,434 posts).... a poll that zeroed in specifically on ideological self identification found that only 35% of Democrats considered themselves to be "democratic socialists." That might suggest there are a good number of Democrats who would look favorably on Carville's opinions.
Other polling shows that about 55% of self identified Democrats consider themselves to be liberal or very liberal; while 34% identify as moderate; and about 9%, conservative. This suggests that even among those Democrats who are liberal or very liberal, there are many that would not consider themselves "democratic socialists," and may have agreement with Carville.
Stepping away from "democratic" socialism specifically, and looking at socialism as a general, binary preference, polling shows Democrats are more positive towards "socialism" than "capitalism;" 66% to 42%, That, again, would indicate that those who might support Carville's opinions have substantial standing in the Democratic party.
I don't think you should denigrate as "Republicans" the many Democrats who are partial towards Carville's assessments.
bcbink
(142 posts)Well said with plenty of back up.
duckworth969
(1,451 posts)Ritabert
(2,823 posts)ToxMarz
(3,182 posts)But you seem to have no problem.giving her oxygen.
SpankMe
(3,807 posts)It's all about tactics and strategy in this era, not purist ideology. Even if she's not in line with the DNC's main platform, if she's willing to caucus with Dems, we should take her.
rampartd
(5,500 posts)all of those ladies have been effective spokespersons with good constituent services staff. is that what "the establishment" is afraid of?
MichMan
(17,629 posts)These were all safe districts to begin with.
mopinko
(74,244 posts)shes a pretty staunch anti-zionist. thats what his beef is.
i thought israel/gaza was the most important thing on the planet. but lets not talk about that, huh?
Laffy Kat
(17,007 posts)reACTIONary
(7,434 posts).... he doesn't call himself a Democrat. He calls himself an Independent. I don't know much about Chevalier, but if she ran as an independent, would she have any chance at all?
Callie1979
(1,490 posts)She called President Biden a RAPIST
Among a ton of other terrible social media posts
A freaking GIFT to the GOP.
There wasnt anything wrong with the 13th District's CURRENT Rep
Good lord.
luv2fly
(2,768 posts)My memory certainly fails me now and then, but I seem to recall having read something about not bashing Democratic public figures, not peddling right-wing smears... you know... SUPPORTING Democrats.
Maybe it's just me.
3Hotdogs
(15,738 posts)new N.J. rep is a Soc.Dem.
luv2fly
(2,768 posts)But my eyes often fail me too....
Callie1979
(1,490 posts)This is exactly what I'm worried about.
See Post #73 for several links to several bad comments & positions.
luv2fly
(2,768 posts)Ridiculous.
KPN
(17,599 posts)we are going to bash Democratic Party candidates in a general election, shouldn't we provide sources purported to be facts?
3Hotdogs
(15,738 posts)open borders and eliminating most police departments and officers. I believe she will win the November election.
As a November candidate, she won't do much harm to the Dem. November election efforts. But if she continues with extreme points of view on the floor of Congress? Not good.
Callie1979
(1,490 posts)But I didnt use quotes in my original post so I'M the bad guy.
This is how we trip over our own shoes.
Callie1979
(1,490 posts)It's only been in the news for 2 months.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook/2026/05/29/espaillats-challenger-really-doesnt-like-establishment-democrats-00942098
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/darializa-avila-chevalier-is-trying-to-weather-her-own-posts.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/06/24/darializa-avila-chevalier-scrutinized-posts-before-new-york-house-primary-win/
How many legitimate stories do you want?
SocialDemocrat61
(8,379 posts)murielm99
(33,158 posts)There seems to be a lot of that here lately.
MichMan
(17,629 posts)I've seen plenty of posts saying the most vile things about Sen. Fetterman.
creeksneakers2
(8,062 posts)The GOP is going to use her to smear all our candidates.
KPN
(17,599 posts)KPN
(17,599 posts)MichMan
(17,629 posts)In another post two days later, Avila Chevalier rejected an argument that abolishing police meant only ending policing as we know it.
No. It means ending policing full stop. Period. No more police at all ever, she replied, adding several clap emojis between words.
https://cbs12.com/news/nation-world/mamdani-backed-house-candidates-deleted-posts-called-for-abolishing-police-borders-democratic-socialist-nyc-adriano-espaillat-primary-blm-bernie-sanders-aoc-joe-biden
KPN
(17,599 posts)be interested in seeing those texts directly and having a better understanding of their context. For all I know re: world without borders, she could have been talking simply about an ideal or what the "arc of the universe" would look like.
At any rate, I do agree that this info will jade many voters against her and there is risk to electing Democrats in that for sure.
Callie1979
(1,490 posts)Thanks for the info
Buddyzbuddy
(3,044 posts)You have to admit, he's a fighter. Too bad it's against progression. Have a Mint Julip and ssshhh, you old coot.
Scrivener7
(60,376 posts)Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)
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hatrack
(65,368 posts)Do try and keep up.
RandySF
(87,913 posts)Please dont shoot the messenger.
VegasVet
(7,524 posts)https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/23/nyregion/who-is-darializa-avila-chevalier.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
VegasVet
(7,524 posts)awesomerwb1
(5,181 posts)VegasVet
(7,524 posts)awesomerwb1
(5,181 posts)PurgedVoter
(2,726 posts)I read his book, in no way does he support the views in his book.
Akakoji
(625 posts)Eko
(10,184 posts)AllyCat
(19,041 posts)Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)
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luv2fly
(2,768 posts)How special...
🙄
RedArkGuy
(895 posts). . . that reveal her for the Marxist/Islamic fundamentalist she is claimed to be?
AZLD4Candidate
(7,086 posts)MichMan
(17,629 posts)PufPuf23
(10,034 posts)I question his true motives he sucks so bad.
RedArkGuy
(895 posts). . . over these candidates to give me quotations from them that support their claimed fears about these allegedly Marxist/Islamist candidates. I've not received any such quotation yet.
J_William_Ryan
(3,651 posts)Are we to assume that democratic socialists are Democrats the same way libertarians are Republicans.
Or are democratic socialists a political party separate and apart from the Democratic Party.
24601
(4,148 posts)- oppose the death penalty
- would end the current U.S. government policies of foreign intervention including military and economic aid; tariffs; economic sanctions; and regime change.
- support the decriminalization of prostitution. They assert the right of consenting adults to provide sexual services to clients for compensation, and the right of clients to purchase sexual services from consenting sex workers.
- say that the only legitimate use of force is in defense of individual rights
There are many more, some that align with us, and some that do not. Here's their platform: https://lp.org/platform-page/
JBTaurus83
(1,852 posts)And ran under the party name. Who is he to decide what a Democrat is? Im not a fan of many of his positions. Same for John Fetterman, objectively they are still Democrats though, no matter how much I may disagree with their views.
RandySF
(87,913 posts)https://cbs12.com/news/nation-world/mamdani-backed-house-candidates-deleted-posts-called-for-abolishing-police-borders-democratic-socialist-nyc-adriano-espaillat-primary-blm-bernie-sanders-aoc-joe-biden
Javaman
(66,031 posts)GiqueCee
(5,064 posts)... let's calm down now; it's time for your meds and a nap. Yes, yes, we know how you get when people prefer to forget you exist.
Do you remember the concept of integrity, Jimmy? No? Well, Ms Avila Chevalier has it. You apparently don't, so it's best if you be quiet now. You're only hurting yourself.
For the terminally obtuse:
howardmappel
(103 posts)Carville needs to retire his opinions. NOW.