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muriel_volestrangler

(106,974 posts)
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 06:09 PM 22 hrs ago

Trump tries again to delay $5m sexual abuse payout to E Jean Carroll

Source: The Guardian

Lawyers for Donald Trump have requested more time to pay a $5m civil judgment to magazine columnist E Jean Carroll from 2023, days after the US supreme court declined to hear an appeal.

In a new filing, the president’s attorney said that since his former lead counsel, Justin Smith, took up a position as a federal judge last month (a post he was nominated to by Trump), his new lead counsel, Josh Halpern, needed more time “to become completely familiar with the facts and procedural circumstances” of the case.
...
In a response, Carroll’s attorney, Roberta Kaplan, countered that Trump’s request for an extension “appears to be little more than yet another play for time”.

Kaplan said that Smith was nominated to the court of appeals more than five months ago and Trump “has had ample time to retain new counsel” and “should have been acting diligently to do that since at least February”.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/04/trump-delay-5m-payout-e-jean-carroll



If they could harness energy from bullshit, he'd be a perpetual motion machine.
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Trump tries again to delay $5m sexual abuse payout to E Jean Carroll (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler 22 hrs ago OP
Jesus fucking christ... buzzycrumbhunger 22 hrs ago #1
Well, seems like he's overcompensating for SOMETHING! calimary 20 hrs ago #10
The $5 million plus interest is sitting in an escrow account and is probably controlled by the court. The court should OGBuzz 21 hrs ago #2
Yes, a Court made Trump do that months ago. Weird they have not released it. riversedge 21 hrs ago #3
Isn't the money that is with the court Quanto Magnus 20 hrs ago #4
I think you might be thinking of the larger judgement, maybe $93mil? Buddyzbuddy 20 hrs ago #6
You are correct that the money is held in a "registry" controlled by the court. There is a procedure for releasing it onenote 4 hrs ago #19
This silliness will be going on for years... Escape 20 hrs ago #5
you would be wrong about that NJCher 19 hrs ago #13
He can't the SCOTUS of the United States has ruled in that he is guilty Botany 20 hrs ago #7
The SOB wormed his way into $2bil. last year but won't pay what he owes. Buddyzbuddy 20 hrs ago #8
How much you got, Donald? calimary 20 hrs ago #9
Classic Abuse Example: littlemissmartypants 20 hrs ago #11
shithead can not control ANYTHING anymore, he LOST. dave99 20 hrs ago #12
Not a lawyer? Carroll didn't just have to "ask" -- she had to file a motion. onenote 2 hrs ago #30
As part of his appeal Trump entered into an agreement with the court the funds would be disbursed directly to Carroll sop 19 hrs ago #14
That is not what the agreement provided. It set up a procedure for the release of the money - it is not "automatic." onenote 4 hrs ago #21
'Carroll v. Trump Stipulation and Order -- Document #210' sop 3 hrs ago #25
Key procedural provision onenote 3 hrs ago #26
"Attorney Roberta Kaplan cited a prior stipulation that payment would be due if the high court denied review." sop 3 hrs ago #28
What you actually stated: onenote 2 hrs ago #29
I could provide multiple sources to support my statement...NYT, WSJ, WaPo...but they're all behind a paywall. sop 2 hrs ago #32
So does that mean you think Carroll's lawyer doesn't know what she's doing? onenote 1 hr ago #33
I'm sorry, you've lost me. sop 1 hr ago #34
Judge Kaplan tells him to "pay up" and July 7th is the final final deadline FakeNoose 19 hrs ago #15
Wrong. The judge simply said that the deadline for Trump to file an opposition to Carroll's motion is July 7. onenote 18 hrs ago #16
When I defaulted on my student loans, the good people at PHEAA helped themselves to my paycheck Orrex 18 hrs ago #17
He gets a "say" because Carroll agreed to give him one. onenote 4 hrs ago #22
Thank you for that. Orrex 4 hrs ago #24
Deadbeat. Martin68 17 hrs ago #18
Trump tries again to squirm out of paying E. Jean Carroll $5M: attorney LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago #20
Judge slaps down Trump's latest dodge in E. Jean Carroll case LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago #23
Once again, Raw Story gets its facts wrong. The court has not ordered payment to Carroll to be made on July 7 onenote 3 hrs ago #27
He cannot be allowed to build that WH "ballroom" bunker. This is exactly. mahina 2 hrs ago #31

buzzycrumbhunger

(2,479 posts)
1. Jesus fucking christ...
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 06:14 PM
22 hrs ago

He’s already grifted billions more than that since squatting in the WH. Seriously, he’s the biggest fucking baby EVER.

So… was his personality more because he was both spoiled and neglected in his formative years, or because his peen is a complete innie? That MAGAt rage has to account for at least the latter. *eyeroll*

OGBuzz

(934 posts)
2. The $5 million plus interest is sitting in an escrow account and is probably controlled by the court. The court should
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 06:20 PM
21 hrs ago

release the money to E.Jean Carroll immediately. Trump is out of appeals. Oh yeah, and F*ck Trump.

Quanto Magnus

(1,429 posts)
4. Isn't the money that is with the court
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 07:20 PM
20 hrs ago

provided by some insurance company? or some other org that is covering him?

maybe I'm remembering something else, but if this is the case, they may still be trying to get the money from Trumpm before the insurance kicks in?

Buddyzbuddy

(3,089 posts)
6. I think you might be thinking of the larger judgement, maybe $93mil?
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 07:29 PM
20 hrs ago

He had to get a bond to guarantee the settlement in order to appeal it.
I think he put up the cash to cover this appeal.

onenote

(46,393 posts)
19. You are correct that the money is held in a "registry" controlled by the court. There is a procedure for releasing it
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 11:38 AM
4 hrs ago

Under the terms of the 2023 agreement between Trump and Carroll providing for the deposit of $5+ million to the registry, release of the funds to Carroll requires either a motion to the court or a stipulation of the parties. Trump, obviously, is not stipulating to the release of the funds, so Carroll has filed a motion. And under the rules of the court, Trump is entitled to file a response to that motion. Ordinarily, that response would be due in 14 days, but Carroll sought, and over Trump's objection, obtained an order reducing the time for Trump to respond from 14 days to 7 days. So Trump has to respond by July 7 and at that point, the judge can decide whether or not the funds should be released to Carroll or whether there is any reason not to do so at this time.

Escape

(562 posts)
5. This silliness will be going on for years...
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 07:24 PM
20 hrs ago

She will never see a dime of the money. Our legal system is a joke.

NJCher

(43,866 posts)
13. you would be wrong about that
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 08:38 PM
19 hrs ago

the court can direct the funds be paid and they will do that at some point. If you could just play this game ad infinitum, people would do it. Trump is the only one that make an egregious asshole out of himself and who never seems to mind insulting and demeaning the courts and anyone else who has power over him.

How do I know? Practical experience. I have had money awarded to me through the courts. If there isn't money in the account, they seize the account and pay you the money when it is deposited.

Buddyzbuddy

(3,089 posts)
8. The SOB wormed his way into $2bil. last year but won't pay what he owes.
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 07:34 PM
20 hrs ago

Scofflaw, scoundrel, conman, thief. There's your GOD MAGA Republicans.

dave99

(757 posts)
12. shithead can not control ANYTHING anymore, he LOST.
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 07:55 PM
20 hrs ago

Last edited Sun Jul 5, 2026, 02:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Court releases the Funds to the WINNER.
Just needs to be asked and it has been asked properly by her Lawyer.

asked = Filed correct paperwork to court

rich.little tiny dick will have to play in the corner with itself, if it can

onenote

(46,393 posts)
30. Not a lawyer? Carroll didn't just have to "ask" -- she had to file a motion.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 01:26 PM
2 hrs ago

And under the rules of the court, Trump gets an opportunity to respond to that motion and then the court decides. I have no reason to think that the court won't grant the motion, but it has to follow the steps.

sop

(20,006 posts)
14. As part of his appeal Trump entered into an agreement with the court the funds would be disbursed directly to Carroll
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 08:47 PM
19 hrs ago

the moment his petition before the Supreme Court was denied. Will Trump now claim he didn't agree to that?

onenote

(46,393 posts)
21. That is not what the agreement provided. It set up a procedure for the release of the money - it is not "automatic."
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 11:40 AM
4 hrs ago

Under the terms of the 2023 agreement between Trump and Carroll providing for the deposit of $5+ million to the registry, release of the funds to Carroll requires either a motion to the court or a stipulation of the parties. Trump, obviously, is not stipulating to the release of the funds, so Carroll has filed a motion. And under the rules of the court, Trump is entitled to file a response to that motion. Ordinarily, that response would be due in 14 days, but Carroll sought, and over Trump's objection, obtained an order reducing the time for Trump to respond from 14 days to 7 days. So Trump has to respond by July 7 and at that point, the judge can decide whether or not the funds should be released to Carroll or whether there is any reason not to do so at this time.

sop

(20,006 posts)
25. 'Carroll v. Trump Stipulation and Order -- Document #210'
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 01:06 PM
3 hrs ago

Full text of Stipulation and Order:

NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND AGREED, by and between the Plaintiff and Defendant, that:

1. TSO, on behalf of Defendant, shall make a cash deposit into the registry of the Court in the sum of$5,550,000.00, within five (5) business days ofthe entry ofthis Order, pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 67(a);

2. TSO shall also deliver to the Clerk o f this Court a copy o f this Order permitting the deposit, see Fed. R. Civ. P. 67(a);

3. The deposited funds shall serve as "other security" under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 62(b);

4. The deposited funds, and any interest earned thereon, shall, upon receipt, become the property of this Court and shall not be an asset of the Defendant, see 28 U.S.C. §§ 2041 , 2042;

5. Proceedings to enforce the Judgment, or seeking discovery in aid of such enforcement, shall be stayed pending the final disposition of Defendant's Appeal, including any appeal to the United States Supreme Court, see Fed. R. Civ. P. 62(b);

6. During the Appeal, the Clerk of this Court will redeposit the sum received from Defendant in an interest-bearing account, and the interest generated by the deposit will be added to the original deposit and serve as additional security for Plaintiff;

7. The Clerk shall deduct from the income on the investment a fee consistent with that authorized by the Judicial Conference of the United States and set by the Director of the Administrative Office, see Local Civil Rule 67.l(b)(2);

8. After the latest of (a) the mandate issued by the Second Circuit in connection with the Appeal; (b) a denial of a timely filed petition for writ of certiorari to the Supreme Court (if any) in connection with the Appeal; or (c) upon the Supreme Court's granting of certiorari, an order of the Supreme Court in connection pwith the Appeal, Plaintiff may collect any moneys owed by Defendant to Plaintiff under the terms of the Judgment, as may be modified on appeal or court order, from the amount deposited with the Court by Defendant, inclusive of any interest earned on such funds less any fees;

9. Collection by Plaintiff of the funds held by the Court may be accomplished by means of a motion or a stipulation and order, with notice served on the Clerk of this Court. Any funds remaining, inclusive of any interest earned on such funds less any fees, after paying out all moneys owed by Defendant to Plaintiff under the terms of the Judgment, as may be modified on appeal or court order, shall be paid to Defendant;

10. If the Judgment is reversed and set aside completely, then the sums originally deposited with the Court by Defendant, together with any interest earned on such funds less any fees, shall be paid to Defendant. Collection by Defendant of the funds held by the Court may be accomplished by means of a motion or a stipulation and order, with notice served on the Clerk of this Court; and

11. If, following the Appeal, the case is remanded to this Court for further proceedings and/or a supplemental opinion, the deposited funds held by the Court, and any interest earned thereon, will continue to be held by the Court to secure any award to Plaintiff until such award becomes final and unappealable.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/65895581/210/carroll-v-trump/

......

"Following the Supreme Court’s decision not to hear Donald Trump’s appeal, E. Jean Carroll’s legal team moved quickly to request immediate disbursement of the $5 million jury award plus $779,783 in interest. Attorney Roberta Kaplan cited a prior stipulation that payment would be due if the high court denied review and emphasized that Carroll has already waited nearly four years. The funds remain in a court-controlled account, and Carroll’s team has asked for an expedited response deadline of July 7, 2026."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/insight/carroll-pushes-for-5-8m-payout-after-supreme-court-rejects-trump-appeal/gm-GM7973E9C7?gemSnapshotKey=GM7973E9C7-snapshot-2&uxmode=ruby

onenote

(46,393 posts)
26. Key procedural provision
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 01:09 PM
3 hrs ago

9.Collection by Plaintiff of the funds held by the Court may be accomplished by means of a motion or a stipulation and order, with notice served on the Clerk of this Court. Any funds remaining, inclusive of any interest earned on such funds less any fees, after paying out all moneys owed by Defendant to Plaintiff under the terms of the Judgment, as may be modified on appeal or court order, shall be paid to Defendant;

Carroll requested and was denied a stipulation by Trump. So she filed a motion. And by court rule, Trump has an opportunity to respond to that motion.

sop

(20,006 posts)
28. "Attorney Roberta Kaplan cited a prior stipulation that payment would be due if the high court denied review."
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 01:15 PM
3 hrs ago

That's what I stated in post #14. You added "automatic."

onenote

(46,393 posts)
29. What you actually stated:
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 01:24 PM
2 hrs ago

"As part of his appeal Trump entered into an agreement with the court the funds would be disbursed directly to Carroll the moment his petition before the Supreme Court was denied."

We can quibble over "disbursed directly to Carroll the moment his petition before the Supreme Court was denied" is somehow different than "automatic" -- but the fact is that Carroll and Trump stipulated to a procedure under which the disbursement was contingent on Trump either stipulating to the conditions for disbursement having been met or, failing that, the court granting a motion by Carroll seeking such disbursement.

sop

(20,006 posts)
32. I could provide multiple sources to support my statement...NYT, WSJ, WaPo...but they're all behind a paywall.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 01:53 PM
2 hrs ago

As a final response to your "quibbling," I'll just quote what Joyce Vance wrote about what would be "immediately" triggered (or the moment it happened, not automatically) when the Supreme Court declined to hear Trump's appeal:

"When Donald Trump appealed the $5 million dollars the jury awarded to E. Jean Carroll in the first of her two defamation victories against him, he put that money, plus extra to cover interest, into escrow. The money would go to her immediately if the appeal terminated in her favor. Trump stipulated that would be the case if, once he asked the Supreme Court to hear his appeal on a writ of certiorari, they declined to do so, which would finalize the decision in Carroll’s favor. That’s exactly what happened on Monday. That means it’s time for Donald Trump to pay up."

"So of course, he did, right? He’d made an agreement and he honored it."

"Alas—and as you all undoubtedly anticipated—that did not happen. Donald Trump, in fact, did not honor his agreement. He was not, yet again, a gracious loser. He has not paid up. He owes Carroll $5,779,783.00, the amount of the judgment plus post-judgment interest. Instead, he wants to delay making the payment. It’s so on brand. But it’s not going to work this time."

"We know all of this because Carroll’s lawyer, the incomparable Robbie Kaplan, had to explain it all to a judge."

Continued at link:

https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-women-who-told-trump-no

onenote

(46,393 posts)
33. So does that mean you think Carroll's lawyer doesn't know what she's doing?
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 02:24 PM
1 hr ago

Trump didn't agree to immediately honor the court's decision. He made an agreement to either stipulate to it or force Carroll to seek disbursement by a motion -- an agreement to which Carroll was a party.

She knows exactly what the agreement was, why it was entered into the way it was, and how it was to be enforced. She could have demanded that the court give up the funds without any further action by any party. She didn't. The funds are the property of the court. Under the agreement, the court could disburse them EITHER if Trump and Carroll sent the court a new stipulation agreeing to the disbursement or, if there was no new stipulation by both parties, then Carroll could go to the court with a motion.

But I guess all those articles know something she doesn't and she's fucking up?

onenote

(46,393 posts)
16. Wrong. The judge simply said that the deadline for Trump to file an opposition to Carroll's motion is July 7.
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 09:44 PM
18 hrs ago

On June 30, Carroll filed a motion asking the court to order the disbursement of the funds owed Carroll. Under the ordinary rules, Trump would have 14 days to respond. However, Carroll simultaneously filed a motion to expedite the deadline for Trump to respond, giving him only until July 7. The judge granted that request to expedite, and Trump made a new request to reinstate the original 14 day deadline, and the judge denied that request. So the judge has not ordered the disbursement of funds on July 7 -- he has ordered Trump to file any opposition to Carroll's motion for disbursement by July 7.

Orrex

(67,583 posts)
17. When I defaulted on my student loans, the good people at PHEAA helped themselves to my paycheck
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 10:05 PM
18 hrs ago

Never mind the fact that we were below the poverty level, and I was the sole income earner for a family of four.

PHEAAA reached in and grabbed the maximum amount that they were permitted to take.

So why the fuck does Rapist47 get any say in how and when this money is paid out? The courts should seize his bank accounts, take out what he owes, and give him the remainder (less an interest rate of, say, 150% compounded daily retroactive to the initial ruling).

How is it that even when he loses, the system works so hard to let him win?

onenote

(46,393 posts)
22. He gets a "say" because Carroll agreed to give him one.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 11:40 AM
4 hrs ago

Under the terms of the 2023 agreement between Trump and Carroll providing for the deposit of $5+ million to the registry, release of the funds to Carroll requires either a motion to the court or a stipulation of the parties. Trump, obviously, is not stipulating to the release of the funds, so Carroll has filed a motion. And under the rules of the court, Trump is entitled to file a response to that motion. Ordinarily, that response would be due in 14 days, but Carroll sought, and over Trump's objection, obtained an order reducing the time for Trump to respond from 14 days to 7 days. So Trump has to respond by July 7 and at that point, the judge can decide whether or not the funds should be released to Carroll or whether there is any reason not to do so at this time.

LetMyPeopleVote

(184,433 posts)
20. Trump tries again to squirm out of paying E. Jean Carroll $5M: attorney
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 11:39 AM
4 hrs ago

trump really does not want to pay Carroll what he owes her

President Donald Trump's latest attempt to dodge the .8 million payment a New York court ruled he owes E. Jean Carroll was swiftly slapped down Friday as "yet another play for time," court records show.

Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2026-07-04T13:00:15Z

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-e-jean-carroll-2677157796/

President Donald Trump's latest attempt to dodge the $5.8 million payment a New York court ruled he owes E. Jean Carroll was swiftly
slapped down Friday as "yet another play for time," court records show.

Roberta Kaplan, the attorney who represented Carroll in her sex abuse case against Trump before his return to office, filed a swift rebuttal to Trump's demand for an extension, New York federal court records show.

"Defendant’s assertion that he cannot respond to Plaintiff’s Motion on the timeline ordered by the Court appears to be little more than yet another play for time," wrote Kaplan.

"We can only assume that Defendant is seeking, through the instant motion, to buy time so he can try to concoct some new basis to put off paying Plaintiff."

Carroll's attorney was responding to the motion Trump filed the same day requesting Judge Lewis Kaplan grant him more time so his new attorney could get caught up on the case.

LetMyPeopleVote

(184,433 posts)
23. Judge slaps down Trump's latest dodge in E. Jean Carroll case
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 12:07 PM
4 hrs ago

trump really does NOT want to pay Carroll. trump's feelings were hurt by this verdict and really does not want to pay Carroll. The latest excuses are so lame that the judge sort of laughed at them

A judge has slapped down President Donald Trump's latest attempt to dodge the .8 million payment a New York court ruled is owed to writer E. Jean Carroll, court records show.

Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2026-07-05T11:30:10.628Z

https://www.rawstory.com/e-jean-carroll-trump-2677159331/

A judge has slapped down President Donald Trump's latest attempt to dodge the $5.8 million payment a New York court ruled is owed to writer E. Jean Carroll, court records show.

New York federal court judge Lewis Kaplan on Saturday denied Trump's motion to stall in Carroll's sex abuse case and ordered the cash to be paid on Tuesday, according to court records and Lawfare senior editor Roger Parloff.

Trump argued on Friday that he needed more time so his new attorney could get caught up on the case. But Carroll's attorney Robbie Kaplan called the excuse just that; an excuse.

"Defendant’s assertion that he cannot respond to Plaintiff’s Motion on the timeline ordered by the Court appears to be little more than yet another play for time," wrote Robbie Kaplan.

"We can only assume that Defendant is seeking, through the instant motion, to buy time so he can try to concoct some new basis to put off paying Plaintiff."

Parloff, who shared the filings online Saturday, identified Trump's new attorney as Josh Halpern and argued Trump's motion contained a fatal flaw.

"Trump’s known for 5 [months] that his lede [attorney] was leaving," wrote Parloff on X. "[He] has co-counsel who’s been on case since day one."

onenote

(46,393 posts)
27. Once again, Raw Story gets its facts wrong. The court has not ordered payment to Carroll to be made on July 7
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 01:09 PM
3 hrs ago

And notwithstanding what Raw Story claims, neither the court records nor Roger Perloff make such a claim. What the court records, and Parloff, have stated is that the court rejected a request from Trump to delay the deadline for Trump's response to Carroll's motion seeking the disbursement of the funds currently held by the court pursuant to the agreement reached between Trump and Carroll in 2023.

The court hasn't yet decided whether to release the funds. I expect it will do so, but it has to receive and consider Trump's response first. As explained elsewhere in this thread, under the terms of the 2023 agreement between Trump and Carroll providing for the deposit of $5+ million to the registry, release of the funds to Carroll requires either a motion to the court or a stipulation of the parties. Trump, obviously, is not stipulating to the release of the funds, so Carroll has filed a motion. And under the rules of the court, Trump is entitled to file a response to that motion. Ordinarily, that response would be due in 14 days, but Carroll sought, and over Trump's objection, obtained an order reducing the time for Trump to respond from 14 days to 7 days. So Trump has to respond by July 7 and at that point, the judge can decide whether or not the funds should be released to Carroll or whether there is any reason not to do so at this time.

mahina

(20,871 posts)
31. He cannot be allowed to build that WH "ballroom" bunker. This is exactly.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 01:28 PM
2 hrs ago

What he plans to do with us.

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