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Judi Lynn

(164,124 posts)
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 06:12 PM Jan 2013

Castro brothers predict Texas will turn to “blue” state soon

Source: Houston Chronicle

Castro brothers predict Texas will turn to “blue” state soon
Sunday, January 20, 2013

San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro and his brother, Rep. Joaquin Castro, see a lot of blue sky in Texas’ future.
Very blue.

The twin brothers predicted to a national TV audience Sunday that Republicans will lose their iron grip on Texas _ that within two presidential election cycles, the currently “red” state will shift from a GOP stronghold to being dominated by Democrats.

On CBS’ “Face the Nation,” the prominent Texas Democrats also said that President Barack Obama and Congress should tackle the economy, education, immigration reform and gun laws this year.

“It’s changing. It’s going to become a “purple state” then a “blue state” because of the demographics, because of the population from folks coming from outside Texas,” Julian Castro said.


Read more: http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2013/01/castro-brothers-predict-texas-will-turn-to-blue-state-soon/#7376-6

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Castro brothers predict Texas will turn to “blue” state soon (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2013 OP
Hopefully in my lifetime! narnian60 Jan 2013 #1
It needs investments. illegaloperation Jan 2013 #61
If they're right RedstDem Jan 2013 #2
Yes, that will be a Texas-sized challenge! n/t JimDandy Jan 2013 #4
I'll stop telling people THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE is a documentary. yurbud Jan 2013 #13
+1000 okaawhatever Jan 2013 #30
I didn't even feel that way until I saw a FRONTLINE episode interviewing Texas judges about DNA yurbud Jan 2013 #48
Yay! I love the twins and their story. They're the future of Texas freshwest Jan 2013 #3
I think you're right, something special going on with those brothers. Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #24
I sincerely hope so! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2013 #5
Didn't Obama win all of the metropolitan areas? DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #6
Almost. illegaloperation Jan 2013 #60
It will happen, but I'd say 2028 at the earliest for it to be SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #7
a couple of years ago, Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #25
The Castros are the perfect foils to prevent George P. Bush and Marco Rubio Rozlee Jan 2013 #8
and in 2020, led by both of them gerrymander it back graham4anything Jan 2013 #9
Absolutely. The electoral college is just fine the way it is. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #28
Do you not understand how fucked up that logic is? harmonicon Jan 2013 #34
I lived in the Houston area for almost 15 years. Loki Jan 2013 #10
kick samsingh Jan 2013 #11
I remember reading a book called 'The Right Nation' around 2004 and ballaratocker Jan 2013 #12
they might be in power Skittles Jan 2013 #19
Does it matter? cstanleytech Jan 2013 #14
There has definitely been an upswing of progressive ideals in the past decade Ash_F Jan 2013 #50
Well I will believe it when or I should say if it happens as I have alot of doubts cstanleytech Jan 2013 #51
Well... ReRe Jan 2013 #15
Please please please please please please.... Initech Jan 2013 #16
In time, yes I believe it will come to pass. Kennah Jan 2013 #17
I can see tbe state turning Blue, we have a large latino population growing everyday Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #18
If Perry was a democrat then he must have had the Big Gulp of tparty kool aid nt okaawhatever Jan 2013 #31
He switched parties some years back when Texas was going red Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #39
Eight years? Not soon enough derby378 Jan 2013 #20
Julian for Governor Lobo27 Jan 2013 #21
I suspect first we will see demographics put Texas in the Virginia/North Carolina -swing state Douglas Carpenter Jan 2013 #22
That would be so awesome! ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #23
Hillary could do it as early as 2016 Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2013 #26
Meanwhile we elect a governor to a 3rd term who almost flunked out of animal husbandry Major Nikon Jan 2013 #27
I hope I'm around when it happens! TXDemoGal Jan 2013 #29
Nice Dreams bucolic_frolic Jan 2013 #32
Please; soon.... GTurck Jan 2013 #33
The Hispanic population in that state needs to vote in force Arkana Jan 2013 #35
But first it has to be returned The Wizard Jan 2013 #36
I could see it. bamacrat Jan 2013 #37
the sooner the better! nt antigop Jan 2013 #38
And San Francisco will become a Republican stronghold. SpankMe Jan 2013 #40
When Marco Rubio and his ilk push their immigration "reform" peace frog Jan 2013 #42
Never is a long time. kentauros Jan 2013 #53
Goody! lonestarnot Jan 2013 #41
Here, here... absyntheminded Jan 2013 #43
music to my ears lovuian Jan 2013 #44
Hopefully sooner than we think! SunSeeker Jan 2013 #45
I'd like to think so, but DFW Jan 2013 #46
I think he would have won Utah, too KamaAina Jan 2013 #57
You forgot Idaho Ter Jan 2013 #59
I don't see how... Doctor_J Jan 2013 #47
Fastest way for TX to become blue would be to merge with CA golfguru Jan 2013 #49
Don't Worry, DU Texas Haters. Paladin Jan 2013 #52
Maybe their governors and Senators will turn blue. denverbill Jan 2013 #54
And let's face guys tartan2 Jan 2013 #55
If the Democratic Party would view Texas and other red states as potentially in play, instead of Katorama Jan 2013 #56
Agreed, we need a 50 state strategy N/T Chathamization Jan 2013 #62
Texas may not be turning blue...as fast as the DEM Party is turning red. blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #58

illegaloperation

(260 posts)
61. It needs investments.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:25 PM
Jan 2013

Democrats will have to invest time, effort, and money to turn Texas blue.

And that means NOT to underestimate the time and money it takes. Texas may not go blue until 2024 (by a more conservative estimate) or 2020 (by more moderate estimate) and it will be a very expensive project.

Of cause the payoff is worth the cost; just don't lose hope.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
48. I didn't even feel that way until I saw a FRONTLINE episode interviewing Texas judges about DNA
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 07:48 PM
Jan 2013

proving prisoners were falsely convicted.

they seemed more narrow-minded, dim-witted, and cruel than the average lynch mob member.

after I saw it,I was afraid to even visit Texas and I'm WHITE.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
6. Didn't Obama win all of the metropolitan areas?
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jan 2013

Once the elderly, fundie rural crazies die off, Texas will be indigo.

SWTORFanatic

(385 posts)
7. It will happen, but I'd say 2028 at the earliest for it to be
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jan 2013

a swing state or "leans blue"

I am worried that fundies will infect the north though, to get away from those "gosh darn mexicans"

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
25. a couple of years ago,
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 10:33 PM
Jan 2013

would you have expected gay marriage to become almost
mainstream, or pot to be getting almost legal? I would have
said, maybe in a generation those things could come to pass.
But not this fast.. and yet..

The good stuff seems to be accelerating.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
8. The Castros are the perfect foils to prevent George P. Bush and Marco Rubio
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jan 2013

from gaining footholds in Texas. We Hispanics voted strongly against Ted Cruz, but unfortunately, our low voter turnout and redistricting have kept Republicans in power. Hispanic youth, though, seems more galvanized. I don't know if the Castro twins are being overly optimistic about Texas turning blue in two more presidential election cycles. But, I sincerely believe it will turn a tipping point purple by then. What's more likely is that by that time, Arizona will be bright blue. Even in Florida, Obama came within 3 points of winning the Cuban-American vote, thanks mostly in part to their youth vote and Florida attempts to keep minorities from the polls. If Rethugs lose Texas, it may be the K-T event that makes them go the way of the dinosaurs.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
9. and in 2020, led by both of them gerrymander it back
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jan 2013

(that is why I am not in a rush to ban gerrymandering at this point.
We need to get it back like it was in LBJ's day.

the irony is how the new demographics will win back what racism took away througout the south.

there won't be a major state red in just a few years.
(another reason not to change the electoral vote system.)

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
34. Do you not understand how fucked up that logic is?
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 09:31 AM
Jan 2013

Gerrymandering is the ONLY reason that Republicans have control over the house. You want to keep it because.... "fuck you, that's why!" I don't get it. The non-partisan drawing of district maps should be at the absolute top of the Democratic Party platform.

Loki

(3,830 posts)
10. I lived in the Houston area for almost 15 years.
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 07:14 PM
Jan 2013
Nothing would make me happier than to see Texas turn Blue and Tom Delay in jail. Yeehaw.

ballaratocker

(126 posts)
12. I remember reading a book called 'The Right Nation' around 2004 and
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jan 2013

it told the tale of a Texas state Republican assemblyman who predicted back in the '50's that the GOP would be the party of the future. People laughed at him then.

Skittles

(171,716 posts)
19. they might be in power
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 08:47 PM
Jan 2013

but the Greedy Old Pig party will ALWAYS be the party of the past

cstanleytech

(28,473 posts)
14. Does it matter?
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jan 2013

I mean if you look at the history of the south the party in charge might change names but in the end its often it seems like its the same circle of people in charge.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
50. There has definitely been an upswing of progressive ideals in the past decade
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:27 AM
Jan 2013

It's more than just labels. As an anecdote, a couple worker's rights groups are getting established here in Dallas this year. There were none previously. Down in San Antonio, mayor Castro is one of the more progressive Texas mayors we have seen.

cstanleytech

(28,473 posts)
51. Well I will believe it when or I should say if it happens as I have alot of doubts
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:34 AM
Jan 2013

that the state will swing from conservative to progressive regardless of party label.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
15. Well...
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 07:44 PM
Jan 2013

I and former Texas House member Henry Gonzalez (rest his sweet sweet patriotic soul), hope the Castro Brothers are correct. Only thing, is I think it will be sooner! Go Texas Democrats!!!

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
17. In time, yes I believe it will come to pass.
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 08:21 PM
Jan 2013

There are some purple states that will turn blue before Texas goes purple.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
18. I can see tbe state turning Blue, we have a large latino population growing everyday
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 08:23 PM
Jan 2013

Rick Perry was a Democrat at one time and Texas has been a proud Blue state in the recent past.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
39. He switched parties some years back when Texas was going red
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 12:28 PM
Jan 2013

I think he actually got a huge cup of OOPS

derby378

(30,262 posts)
20. Eight years? Not soon enough
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jan 2013

The environmental damage being inflicted on Texas by the GOP is in progress. God only knows how long it's going to take to clean up this mess.

Lobo27

(753 posts)
21. Julian for Governor
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 08:56 PM
Jan 2013

at least that is what the GOP thinks, and they have already begun the attacks on the mayor.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
22. I suspect first we will see demographics put Texas in the Virginia/North Carolina -swing state
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 09:27 PM
Jan 2013

category..then if things stay on course and the Republican Party continues to stay with their role as the voice of "the hard done by white man" - demographics will likely turn Texas into a blue state over the next eight to sixteen years .

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
26. Hillary could do it as early as 2016
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 10:34 PM
Jan 2013

especially if the GOP passes up Christie for a man-child schmuck like Rubio

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
27. Meanwhile we elect a governor to a 3rd term who almost flunked out of animal husbandry
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:33 AM
Jan 2013

At an agricultural university no less.

bucolic_frolic

(55,141 posts)
32. Nice Dreams
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 08:32 AM
Jan 2013

If they have figured out how to get inside the Billy Bob mind,
they should patent it. Royalties would pay off the national debt.

GTurck

(826 posts)
33. Please; soon....
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 09:07 AM
Jan 2013

We moved to Texas to be close to our grandchildren but brought our liberal and progressive thinking and mores with us. It has been hard but turning purple would be a massive stride away from the dominance of a passe oligarchy. It would make the work we have done here worth the effort. Thanks to Texas Democrats for being there.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
35. The Hispanic population in that state needs to vote in force
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:02 AM
Jan 2013

in order for it to happen. African-Americans, women, and Hispanics need to vote in droves. If we can turn Texas blue, the GOP has no electoral future.

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
37. I could see it.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:11 AM
Jan 2013

The Hispanic population there is way larger than the statistics show. If real immigration reform were enacted given them a path to citizenship then I think TX would become as reliable for the Dems as CA. But what I just said is the reason that everyone on the right will fight to the death any legislation that helps Mexicans attain citizenship... If they get their way I could still see it flip in 20-30 years once Hispanic people are the majority in the U.S. That will be a scary time. Not because Hispanics will be the majority but that white people will be the minority. I think this is a huge reason we have become more gun crazy over the last 10 years or so. All the people who are afraid of not being the majority ruling class anymore will also be armed...

SpankMe

(3,720 posts)
40. And San Francisco will become a Republican stronghold.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jan 2013

Texas, blue? Never gonna happen. When the Republican party starts swinging more moderate (and it WILL happen), I think Hispanics will start voting R.

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
42. When Marco Rubio and his ilk push their immigration "reform"
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:39 PM
Jan 2013

that does not include a path to citizenship, they will sound the death knell for hispanic groups voting Republican. Not gonna happen.

absyntheminded

(227 posts)
43. Here, here...
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:48 PM
Jan 2013

In my lifetime? Perhaps not, but things are changing down here and hope is on the horizon for my children, and future grandchildren.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
46. I'd like to think so, but
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jan 2013

Nut case Ted Cruz cruised right (no pun intended) into the US Senate for 6 years, and Governor Oops would have won our state handily (even while losing all others except Oklahoma, Idaho and Kansas) had he been the Republican nominee for president.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
47. I don't see how...
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jan 2013

Texas is already heavily integrated and still bright red. Cruz and Willard both got 57% in November.

I like the boys and their attitude, but reality needs to be faced too.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
49. Fastest way for TX to become blue would be to merge with CA
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:01 AM
Jan 2013

CA is in bad financial situation. They should make TX an offer to sell themselves to TX, the only price would be to bail out CA.

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
52. Don't Worry, DU Texas Haters.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:24 AM
Jan 2013

Texas will remain conservative for a good while, so feel free to keep vilifying the entire state---3.3 million Obama voters included. After all, just living here makes Texas Democrats guilty, right? See? You've been at it so long, you're even starting to convince me, a fifth-generation Texan and life-long Democrat.....


(Sarcasm alert, because even smug Blue Staters need one every once in a while.)

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
54. Maybe their governors and Senators will turn blue.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:04 PM
Jan 2013

The districts will be gerrymandered Republican for another 20 years.

tartan2

(314 posts)
55. And let's face guys
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:04 PM
Jan 2013

the white male vote in on the down swing!!! And as far a I'm concerned it can't happen soon enough!

 

Katorama

(48 posts)
56. If the Democratic Party would view Texas and other red states as potentially in play, instead of
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:06 PM
Jan 2013

writing them off to focus on swing states, this might actually happen.

As it is, money and human resources get put into swing states, a strategy that works, but ignores organizations in states that are considered too red to bother with.

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