VA Senate Committee Kills Vote Rigging Plan
Source: Crooks and Liars
ProgressVirginia reported Tuesday afternoon that the Virginia Senates Privileges and Elections Committee killed Sen. Charles Bill Carrico Sr.s electoral college-rigging bill, despite an offer by Carrico to amend the bill to award electors in proportion to the states popular vote. The vote was 11-4 against the bill, although it will not be official until the close of the committee meeting.
Read more: http://crooksandliars.com/breaking-news/va-senate-committee-kills-vote-rig-1
Good news.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)people are paying attention?
Michigan thought their union-killing governor had changed his mind about things until the Michigan legislation rammed things through in December.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Absolutely yes!
They only killed it because of all the negative publicity. If they think they can ram it through when no one's looking, you'd better believe they'll do it without any scruples whatsoever.
FarPoint
(12,447 posts)SOS of Ohio, Jon Husted even came out with a statement to such where Ohio will not pursue the issue. In November, post election, well, Husted was hot, hot hot for this change.
I smell a diversionary tactic of mammoth proportions.
Husted thread....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014384200
VWolf
(3,944 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Virginia and Ohio shot down.
The others will do the same
because the secret little fact is-this was a red herring to start, and second,
this would come back to haunt them bigtime instead of help them.
Especially if Chris Christie is on the ticket as VP in 2016.
as said, when there was one thread after another in fear of this last week,
I told ya so.
(kudos always to Nikki Finke(c) for and for her phrase).
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)brooklynite
(94,745 posts)...the gerrymandering plan you're thinking about was for State Legislature seats.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)bloomington-lib
(946 posts)groundloop
(11,523 posts)They've got the legislative votes, the governor, and most of all the crazy to pass something like this. They've done it before with the emergency manager law, and they've done it with that bs maneuver of throwing out petitions to rescind the emergency manager law.
John2
(2,730 posts)for you. Say they go through with this plan and the Democratic nominee for President win the popular vote by one million and still loses the State. Can you name one time in the History of the country this have happen. If it does, it will set a precedent. So why can't this be extended by a political Party and select the Governor and both Senators this way? Why can't they also win the most districts and lose the popular votes of the state? You can take the power of the votes counting for the majority of the people in your own state. The minority will have more power than the majority based on real estate or property and not on people. They will have no representation and it does violate the Constitution. You may think it is legal now but the same argument can be made about this like the gun nuts make about the second amendment about taking away your rights.
groundloop
(11,523 posts)But what I'm getting at is that Michigan has enough crazy right wingers in office that I wouldn't put it past them to pass a plan similar to what Virginia was talking about. The right wingers controlling Michigan right now don't seem to care about public perception, they just seem interested in grabbing as much power as possible.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)Way too damn close.
Cha
(297,723 posts)Cha
(297,723 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)"Carricos proposal is part of a troubling national trend by Republican legislators in GOP-controlled states won by President Obama in the 2008 and 2012 elections. The Pennsylvania Senate Majority Leader and Ohio Secretary of State have suggested similar schemes in those states. While constitutional, the scheme would make it far more likely that the popular choice for president would not be elected to that office. No such efforts have emerged in GOP-controlled states won by the Republican nominees.
Indeed, if this plan to rig the Electoral College had been law in several key Republican-controlled states that President Obama won last month, America would now be looking at a very different future. Had the Carrico plan been instituted for the 2012 elections in Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Virginia, and Wisconsin, it is quite likely Mitt Romney would be the president-elect despite President Obamas 51-47 majority."
(from Crooks and Liars)
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)shows how vigilant we must be.
These are people with no scruples. "Ends justify the means"--and in this case the goal is 2016.
It is a sad commentary on our culture that such people can gain so much political power that they openly rig elections.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)All gerrymandered states could be overturned in one federal court case if the case is made that gerrymandered states could swing how the electoral college votes!
Then, the Congressional districts nationwide would have to revert and the House would go Dem!