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UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:46 PM Feb 2013

US 89 Collapses South of Page, Arizona

Source: The Inquisitr



Phoenix, Arizona – US 89 collapsed south of Page, Arizona on Wednesday leaving the road in a condition often seen in post-apocalyptic survival games and movies.

The collapse occurred approximately two and a half miles north of mile 526, north of the intersection with U.S. 89A, approximately 25 miles south of Page.

At this point in time, it is being ruled by the Arizona Department of Transportation that what caused the road to collapse may have been an undetermined ‘geological event,’ according to KPHO.

Although the Arizona Department of Public Safety reported several vehicular collisions due to the event, no injuries were reported at this time.

Read more: http://www.inquisitr.com/534066/us-89-collapses-south-of-page-arizona/

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US 89 Collapses South of Page, Arizona (Original Post) UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 OP
"undetermined ‘geological event'" = An Obama Conspiracy with the Reptoids under Mt. Shasta! Ian David Feb 2013 #1
Lemurians to you XemaSab Feb 2013 #6
No worries! Arizona's a red state and Republicans don't believe in "wasting" money on infrastructure villager Feb 2013 #2
If you see better pics... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #22
replacing it will be "infrastructure" villager Feb 2013 #25
Ah, got ya. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #30
right, no infrastructure for you, Gov. Brewer! wordpix Feb 2013 #24
Here's a slightly better picture Warpy Feb 2013 #3
geesh, I would not want to fall into that hole, wowser! wordpix Feb 2013 #23
I wonder if Potato Head McCain will ask for money ............ Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #4
I was hoping the story would say that he fell in.... beerandjesus Feb 2013 #37
Has there been any fracking in the neighborhood? littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #5
Nope. ChazInAz Feb 2013 #9
considerable areas have subsided. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #16
I wonder if any drainage or sewer lines are under there davidpdx Feb 2013 #35
Maybe a few small culvert for drainage - but no other human made strucures dbackjon Feb 2013 #42
Looks like a bootstrap got pulled up too tightly. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #7
There's aerial video from AZDOT. Blue State Bandit Feb 2013 #8
Beautiful mountains ChazII Feb 2013 #41
Looks like earthquake damage like Japan LittleGirl Feb 2013 #10
This is different. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #18
didn't realize it was still moving! LittleGirl Feb 2013 #32
That's the "Monkeywrench Gang's" A/O DemoTex Feb 2013 #11
+1 <G> n/t jtuck004 Feb 2013 #47
That's pretty intense 2naSalit Feb 2013 #12
Driven that road many times. Marvel of road building dbackjon Feb 2013 #14
Oh I had many 2naSalit Feb 2013 #19
It will take awhile to get it back in order. They really need a new roadway completely dbackjon Feb 2013 #28
Fracking in North Dakota was the cause...pass it on! Sancho Feb 2013 #13
That made me laugh!! nt. SkyDaddy7 Feb 2013 #20
A little history on that section of road dbackjon Feb 2013 #15
It looks like the fill moved, but not the unaltered geology. Humans caused this Coyotl Feb 2013 #38
I can't look at either the video or the twitter image kentauros Feb 2013 #43
So Gov. Brewer, Do You Have A 2nd Amendment Remedy Ready DallasNE Feb 2013 #17
Yeah 2naSalit Feb 2013 #21
Wow a geological event that only occurs on the painted lines on a highway. No faulty construction Monk06 Feb 2013 #26
It looks like California's Highway One. hunter Feb 2013 #27
we're building a tunnel for that part CreekDog Feb 2013 #36
Road response to McCain Ben-gayzee questions kairos12 Feb 2013 #29
So Richter was having a nap? Nationally? WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #31
I've worked at Wauweap Marina several summers when Del Webb ran it and it looked sort of post.... marble falls Feb 2013 #33
This is the "illegal fault" Politicalboi Feb 2013 #34
McCain and Flake have already blamed Obama. Coyotl Feb 2013 #39
You knew it was only a matter of time that the GOP would blame Obama... RussBLib Feb 2013 #40
Man. If only we had a bunch of unemployed people we could put to work fixing those roads (nt) Recursion Feb 2013 #44
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #45
"Leaving the road in a condition often seen in post-Reagan years" IDemo Feb 2013 #46
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
2. No worries! Arizona's a red state and Republicans don't believe in "wasting" money on infrastructure
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:49 PM
Feb 2013

So that's OK, the road can stay that way.

Unless the Feds interfere, if it's a US highway.

Well, wait -- they're being sequestered.

So -- seek alternate routes, citizens! (And we don't mean via any of that commie mass transit/rail stuff, either!)

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
22. If you see better pics...
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:09 PM
Feb 2013

like are linked below, this wasn't infrastructure- it was a pretty big geological fault.

Warpy

(114,569 posts)
3. Here's a slightly better picture
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:52 PM
Feb 2013
http://twitter.com/ArizonaDOT/status/304244759097143296/photo/1

It looks like the whole hill is giving way and sliding down into the valley. Once the process is complete (and it could take weeks or months), that road will have to be rebuilt and possibly rerouted.

ETA: it's always a mistake to assume land out west is solid. Most of it isn't.

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
37. I was hoping the story would say that he fell in....
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:43 AM
Feb 2013

....but realistically, he wasn't even in Arizona, he was in the green room of yet another talk show.

ChazInAz

(3,016 posts)
9. Nope.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:05 PM
Feb 2013

But we've been pumping groundwater out at such a relentless pace for decades that considerable areas have subsided.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,156 posts)
16. considerable areas have subsided.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:52 PM
Feb 2013

We seldom hear about that, and it is important to know.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
35. I wonder if any drainage or sewer lines are under there
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 03:51 AM
Feb 2013

Remember the place in the east last year where there was a railroad tunnel underneath the highway and it caused a giant sinkhole? The damn thing kept getting bigger and bigger. I've never heard if they had any luck fixing that.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
42. Maybe a few small culvert for drainage - but no other human made strucures
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:09 AM
Feb 2013

It is the side of a cliff.

ChazII

(6,448 posts)
41. Beautiful mountains
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:50 AM
Feb 2013

Thanks for sharing as this does give a better view of the situation. (no pun intended)

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
10. Looks like earthquake damage like Japan
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:11 PM
Feb 2013

and they had their road fixed in 3 (yes) days. DAYS! I'll never forget that when the news reported the fix was 3 days.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
18. This is different.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:01 PM
Feb 2013

This is an ongoing process, not a quick subsidence due to an earthquake. It's still moving.

2naSalit

(102,333 posts)
12. That's pretty intense
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:16 PM
Feb 2013

I remember that hill. At the top all you can see is this big crack on a large wall of redrock and a little sign that says "HILL" and nothing else. Once you enter the crack, that is about 100 feet long, and come out the other side you are looking at a five+ miles long grade that hugs the rock wall of a mountain on the left side of the road and a long ways down on the other side. For semis, there are signs assuring you that there isa runaway ramp somewhere down the road... as it turns out, that runaway ramp is near the bottom and ends in a gavel pile to the right of the STOP sign where that road Ts with 89A (which is the rim road that goes to part of Grand Canyon NP... north rim think if you turn right at the stop sign at the bottom). If anyone ever needed that ramp, it was placed far too late for anyone to have made it to the ramp. Stupidest one I've ever seen.

I always had uneasy feelings about the stability of the road bed there.

Thanks for the post! Very interesting, I hope nobody was seriously hurt, glad I missed it.

2naSalit

(102,333 posts)
19. Oh I had many
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:06 PM
Feb 2013

feelings about that road. I always figured that if my brakes failed while traveling down hill at 80,000lbs I might start hugging/scraping the rock wall on the opposite side of the road since I knew I'd never clear all those curves and especially the big turn to the right about a mile up from the stop sign and the runaway ramp (though I had engine brakes on most of the rigs I drove back then, you still need your service brakes to stop). It's about a 7% grade with little to no warning at the top. I stopped and took a bunch of pictures at the top the second time I went that way. Glad I was trained well and started down in a really low gear and even more so as soon as I could see what was ahead.

It's beautiful country, I just wasn't thrilled about the grade and the way it was engineered and the signage was poor. Might be different these days but back in the day, twenty some years ago, it was pretty unnerving the first time down.

I bought a bunch of jewelry at the tribal swap meet tables near the bottom.

Since it was sort of a "shelf" roadbed I wonder how long it will take to put that back into working order. It's a ways from Page, quite a ways from Flagstaff and the only road to get from one to the other.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
28. It will take awhile to get it back in order. They really need a new roadway completely
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:19 PM
Feb 2013

Built to today's standards. See my post below for a bit of the history of it.

You can go via Tuba City/Arizona 98, but that takes you way around.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
15. A little history on that section of road
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:51 PM
Feb 2013

Before the 1960's, the road, and Page itself were not there.

Once the Bureau of Reclamation had decided on the Glen Canyon Damsite (basically on the Utah-Arizona border), they needed access to it. They told Utah and Arizona whomever built their section of the road first would get the town the Bureau would build to support the dam. (Of course, without telling either state they had already arranged a land swap with the Navajo Nation for the mesa that Page sits on.

That section of road was built in record speed - a wonder it hasn't collapsed before.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
38. It looks like the fill moved, but not the unaltered geology. Humans caused this
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:51 AM
Feb 2013

by their lack of doing the job properly, obviously. You can see that much clearly on the aerial video.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
43. I can't look at either the video or the twitter image
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:25 AM
Feb 2013

(work blockage) so it's difficult for me to see a "collapse" versus a thrust fault. It really does look more like the rock moved up through the road than the other way around.

It's too bad as well that the reporter has never seen this kind of thing in person. I never would have considered writing in visuals related to video games and movies

DallasNE

(8,001 posts)
17. So Gov. Brewer, Do You Have A 2nd Amendment Remedy Ready
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:54 PM
Feb 2013

Obviously the infrastructure is in fine shape since no Republicans want to spend a dime on infrastructure meaning it must be a 2nd Amendment issue.

This actually looks like an erosion problem to me. The ground washed out from under the roadbed so it eventually collapsed of its own weight.

2naSalit

(102,333 posts)
21. Yeah
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:09 PM
Feb 2013

that's what it looks like. Thanks for the history of it, no wonder it was set up as poorly as it was. I used to run semis down that "hill" a long time ago, what you said makes perfect sense.


to AZ DOT...

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
26. Wow a geological event that only occurs on the painted lines on a highway. No faulty construction
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:17 PM
Feb 2013

there.

marble falls

(71,766 posts)
33. I've worked at Wauweap Marina several summers when Del Webb ran it and it looked sort of post....
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:55 PM
Feb 2013

apocalyptic even then. A lot of the original "Planet of the Apes" was filmed there and looking out the panoramic window in the restaurant was a lot like looking into a diorama in a museum. Nothing for 100 miles in any of the three ways out of there.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
34. This is the "illegal fault"
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:06 AM
Feb 2013

If they didn't use the road, it wouldn't need fixin.
Jan Brewer 3.2.1....

RussBLib

(10,597 posts)
40. You knew it was only a matter of time that the GOP would blame Obama...
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:33 AM
Feb 2013

...for neglecting the nations infrastructure.

History means nothing to these clowns.

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