North Korea vows to cancel Korean War ceasefire

[defacto7]

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Source: CBC, Associated Press

North Korea vowed Tuesday to cancel the 1953 cease-fire that ended the Korean War, citing a U.S.-led push for punishing United Nations sanctions over its recent nuclear test and ongoing U.S.-South Korean joint military drills.

Without elaborating, the Korean People's Army Supreme Command warned of "surgical strikes" meant to unify the divided Korean Peninsula and of an indigenous, "precision nuclear striking tool."

Heated military rhetoric is common from North Korea when tensions rise on the Korean Peninsula and during U.S.-South Korean war games, but this latest statement is unusually specific. It threatens to block a communications line between North Korea and the United States at the border village separating the two Koreas, and to nullify the 60-year-old Korean War armistice agreement on March 11, when two weeks of U.S.-South Korean military drills will draw 10,000 South Korean and 3,500 U.S. forces. An earlier round of drills between the allies began earlier this month.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/03/05/north-korea-ceasefire.html?cmp=rss

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[geek tragedy]

1. Quick, deploy Rodman! nt

[Nanjing to Seoul]

2. According to The Worm, North Korea is just the most happening, hip place to go.

His state-led tour and his specific jaunt through the best parts of Pyongyang proved it.

[Mz Pip]

5. I'm sure Kim Jong Il

put out his Sunday best for Dennis.

Still unclear how he even managed to pull off getting into the country. Dennis and Kim Jong Il seem unlikely BFFs.

[DeSwiss]

10. Un, not Il.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

16. Kim Jong Yoda is dead. The Great Leader of that nut farm is his son, Jabba the Kim

[awoke_in_2003]

6. Maybe it is because of him...

that NK is doing this

[Rhiannon12866]

15. My first thought, too!

[Diclotican]

3. defacto7

defacto7

That means DKPR want to go to war again - after more than 60 year with a armistice - who ended when NK was not able to win the war - and was forced, not just by the US/UN forces, but also by Joseph Stalin who more or less twisted Kim Il Sungs hand and told him, rather un politely, that if he do not stop this war - the mighty USSR would intervene - to stop him them self.. And in 1953 USSR had a few soldiers with experience going to war - as it was just less than a decade after world war two... After the devastating war - and armistice in 1953, NK more or less was left to its own devices - and in fact, for the most part was the most prosperous Korean country - until the 1970s and 1980 and 1990s, where The Republic of Korea, was not just on the same page economical and industrial - but in fact turned its back on DKPR, and was by the end of the 1980s, more or less a democratic country - as the OL in 1988 opened the political system in ROC to a level where democracy and a more open country was the solution.. And as ROC started to grow, and make more and more people wealthy - DKPR was starting to falter- by the end of the 1980s the command economy who have government DKPR for more than 40 years was starting to fall apart - and after Kim Il Sungs death in 1994, the whole system more or less was falling apart - and even though the DKPR government survived - it was a devastating blow to the population in DKPR. Millions starved to death (and it is said to be one of the worst way to die) and the whole economical system more or less ended in chaos - and have never really been able to be build up again... Before late 1980s, the rations north koreans was getting from state owned farm's was suitable for a decent living - after 1994, it was in many cases, nothing.. People was starving to death - and expert think, that between 800.000 and 1.5 million north koreans was killed by famine and illnesses between 1994 and 1998.. Who for the most part was unknown outside of DKPR. As the government tried to hide the truth about the level of famine in the country..

And in the 1990s and later one, DKPR have been given millions, maybe billions worth of food, and other supplies to keep the country afloat - a lot of loans have also been given to DKPR. Even though everyone know, the loans will never be repaid even without interest.. Mostly because DPKR are in no shape to pay back anything...

DKPR is a country ruled by a ruthless government - who's Army is the real institution who is supported by the government - as long as the generals have the upper hand - no possibility of a more sensible approach from Pyongyang is possible today..

And if DKPR really is to quit the armistice, then all checks is off - and when PRC would have problems controlling the situation.. As it is, PRC is one of the key actors to keep DKPR in check.. If even PRC are not able to keep DKPR in check - I fear another war in the korean peninsula - with horrible possibilities - including the use of nuclear weapons.. DKPR is desperate enough to at least lob a few nukes over the borders before been pulverized - and even just one bomb, will do horrible damage to ROC...

Diclotican

[defacto7]

8. Thank you very much for this overview.

It is the sad truth that the people of DKPR have no way out of this pit due to the hard line of their military and the diplomatic conditions that are so foreign to the culture they have planted. I have probably said it too many times today alone, but I really do not believe KJU is in charge. There is no sense in the actions of their regime vs. the boy prince who plays BBall. There is a boiling of generational sociopathy underlying a regime which lives in a world that is not the one the rest of us live in. I propose that their military powers don't even live in the same reality that the rest of their own country lives in. This is the explosive sociopathic sphere that could bring pain to millions of people that are completely alien to them. The whole world is alien to them.

When we make jokes about the repetitive sabre rattling they have been making for years, it will only make the element of surprise more devastating to the rest of the world when they make their final act of desperation/heroic-gesture. There is a sickness in the collective mind of the powers in DKPR, and there is no reason to expect logic or rational behaviour to intervene.

[bluedigger]

4. I'm thinking that their strategic position has not improved in the last 60 years.

Can an entire government go suicidally insane? I hope we don't find out.

[harkonen]

7. North Korea-the Nuclear Mouse that "Roared."

and then was subsequently squashed flatter than a pancake (if that is even possible!).

[defacto7]

9. At whose expense?

Just theirs? I think not.

[davidthegnome]

11. Are they really that crazy?

Nuclear war would not be good for North Korea.

[defacto7]

13. Or anyone else.

If you look at the complete isolation they have created and that has been created for them as well, yes... I think they could be that crazy.

[davidthegnome]

18. It wouldn't be good for anyone

But the fact of the matter is basically that North Korea would be obliterated if they fired a nuke at South Korea or the US. Completely obliterated. Other Nations might suffer a great deal, there would be a cost in lives... but their Country would be reduced to rubble. Are they going to follow their glorious leader into a sort of... Nation-wide suicide attempt?

What are our options here? Can we cancel our military drills and instead send some diplomats? Perhaps some food? Maybe we could negotiate a treaty of some sort to convince them to knock it off with the nukes. I don't know. What a mess.

[Amonester]

12. Yawn

Methinks they're hungry and want free food.

Not that I think they shouldn't keep getting some help, but their stupid (and dangerous) war games for food is getting old.

And scary.

When rising temps will reduce the global food bank, ya think they won't start blowing up everybody and themselves?

[defacto7]

14. Methinks their top military

don't give a flying god damn about food. They have all they want, the soldiers have the propaganda blaring in their ears and the rest of the population don't matter.

[Amonester]

19. So instead of getting shitty food for their starving comrades...

they just want to play with their guns, create a bloody mess like no one before them (except...), only to end up getting themselves fumed out of this world in a day or two?

I don't buy it, unless the Cro-Magnons aren't all extinct yet.

[DonCoquixote]

17. Client states

The real mark of a superpower is to have a client state that can do evil, and hide behind their big brother superpower.

America, let's face it, ours is Israel, which can do whatever it wants and have no punishment,
Russia has Serbia, for which she went into World war one for, and almost went into ww3
China has NK

The client state appeals to the vanity of the host, appealing to the nation as it likes to see itself. NK is the last communist nation, Serbia appeals to Russian pride, and israel appeals to America's idea of being a "chosen people."

China needs to tell NK that they will NOT be their Israel.

[Lasher]

20. Locking...

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