Car theft ends with baby strangled

[Nanjing to Seoul]

Source: Global Times

A man who stole a car with a 2-month-old boy inside in Changchun, Jilin Province, confessed to police late Tuesday afternoon he had murdered the infant.

Zhou Xijun, 48, stole the SUV on Monday morning, triggering a province-wide manhunt involving 3,500 police officers.

The case sparked public outcry as soon as it was reported by local media, with many Web users on microblogging service Sina Weibo urging each other to help find the baby.

Zhou turned himself in to police at 5 pm Tuesday. He told officers that he drove to Gongzhuling county, about 60 kilometers southwest of Changchun, where he strangled the baby and buried it in snow.

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This is where my liberal "no death penalty" attitude slips. This prick deserves to fucking die!

Changchun is freezing cold. The baby would have damn near froze waiting for the store (probably made of concrete with little heat, as are most stores up north in China) to get warm. I would have done the same thing.

MY wife wants to see this guy fry too. She's Chinese.

[cali]

1. Being against the dp means being against it in EVERY SINGLE case

if you are not, then don't claim to be anti-dp. You are not. and that's fine, but it's just not honest to claim to anti-dp and then make exceptions.

And yes, the guy committed a heinous crime.

[Tien1985]

2. You can be against something

Because you know what the right thing is--and still acknowledge that your gut reaction calls for something else.

I'm anti death penalty. There are some crimes that make me wish the person who committed them were dead. I wouldn't vote that way though, or condone it if that's what happened.

Look at the guy who accidentally beat the man raping his daughter to death--it was an accident, and the father knew he went too far, even calling for help. If the rapist had survived he should've gone to trail, but no one was particularly concerned about his death once all was said and done.

I don't think it's black and white.

[Javaman]

6. False equivelancy...

one person is already dead, the other is not dead.

It's easy to say you are okay with someone being dead AFTER they are dead via an accident.

That is not quite the same as saying you are okay with someone dying if they hadn't died.

I recall that story about the guy killing the rapist. The guy went back to his truck and got a gun then went over and shot him. That's premeditated murder. The guy chose to be judge, jury and executioner.

The guy who strangled the baby, will have the benefit of a trial (I hope, it being china and all), and will hopefully serve a life sentence.

As for the guy who chose to kill the rapist, yes, there is extenuating circumstances and I hope he has a good lawyer, but never the less, he should serve time for killing someone.

[Tien1985]

11. Different story

The one I'm referring to was a man who found another man raping his daughter (5) behind his barn at his house, he pulled the man off of her and beat him badly, realizing he had gone too far, he called 911 and pleaded with them to help and several family members attempted CPR. The rapist died and the father wasn't even brought up on charges.

I do know about the father whose boys were killed and ran back to his house got his gun and shot the drunk driver who murdered them. Different case though. And I think he is going to trial (which is just) but I doubt he'll serve time.

Really though, my point is, a person can hold different views on something beig lawful vs something they wish could happen. It's the public persception that I'm talking about. I don't believe in the death penalty, and would not press for it nor advocate someone getting it. If the baby murderer jumped off a bridge tomorrow, however, I wouldn't rejoice, but I certainly wouldn't shed a tear either.

Here's the story I was talking about:
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/20/texas-father-who-beat-daughters-molestor-to-death-will-not-be-charged

Here's the guy who went back for his gun:
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=18477907

[Javaman]

14. I stand corrected.

but never the less the false equivelency, I believe, still stands.

I just use poor examples.

[Xipe Totec]

3. With respect, that's the kind of absolutism that cost Michael Dukakis the Presidency.

..when Bernard Shaw, the moderator of the debate, asked Dukakis, "Governor, if Kitty Dukakis (his wife) were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?" Dukakis replied, "No, I don't, and I think you know that I've opposed the death penalty during all of my life", and explained his stance. After the debate, many observers felt Dukakis's answer lacked the passion one would expect of a person discussing a loved one's rape and death. Many– including Dukakis himself– believe this in part, cost him the election, as his poll numbers dropped from 49% to 42% nationally that night.

[enlightenment]

9. Sometimes standing by your principles is

the correct thing to do. What was the alternative? That he compromise his principles to appeal to the emotions of a largely blood-thirsty, eye-for-an-eye public?

I recall that debate and I know that I would have lost respect for the man had he tried to weasel-word his way out of that question.

The bottom line is pretty clear. One is either opposed to the death penalty or one isn't. If a person can find exceptions to their opposition, they are not opposed. They may find it distasteful and genuinely believe it should be used only in certain circumstances - but at the base level, they do not fundamentally oppose the notion of killing someone convicted of a crime for that crime.

[Tien1985]

13. He probably could have

Explained his POV better. He sounded completely unemotional and robotic, instead of sounding like he understood the gravity of the situation, but was holding firm to his convictions. He makes it sound black and white, and for many people it's not.

For my part, I think the way to convince others isn't to seem as if you've had your beliefs programmed into you, but to express the humanity in your position despite sometimes muddy conditions.

[DaveJ]

4. It's not victims of the death penalty that concern me.

I'm not against the death penalty due to its severity. Rather, I could never employ someone to kill others who have been captured and are no longer a threat to the innocent. Killing caged people is pointless and, imo, damaging to general welfare.

[no1dolo]

5. China's one child law

I always feel sorry whenever there is a tragedy with children in China such as those poor parents who were left childless after the elementary school collasped. This is a country where most are allowed only one child! You can never replace a child but to know you are too old, too poor, too oppressed to have another - your one chance is lost.

[get the red out]

7. Psychopaths happen everywhere

Whatever the Chinese law does with this monster is fine by me. I seriously doubt it will be pleasant.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

15. At minimum, hard labor in the winter prisons in Gansu. At maximum, lethal injection in Kunming

or bullet to the base of the skull in Henan.

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. I can't stand the world

I mean, honestly.

I wouldn't worry about the death penalty in this case. This guy will have a bullet in his head by Labor Day.

[Comrade Grumpy]

10. This should be posted in Jilin Province local news.

[jsr]

12. His days are numbered now.