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MotherPetrie

(3,145 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:31 PM Mar 2013

GOP Senators Praise Obama’s Outreach On Grand Bargain

Source: TPM

Ordinarily the president would speak directly with leadership. But as the White House sees it, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) have been unwilling to begin a discussion about averting the sequester in a balanced way. The two GOP leaders have repeatedly ruled out raising any new revenue. So Obama is searching for Republicans who are willing to engage.

As part of his outreach, Obama has invited a number of Republican senators to dinner on Wednesday night at the Jefferson Hotel in Washington. Those expected to attend, according to The Associated Press, are Sens. Graham, John McCain (AZ), Kelly Ayotte (NH), Roy Blunt (MO), Pat Toomey (PA), Rob Portman (OH), Bob Corker (TN) and Ron Johnson (WI).

Graham said the broad consensus is that the deficit must be reduced by cutting long-term entitlement spending and extracting revenues by reforming the tax code to eliminate deductions.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/03/obama-outreach-gop-senators-grand-bargain.php?ref=fpb



If these monsters are suddenly praising Obama, he must really be telling them what they want to hear.

And if he's telling them what they want to hear, he's willing to give them what they want.

Which means those of us dependent on Social Security and Medicare are going to be screwed. Because these monsters are NOT going to be satisfied with any action that doesn't screw us.
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GOP Senators Praise Obama’s Outreach On Grand Bargain (Original Post) MotherPetrie Mar 2013 OP
the negotiations begin with the republicans position and go downhill from the there msongs Mar 2013 #1
They will only go downhill for old and poor people. MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #2
Austerity nineteen50 Mar 2013 #25
Will Cough Up Seniors For A Grand Bargain To Screw Seniors TheMastersNemesis Mar 2013 #3
Ah, what a bunch of hyperbole. theaocp Mar 2013 #4
Imagine ... GeorgeGist Mar 2013 #23
This just in DJ13 Mar 2013 #5
I hope this is not a BOHIC moment for those dependent on SS and Medicare. Autumn Mar 2013 #6
Graham is probably rubbing in hands in glee at the thought of 2014 now. forestpath Mar 2013 #11
Really? sheshe2 Mar 2013 #28
Really, Lindsey Graham finds it “incredibly encouraging.” Autumn Mar 2013 #30
No, Autumn, I have no links, sheshe2 Mar 2013 #33
No you are wrong. The article says nothing about Obama caving. Autumn Mar 2013 #34
If I am wrong what does the quote mean? sheshe2 Mar 2013 #35
I clicked on the link and read the article, I really never got that far in the OP Autumn Mar 2013 #37
Oh the pre-whining has begun sharp_stick Mar 2013 #7
Call it whatever you want . . . markpkessinger Mar 2013 #10
WHINE! Whine, whine, whine, whine, WHINE! I intend to whine my ass off. MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #14
+1, sharp_stick sheshe2 Mar 2013 #36
Trousers lowered, ankles firmly grasped, Plucketeer Mar 2013 #8
Bwahahahahahaha!!! Oh, don't worry... MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #16
He's tried relentlessly to give them what they want - sounds like he finally succeeded. forestpath Mar 2013 #9
It's almost like they cooked it up in advance. MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #17
It does seem VERY much like that! FiveGoodMen Mar 2013 #19
I wonder what the "Grand Bargain" davidthegnome Mar 2013 #12
Not a good sign Pakid Mar 2013 #13
Blunt, Toomey and Johnson are full-on teabaggers KamaAina Mar 2013 #15
Glad to hear that the guy I voted for is keeping the enemy happy. FiveGoodMen Mar 2013 #18
Watch Your Wallets... WillyT Mar 2013 #20
Entitlements mean we're entitled to them. tecelote Mar 2013 #21
You're so right, fix blatant tax give aways and loopholes. Tax the Koch bastards. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #31
What are you trying to do, FIX the problem?! blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #39
Are these GOPers members of the FIX THE DEBT organization? DhhD Mar 2013 #22
And in 2016 it will be "we HAVE to support this conservative Democrat UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #24
IF this were to go through, that shit is off the table Autumn Mar 2013 #27
And why wouldn't they? Social Security and Medicare ON THE TABLE, NorthCarolina Mar 2013 #26
Disaster Doctor_J Mar 2013 #29
The hope changed, I guess. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #32
Why shouldn't Republicans praise Obama's Grand Sellout? They crafted it. blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #38
 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
3. Will Cough Up Seniors For A Grand Bargain To Screw Seniors
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:37 PM
Mar 2013

Obama could pull a Clinton and force the Dems to sacrifice seniors. And then the Dems will get shellacked worse in 2014 than they did in 2010. Obama's weak defense of Social Security And Medicare caused that mess.

theaocp

(4,550 posts)
4. Ah, what a bunch of hyperbole.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:37 PM
Mar 2013

We don't know what's going to happen, so why don't we wait to complain about this until it's too late? Jeez. Eat your damn peas.

Autumn

(48,715 posts)
6. I hope this is not a BOHIC moment for those dependent on SS and Medicare.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:51 PM
Mar 2013

The fact that Lindsey Graham finds it “incredibly encouraging.” scares the shit out of me.

sheshe2

(95,530 posts)
28. Really?
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:41 PM
Mar 2013
The fact that Lindsey Graham finds it “incredibly encouraging.”


since when have you ever believed a word Graham, or for that matter his cohort McCain have said? Now the Gop's words are facts to be believed? Over our President's?

Autumn

(48,715 posts)
30. Really, Lindsey Graham finds it “incredibly encouraging.”
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:49 PM
Mar 2013

that was what he said. believe it or not, that doesn't enter into it. That was what he said, and the fact that that little fucker is encouraged bothers me. Do you have a link where Obama says Lindsey Graham saying that he finds the conversation they had “incredibly encouraging.” is bullshit and he ( Graham) has no reason to be encouraged?

sheshe2

(95,530 posts)
33. No, Autumn, I have no links,
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:07 PM
Mar 2013

all I am saying, is why should we believe anything that they say. They are lying weasels, that will do and say anything to make this President fail. So why are we listening.

The OP said:

If these monsters are suddenly praising Obama, he must really be telling them what they want to hear.

And if he's telling them what they want to hear, he's willing to give them what they want.


Which means those of us dependent on Social Security and Medicare are going to be screwed. Because these monsters are NOT going to be satisfied with any action that doesn't screw us.


So the OP is saying that the President is caving, giving up everything to the GOP and betraying all of America? I am a little confused.

Autumn

(48,715 posts)
34. No you are wrong. The article says nothing about Obama caving.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:19 PM
Mar 2013

The article says Lindsey Graham found their conversations “incredibly encouraging.” That really bothers me, I have no idea what Obama is going to do. No one does, all we know is he has offered a superlative chained CPI . Anything that that little weasel fucker Graham finds encouraging, I'm going to find troubling. If he's happy, I'm not. I find nothing confusing about that.

sheshe2

(95,530 posts)
35. If I am wrong what does the quote mean?
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:10 PM
Mar 2013
If these monsters are suddenly praising Obama, he must really be telling them what they want to hear.

And if he's telling them what they want to hear, he's willing to give them what they want.


Which means those of us dependent on Social Security and Medicare are going to be screwed. Because these monsters are NOT going to be satisfied with any action that doesn't screw us.


The quote is not from the article, I read it. The quote is from MP...
And if he's telling them what they want to hear, he's willing to give them what they want.


Sure sounds like a caving statement. IMHO.





Autumn

(48,715 posts)
37. I clicked on the link and read the article, I really never got that far in the OP
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:29 PM
Mar 2013

and that was what I commented on. The posted article. If you have a problem with what MP said, that's between you and her.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
7. Oh the pre-whining has begun
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:09 PM
Mar 2013

a little ahead of schedule but it's become a practiced mode of lack of conversation on DU so I'm not all that surprised.

markpkessinger

(8,871 posts)
10. Call it whatever you want . . .
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:59 PM
Mar 2013

. . . But this is an issue of MAJOR importance, particiularly to those of us for whom Social Security/Medicare are not so many years away. Sorry you are unable to appreciate that fact.

 

MotherPetrie

(3,145 posts)
14. WHINE! Whine, whine, whine, whine, WHINE! I intend to whine my ass off.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:13 PM
Mar 2013

If you don't like it, feel absolutely FREE to ignore me, block me, or whatever you need to do to be spared from my keeping my head out of the sand!

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
9. He's tried relentlessly to give them what they want - sounds like he finally succeeded.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:54 PM
Mar 2013

I am disgusted beyond words.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
12. I wonder what the "Grand Bargain"
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:11 PM
Mar 2013

is going to look like? FDR, many years ago, gave us The New Deal. I'm guessing that Obama is offering to weaken the social safety net, drain money from social security, medicare, likely programs like TANF, medicaid, food stamps. I'm sure the Republicans will agree to remove some tax loopholes, but I suspect that, overall, the grand bargain is going to favor the right and the 1% far more than the rest of us.

From The New Deal, to The Grand Bargain.... damn. If we still needed proof that Washington is not on our side, I think this is it. I wonder what the expense of the dinner will amount to? It's sad and ironic that we're paying these people (via tax dollars) to destroy our social safety net while living like royalty. I can't decide whether to be angry, depressed, or to just shrug and write it all off as politicians doing what politicians do best.

Pakid

(478 posts)
13. Not a good sign
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:12 PM
Mar 2013

when the nuts like what you have to say . I get the feeling that my wife and I had been plan on working until we drop dead At least that way we might avoid eating cat food and doing without health care. As it was I had planed on working until 70 so my SS would be at it max now if the GOP get it way retirement is something that will only happen when I am to sick to enjoy it. Thanks you useless pile of rich garbage for screwing so many of us over with the full help of the people who job it use to be to work for all of us!!! I believe that as of today there are two elected representatives who we can trust Bernie Sanders and Alan Grayson there might be a few more I missed if so sorry about that.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
15. Blunt, Toomey and Johnson are full-on teabaggers
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:15 PM
Mar 2013

the other five have their moments of lucidity. But the presence of those three teahadists is disconcerting, to say the least.

tecelote

(5,155 posts)
21. Entitlements mean we're entitled to them.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:36 PM
Mar 2013

How did they get "on the table"?

Taxes are supposed to be used to run the country.

We don't have an entitlement problem. We have a tax problem. Those that benefit the most don't want to pay their fair share of the taxes. Plain and simple.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
24. And in 2016 it will be "we HAVE to support this conservative Democrat
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:59 PM
Mar 2013

because the Republican is even worse." Wall Street has us right where it wants us.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
26. And why wouldn't they? Social Security and Medicare ON THE TABLE,
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:22 PM
Mar 2013

coupled with a ready and willing President, has GOT to be an absolute wet dream for the GOP. Will plans for the final assault on these programs be laid out, or simply finalized as the case may be, over dinner tonight?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
29. Disaster
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:41 PM
Mar 2013

Worst possible outcome - the Repukes get everything they want while Boner and McTurtle get to save face. Tell me again who won the election? And what exactly did I get for voting for Obama (D)?

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