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Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:32 AM Mar 2013

$4 million in marijuana found on Santa Barbara beach

Source: LA Times

Santa Barbara County officials discovered $4-million worth of marijuana next to a boat Sunday at Arroyo Camada Beach.

Officials said they found an estimated 2,000 pounds of marijuana wrapped in plastic bags on the beach.

Santa Barbara County sheriff's officials "located an apparently abandoned 30-foot “Panga” style boat with two outboard engines and 20+ fuel containers on board," the department said in a news release. "Sheriff’s detectives located a significant amount of evidence that was consistent with marijuana smuggling activities, including trash and debris that was strewn about the beach and nearby coastal access trails."

<snip>
This is the second big pot discovery this month in Santa Barbara County.

Earlier this month, marijuana with an estimated value of at least $1 million was discovered Thursday near a boat that had crashed on a beach near Vandenberg Air Force Base.


Read more: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/03/4-million-in-marijuana-found-on-santa-barbara-beach.html



Sheriff’s detectives located a significant amount of evidence that was consistent with marijuana smuggling activities

- like 2000 lbs of weed and a boat.
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$4 million in marijuana found on Santa Barbara beach (Original Post) Paul E Ester Mar 2013 OP
20 of these boats found in Santa Barbara over the last year. Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #1
It's so silly. eggplant Mar 2013 #2
It's on it's way inland is my guess. Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #3
Because sometimes I like to smoke doobies when I am working in my studio and I don't necessarily ... marble falls Mar 2013 #10
There's something screwy going on here. lexw Mar 2013 #4
agree, those over loaded boats aren't coming from mexico. Sunlei Mar 2013 #29
I wish I found 2,000 lbs of marijuana. At least I'd know what to do with it. Smoke break! Thegonagle Mar 2013 #5
Meh. Probably just a coincidence. Some high winds twirled some pot and plastic into bales struggle4progress Mar 2013 #6
Thank God! Now they can return it to the owners! grahamhgreen Mar 2013 #7
Yikes. The Panga boat traffickers are intensifying. Hekate Mar 2013 #8
They're criminal for importing and you're not criminal for smoking it? Isn't that what we call in .. marble falls Mar 2013 #11
Do you drive? Do you only buy domestically produced and refined oil products? Just asking- we firenewt Mar 2013 #16
No. I don't. Hydro is local, commercial is imported. Secondly, the criminialization is what makes .. marble falls Mar 2013 #17
Don't be naive Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #18
BS. Sinaloa doesn't give shit about the comercial pot racket. Now Toot, speed, Cialis... marble falls Mar 2013 #19
50% of their business Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #20
I don't trust any facts regarding the Mexican drug trade. I've lived close to he border in Texas.... marble falls Mar 2013 #21
I don't know what you mean. Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #22
Whatever. Law and order to Mexico. Brilliant concept. Any idea on how soon this will happen?..... marble falls Mar 2013 #23
Yes Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #24
That's a stretch, ain't it? If anything the Mexican grown weed will save the clear cut national ... marble falls Mar 2013 #25
Man, are you ignorant of what takes place in our national forests Hekate Mar 2013 #27
Wow. Just wow. I do not smoke pot. I did not smoke it when young, either. I voted to legalize it. Hekate Mar 2013 #26
A little green for Saint Pattys day. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #9
Save the Bales! slackmaster Mar 2013 #12
Send it mpcamb Mar 2013 #13
They don't want no schwag..nt Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #15
One ton of meri, guajira one ton of meri. Gregorian Mar 2013 #14
can a 30 foot boat even float with 2k of pot, some people and 20!! full gas cans? Sunlei Mar 2013 #28

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
2. It's so silly.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:44 AM
Mar 2013

Why would anyone bother to import weed into California? Who would choose commercial Mexican crap over locally grown quality weed?

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
10. Because sometimes I like to smoke doobies when I am working in my studio and I don't necessarily ...
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 10:51 AM
Mar 2013

want to get off the task at hand. I obtain hydro all the time and I have to obtain commercial Mex by the quarter pound tobe sure to have doobie rollage available. Thank goodness for the importers!

Thegonagle

(806 posts)
5. I wish I found 2,000 lbs of marijuana. At least I'd know what to do with it. Smoke break!
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:41 AM
Mar 2013

It wasn't the weed and the boat that gave it away though. It was the trash and debris. Trash and debris will get you every time if you don't bring the A-game.

struggle4progress

(126,156 posts)
6. Meh. Probably just a coincidence. Some high winds twirled some pot and plastic into bales
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:46 AM
Mar 2013

and dropped it with other trash near some boat. Happens all the time apparently

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
8. Yikes. The Panga boat traffickers are intensifying.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 04:01 AM
Mar 2013

I live here, and that's just dangerous.

Oh hell, when will Prohibition end so we can put these criminals out of business?

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
11. They're criminal for importing and you're not criminal for smoking it? Isn't that what we call in ..
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 10:54 AM
Mar 2013

Teapublicans a "cognitive disconnect"?

 

firenewt

(298 posts)
16. Do you drive? Do you only buy domestically produced and refined oil products? Just asking- we
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:25 PM
Mar 2013

support corporate and criminal terrorists in many ways we are not aware of.

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
17. No. I don't. Hydro is local, commercial is imported. Secondly, the criminialization is what makes ..
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:37 PM
Mar 2013

new criminals, - the market. And the old criminal more bold. Illegalization is what makes makes for high paying jobs for those willing to carry guns. And use them. Mexico isn't any more criminal or revolutionary because I buy pot imported from Mexico. Though there is no doubt guns are run on drug money investment. Legalize it and all of the sudden there's no need for guns. Thirdly, I buy as little petroleum products as I possibly can. Partially because buying US petroleum only benefits the conservatives in this nation who want to infringe my rights.

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
18. Don't be naive
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:49 PM
Mar 2013
Mexico isn't any more criminal or revolutionary because I buy pot imported from Mexico.


When you buy schwag from mexico your money is likely going to the sinaloa cartel run by shorty guzman one of the most murderous criminals in the world.

Cocaine and Marijuana smuggling have resulted in thousands of deaths as the Gulf cartel, the sinaloa cartel, los zetas and others fight over the lucrative black market.

That doesn't mean it should stay illegal, just don't pat yourself on the back for subsidizing a murderous black market.

Marijuana from the emerald triangle is much less likely to be soaked in the blood of campesinos.

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
19. BS. Sinaloa doesn't give shit about the comercial pot racket. Now Toot, speed, Cialis...
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:24 PM
Mar 2013

Viagra .... they're all over it. Keeping it illegal and giving high paying jobs to criminals armed to the teeth is what's wrong. Want to break Sinaloan influence on the pot market assuming it has any interest in it - legalize it. The gangsters will move on to something else.

Doesn't the Prohibition era in this country give you any insight? The shooting did not start until it was made illegal.

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
20. 50% of their business
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:28 PM
Mar 2013
However, experts and studies note that legalization in two U.S. states — even if the federal government allows it — probably won’t put Mexico’s drug cartels out of business.
In the lead-up to the referenda in Mexico and Colorado, the Mexican Competitiveness Institute released a study estimating that Mexico’s cartels would lose $1.425 billion if the initiative passed in Colorado and $1.372 billion if Washington voted to legalize. The organization also predicted that drug trafficking revenues would fall 20 to 30 percent, and the Sinaloa cartel, which would be the most affected, would lose up to 50 percent.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/09/how-marijuana-legalization-will-affect-mexicos-cartels-in-charts/

Shorty would like to thank you for making him rich and funding his murder and corruption.

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
21. I don't trust any facts regarding the Mexican drug trade. I've lived close to he border in Texas....
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:51 PM
Mar 2013

and Arizona close to half my life and I've lived through interdiction as an adult since Nixon tied the border up and introduced the general public to coke and speed and Quaaludes ...... I do not believe Sinaloa gets as much as 50% of their income from commercial weed. Maybe if Joaquín Archivaldo Guzmán Loera personally tells me so, but I'm not too sure even then.

But heck. Lets cut to the chase. I don't care if I bought the air-filler cap on his spare tire with the drug profits from this doobie I am about to take out onto the back porch and only one of us will return, when I go to the kitchen and get a dos Equis and a piece of Myer's lemon. The reason is that there's more money in Mexico because of the trade. Just like the defense industry in the US most of the people there are not gangsters. Someone actually has to grow and process the weed. Some folks think that since Loera has been in Sinaloa there's been law and order and less local political corruption. Maybe Mexico needs to clean its house. I don't know. But the criminalization of drugs in this country has fucked up that one. Legalize it.

I buy Mexican swag because I like it and I don't want to smoke hydro all the freaking time. Give me an American version of Mexican commercial and I might just obtain it. I don't like corporate grow houses not being market driven. Like, why can't Detroit give us an electric car? Especially when big oil never came out to help them in the days of bailout. Almost as if cars are razors or canaries and oil is the razor blades and bird seed and pet supplies.

Know what I mean?

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
22. I don't know what you mean.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:02 PM
Mar 2013

Fuck the mexican cartels.

Fuck commercial brick weed.

Stop supporting murderers and justifying your flawed logic that shorty is bringing law and order to mexico one massacre at a time.

Spend some time on http://www.blogdelnarco.com looking at the depraved handiwork of these murderous gangs and get back to me with how benign the mexican drug trade is.

Peace

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
23. Whatever. Law and order to Mexico. Brilliant concept. Any idea on how soon this will happen?.....
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:36 PM
Mar 2013

200 years of corruption, revolution and counter revolution. And all because I smoke some compensino grown commercial weed. AAALLLLL that on me.

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
25. That's a stretch, ain't it? If anything the Mexican grown weed will save the clear cut national ...
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:54 PM
Mar 2013

forests. Legalize it. There's plenty of acreage for hemp. Jeeez .... clear cut the national forests and all I want to do is burn a little Mexican commercial dope.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
27. Man, are you ignorant of what takes place in our national forests
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 10:53 PM
Mar 2013

The cartels come up and plant their "gardens" in sensitive habitat, divert water into it, pollute it, leave behind some guys in the camp to guard the investment with guns -- basically they degrade the habitat and are a danger to innocent hikers. Also their campfires are a danger in our tinder-dry Western forests. Not nice. Not a victimless crime.

Grow your own, why don't you?

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
26. Wow. Just wow. I do not smoke pot. I did not smoke it when young, either. I voted to legalize it.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 10:45 PM
Mar 2013

I was in my 50s when a friend pressed me to try some of her stash, and all it did was make my asthma kick up and give me a hangover. So thanks, but no thanks. (Regional forest fires make my asthma kick up, too, just in case you think this was a one-off reaction.)

The Panga boat smugglers are criminals on many levels, just as the Mafia was during the liquor Prohibition era. The Mexican cartels are dangerous, just as the Mafia was. You think the Mafia was your friend, just because they supplied the booze? Think again.

Outlawing a drug with popularity as wide as alcohol was a big, big mistake. Fortunately Prohibition was repealed. Unfortunately, marijuana was misclassified as a drug far more dangerous than alcohol with no utilitarian purpose. That was as big a mistake as Prohibition, and worse, because it has gone on longer, has lumped smokers in with meth users and heroin addicts, and has given felony records to millions of young men and women.

A person does not have to be a pot smoker to recognize that the law itself is criminal. A person does not have to be a narc to recognize that the Mexican cartels are also criminal, and dangerous. I can hold more than one thought in my head at one time.

Okay?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
28. can a 30 foot boat even float with 2k of pot, some people and 20!! full gas cans?
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:35 AM
Mar 2013

possible 3,000 lbs of total weight? were the bales water soaked? when you look at a map it's hard to figure out where they came from.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Arroyo+Camada+Beach&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&rlz=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=Q-dHUfqBDcTfyQGuyoFY&ved=0CAsQ_AUoAg

America loses massive amounts of tax revenues from the huge underground econemy. Plus we spend billions on 'beach clean-up' and the plants are easy to grow again. panga boats are everywhere.

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