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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 07:34 AM Mar 2013

N.D. lawmakers define start of life, outlaw abortion

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Source: USA Today

North Dakota lawmakers Friday completed action to outlaw almost all abortions, voting to define life as beginning at conception.

The Republican-dominated House also approved a so-called personhood amendment that asks voters to change the state's constitution to recognize and protect "the inalienable right to life of every human being at any stage of development." Besides conferring human rights on fertilized eggs and outlawing abortion, the proposition, which will be on the November 2014 ballot, could potentially affect end-of-life decisions for adults.

A third piece of legislation passed Friday by the House requires abortion clinic physicians to have admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles. The legislation is aimed at shutting down the state's only abortion clinic, in Fargo.

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A week ago, lawmakers sent Gov. Jack Dalrymple, a Republican, one bill that outlaws abortion as early as six weeks and another that forbids women from aborting a fetus that has a serious genetic defect.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/22/north-dakota-conception-abortion/2010747/

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N.D. lawmakers define start of life, outlaw abortion (Original Post) cali Mar 2013 OP
This is insanity. Ilsa Mar 2013 #1
I wonder how many of them each one of those arseholes is willing to adopt, in case if mother dies idwiyo Mar 2013 #6
Nutcases, enough said. idwiyo Mar 2013 #2
Only it's not enough cali Mar 2013 #3
Oh' I do get it, trust me. I also give donations to Mary Stopes International and PP. idwiyo Mar 2013 #5
These are folks with serious trust-in-women issues duhneece Mar 2013 #4
Big mistake! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #7
I think it is a competition for right wing campaign dollars. McCamy Taylor Mar 2013 #8
And this is NOT what the Bible says duhneece Mar 2013 #9
Duplicate topic - locking OKNancy Mar 2013 #10

Ilsa

(64,368 posts)
1. This is insanity.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 07:42 AM
Mar 2013

And not allowing abortion for fetuses with serious genetic defects? I guess they want to pay for the Medicaid for those babies and children out of their own pockets? And their special education for 22 years? These people are out of touch with reality.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
6. I wonder how many of them each one of those arseholes is willing to adopt, in case if mother dies
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 07:57 AM
Mar 2013

during the childbirth. I am betting the number is zero, nada, nil.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
2. Nutcases, enough said.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 07:47 AM
Mar 2013
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. Only it's not enough
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 07:53 AM
Mar 2013

We have to fight these republican legislators in state after state and we have to have to, if we can, contribute to those organizations that help women who can't afford an abortion and who want to obtain one.

http://www.fundabortionnow.org/

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
5. Oh' I do get it, trust me. I also give donations to Mary Stopes International and PP.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 07:56 AM
Mar 2013

Will check your link too and if they accept donations from abroad they will go on my yearly donations list.

duhneece

(4,510 posts)
4. These are folks with serious trust-in-women issues
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 07:53 AM
Mar 2013

They obviously don't trust women to make reproductive decisions for their own bodies...sad for everyone. I hope women stand up and demand their rights.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
7. Big mistake!
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 07:59 AM
Mar 2013

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
8. I think it is a competition for right wing campaign dollars.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 08:12 AM
Mar 2013

Next, we will see a bill that retroactively criminalizes abortion back to the beginning of time.

duhneece

(4,510 posts)
9. And this is NOT what the Bible says
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 08:14 AM
Mar 2013

After God formed man in Genesis 2 (this should be a '7'...don't know why the post shows a smiley face?), He “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and it was then that the man became a living being”. Although the man was fully formed by God in all respects, he was not a living being until after taking his first breath.

In Job 33:4, it states: “The spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.”

Again, to quote Ezekiel 37:5&6, “Thus says the Lord God to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live. And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the Lord.”

In Exodus 21:22 it states that if a man causes a woman to have a miscarriage, he shall be fined; however, if the woman dies then he will be put to death. It should be apparent from this that the aborted fetus is not considered a living human being since the resulting punishment for the abortion is nothing more than a fine; it is not classified by the bible as a capital offense.

According to the bible, destroying a living fetus does not equate to killing a living human being even though the fetus has the potential of becoming a human being. One can not kill something that has not been born and taken a breath. This means that a stillborn would not be considered a human being either. Of course, every living sperm has the potential of becoming a human being although not one in a million will make it; the rest are aborted. .

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
10. Duplicate topic - locking
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 08:23 AM
Mar 2013

This is a duplicate topic of this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014432639
Feel free to attach this article to the previously posted thread.

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