Breaking: N. Korea Says to Enter "State of War" Against S. Korea - KCNA

[Hissyspit]

Source: Reuters

@Reuters: NORTH KOREA SAYS TO ENTER "STATE OF WAR" AGAINST SOUTH KOREA - KCNA #breaking

North Korea says to enter "state of war" against South Korea: KCNA

Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:13pm EDT

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea said on Saturday it was entering a "state of war" with South Korea in a continuing escalation of tough rhetoric against Seoul and Washington after coming under international sanctions for its nuclear test.

"From this time on, the North-South relations will be entering the state of war and all issues raised between the North and the South will be handled accordingly," a statement carried by the North's official KCNA news agency said.

The two Koreas have been in a technical state of war because their 1950-53 conflict ended under an armistice and not a peace treaty.

(Reporting by Sung-won Shim; editing by Jack Kim)

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92T00020130330

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N. Korea says it enters 'war' against S. Korea - Yonhap News Agency

SEOUL, March 29 (Yonhap) -- North Korea announced Saturday that it has entered a state of war against South Korea.

In a special statement, the North said it will deal with every inter-Korean issue in a wartime manner.
by anthony.derosa 8:03 PM

[OmahaBlueDog]

1. Link

http://www.breakingnews.com/item/ahZzfmJyZWFraW5nbmV3cy13d3ctaHJkcg0LEgRTZWVkGNev9Q0M/2013/03/29/n-korea-says-it-enters-war-against-s-korea-httpbitly16n3llc

ETA:

SEOUL, March 29 (Yonhap) -- North Korea announced Saturday that it has entered a state of war against South Korea.

In a special statement, the North said it will deal with every inter-Korean issue in a wartime manner.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2013/03/30/0200000000AEN20130330000500315.HTML

[Malik Agar]

2. Maybe he will finally do something

So far its been all talk no walk...

[AsahinaKimi]

31. You looking forward to some action?

I have family in GwangJu city, South Korea. SK won't be the only place, Japan is in danger also. I have family there as well.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

40. I really don't get the John Wayne-isms over this.

Nobody needs or wants a war.

[AsahinaKimi]

44. China especially.

If they have any influence over Kim Jong-un they should get him on the phone and tell him to calm the hell down.

[Marengo]

95. China seems to be experiencing a kind of NK fatigue...

They (the political body and populace) are heartily sick of the Kims and their antics. So far as I can determine from my friends and relatives in China, the primary reason China has bothered to involve itself after the Maoist era is to promote stability for it's own interests. They couldn't care less anymore about NKs "revolution". Floods of NK refugees into China and armies of potential rivals (SK, USA, etc.) on the NK/PRC border (after NKs inevitable defeat) are the primary concerns.

So much fatigue in fact, that some expressed a hope NK simply self-destructs if the consequences are limited to the above.

[Katashi_itto]

106. For China, it's like having that crazy Uncle that you keep locked up in the attic, except

that he has Nukes.

[L0oniX]

48. Time to buy some Lockheed Martin stocks. n/t

[Rebellious Republican]

90. Interesting pseudonym "Malik Agar".....

:http://www.google.com/search?q=Malik+Agar&aq=f&oq=Malik+Agar&aqs=chrome.0.57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8|

[UpInArms]

3. link and text

http://m.yna.co.kr/mob2/en/contents_en.jsp?cid=AEN20130330000500315&domain=3&ctype=A&site=0100000000&mobile

North Korea announced Saturday that it has entered a state of war against South Korea.

In a special statement, the North said it will deal with every inter-Korean issue in a wartime manner.

SEOUL, March 29 (Yonhap)
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[DrToast]

4. The war never ended

Not sure what he's talking about.

[savannah43]

11. Me, either.

He should have studied Political Science at some point before taking over the reins there in N.K. I guess it's too early to ask a 12-year-old to be versed in politics and the ways of the world. Oh, sorry. 12 is his mental age, not his chronological age. So, I wonder who's really driving the stage-coach over there? Anyway, bring it sawed-off!

[PolitFreak]

85. He's talking about his attention-whoring

Just like dear ol' dad!

[louis-t]

96. I wondered who would be the first to remember this.

Technically, NK is stil at war with SK. Nothing new here.

[bananas]

5. Yonhap: N. Korea says it enters 'war' against S. Korea

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2013/03/30/0200000000AEN20130330000500315.HTML

2013/03/30 08:15 KST

N. Korea says it enters 'war' against S. Korea

SEOUL, March 29 (Yonhap) -- North Korea announced Saturday that it has entered a state of war against South Korea.

In a special statement, the North said it will deal with every inter-Korean issue in a wartime manner.

[TwilightGardener]

6. That was pretty much when they canceled the armistice. Now we'll see if

they decide to end the cease-fire. They're lunatics.

[Posteritatis]

77. Though this is the seventh time they've cancelled the armistice since '53, I believe. (nt)

[TwilightGardener]

78. Yes, I saw on here or somewhere that they've done it before.

[Posteritatis]

79. Yeah. Not to minimize the latest rhetoric, of course

Just that a lot of this has come and gone in the past. Nobody's said anything about tangible actions like troop movements or missile fuelling, fortunately.

[sabbat hunter]

102. ummm

an armistice is a cease fire. until one side or the other starts firing again, it is still in effect.

[TwilightGardener]

103. Well, I meant, fire the first shot.

[bananas]

7. Reuters: N.Korea says to enter "state of war" against South Korea - KCNA

http://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/nkorea-says-to-enter-state-of-war-against-south-korea-kcna

N.Korea says to enter "state of war" against South Korea - KCNA

Sat, 30 Mar 2013 00:09 GMT

Source: reuters // Reuters

SEOUL, March 30 (Reuters) - North Korea said on Saturday it was entering a "state of war" with South Korea in a continuing escalation of tough rhetoric against Seoul and Washington after coming under international sanctions for its nuclear test.

"From this time on, the North-South relations will be entering the state of war and all issues raised between the North and the South will be handled accordingly," a statement carried by the North's official KCNA news agency said.

The two Koreas have been in a technical state of war because their 1950-53 conflict ended under an armistice and not a peace treaty. (Reporting by Sung-won Shim; editing by Jack Kim)

[chuckstevens]

8. This is beside the point..but

It has been driving me nuts as to who Kim Jong Un looks like. Then it hit me; he looks exactly like Bolbi Stroganovsky from Jimmy Neutron. I'm not very computer savvy, but I wish I could put them side by side. Separated at Birth!

[Sheldon Cooper]

14. The resemblance:

[octothorpe]

57. lol, I see it.

[Faygo Kid]

9. NBC just picked it up. This isn't to be taken for granted anymore.

This is beyond the usual bluster, and could result in cataclysm. If they are playing a game, it's a dangerous one.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/29/17513218-north-korea-puts-rockets-on-standby-as-us-official-warns-regime-is-no-paper-tiger?lite

[AverageJoe90]

13. I don't know about 'cataclysm', per se.....

But I think the Korean Peninsula could be in very big trouble if Kim-Jong-Un really does decide to invade......

[Marrah_G]

16. I worry about our troops there :(

[AverageJoe90]

19. Me too. Why do we still have them over there, anyway?

Russia hasn't had the capability to seriously hurt us conventionally since the late '80s, and the Cold War's been over for 20 years now....now it's just North Korea, and a China which may not even want to side with an increasingly nutty Pyongyang.

[jeff47]

23. Because we agreed to help the UN defend South Korea.

And that war isn't over.

[cstanleytech]

24. Lot of reasons one is because N Korea hasnt exactly behaved in a peaceful manner

and one of the others is because there is alot of shipping that travels through that region via sea so having a military presence there makes sense from that aspect as well.

[Marrah_G]

27. We have a mutual defense treaty with them

Technically the war never ended. There was an armistice ( a truce) that ended the fighting. I believe we are there to make NK think twice about invading the south.

We also have a security treaty with Japan that requires us to defend her.

Not saying I completely agree with these, but you were asking why.

[Renew Deal]

34. This exact reason is why they're there

To keep the North Koreans away.

[Left Coast2020]

69. I lean toward analysis I heard on MSNBC a week ago..

..This kid is simply talking tough to get some attention. Yes, he could give green light to pull trigger, but this kid (and he a kid) is acting like most bullies do. First he says he will attack U.S. Now he says S.K. I suspect this is hot-air.

However, If he does pull trigger, He'll be wiped out very quickly. End of story. Lets hope this is just "bully-speak" and not war.

[xtraxritical]

58. It will affect the whole world indirectly. A war will cause the price of oil to sky rocket and

then follows inflation in everything else we need and use, except social security and the minimum wage of course.

[AverageJoe90]

59. A war in Iran, maybe. But why North Korea? n/t

[octothorpe]

62. Maybe increased consumption by the military?

[Hekate]

22. This is not good. Not good at all.

That little turd has been talking like a street thug trying to make his bones so he can get in good with the Godfather. He must have grown up on a steady diet of his old man's overblown rhetoric and must have thought his father was mistaken for not following through, so he's decided to rectify matters. Or something.

Anyhow, most small-country dictators have enough restraint and knowledge of history to hold back from attacking the US directly. I'm beginning to think he might actually do something even more stupid than send troops across the DMZ -- like lob some of his nukes at Tokyo or Honolulu.

[Gore1FL]

36. I don't think he has any power. I doubt his dad did really, either.

The grandfather probably really held the reigns. After that they seem more and more as figureheads in front of a a few elite "advisers." That's my take.

[Marrah_G]

104. You should check out some documentaries on NK

They do indeed have power. The people of NK grow up worshipping them as gods. Anything less then worshipful behavior is treated as treason and a person's entire family is sent to concentration camps for life. The people live in a constant state of fear, malnutrition, starvation and blind worship.

It's frightening to see.

I suggest Lisa Lings (sp?) undercover documentary where she went in as part of an charity eye surgeons team.

People there cannot even grasp the concept of their leader being mistaken about anything. That is how far down the rabbit hole they have gone and is exactly why South Korea is so nervous.

[Gore1FL]

105. Power of personality, yes

But the decision making power does not rest with them. They are heighten to god-like levels and the decisions are made to appear to come from them, but the last in the family to actually call the shots was the grandfather.

[Marrah_G]

107. What do you base that on?

Nothing that I have read or seen has led me towards that conclusion.

[Gore1FL]

108. Observation.

Neither the son or grandson has the wits to run a country. I came to the same conclusions here with George W. Bush.

Others have done the same when it comes to N. Korea:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/north-koreas-real-power-kim-jong-uns-aunt/story?id=18854045#.UVmrj1fGDAk

http://www.smh.com.au/world/great-successor-is-likely-to-be-just-a-figurehead-for-now-20111219-1p2ks.html

[Marrah_G]

109. Thank you for the links!

[AngryOldDem]

89. I think this is one of the most dangerous situations we've been in since WWII.

Or, at least the start of the Cold War, if we're being truly honest here.

This kid is obviously batshit crazy, which is why I don't think the world can just assume that most of what he's saying is bluster. We really can't get a true read on him, or call his bluff, like JFK did with Khruschev, for instance, because we really don't know who we're dealing with. We would like to believe, based on past history of other such dictators, that he will back down when the reality of the situation hits, but this guy is working in an alternate reality.

He's been fed on this bullshit since birth. This perverse worldview is all he knows, so I can't dismiss these threats out of hand.

[GreenStormCloud]

99. He was educated in Switzerland.

He should have a realistic knowledge of the World.

[AngryOldDem]

100. Doesn't mean he's operating in reality. n/t

[GreenStormCloud]

101. True.

It only means that he has been exposed to reality.

[Stuart G]

10. I am not sure ...this doesn't look good to me..

This idiot's noise is much louder than in the past. We will see...

[amandabeech]

28. The noise hasn't been this loud in a long, long time.

It would seem that the littlest Kim and his regime haven't settled down.

I'd hate to see Korea blow up--so many lives would be lost.

[Comrade_McKenzie]

12. Uh oh.

Nathan J Hunt ?@ISNJH 20m

With report that DPRK has stated they have gone into state of war against ROK, any detection of missiles being fueled could force a response

[longship]

18. Unfortunately, NK missiles could more easily hit Pyongyang than Soeul.

The DPRK does not have a very good track record with their missiles.

But I agree, fueling missiles would be an extreme provocation. I feel very badly for the Koreans, both North and South. Kim Jong Un is a madman.

[PearliePoo2]

30. Oh fuck...

If we detected missles being fueled, what is the response likely to be?

[bigworld]

35. It's the artillery you have to worry about, not the missles

Ther DPRK has a ton of artillery. And Seoul is within firing range of that.

[davidpdx]

42. +1

You are right that would be the biggest threat.

[charlie and algernon]

15. I would think that if this were gonna happen, it'll happen on Easter Sunday

That way they try to catch as many people home with their families for the holiday as they can when they attack.

[Mz Pip]

17. Kim Jong Un is a dangerous punk

He really is itching to play with all of his toys and seems more than willing to provoke an incident in order to do

He has an overblown sense of his importance and his power. If he pushes a confrontation this will not end well for him.

[underpants]

20. The two most obvious explanations are:

1. the military either doesn't want the kid to look weak or they are taking advantage of his weakness
2. they have or are expecting internal strife and want something to either corral national spirit towards something else OR explain the massive death toll

[olddots]

21. Has CNN come up with graphics and a name yet ?

The constant war in the world rages on =humans are the stupidest animals.

[Mz Pip]

25. A soundtrack is needed also

Lots of drums and some synthesized French Horns should do the trick.

[lastlib]

68. They're still saying the 1953 talks are too close to call.............

[Douglas Carpenter]

26. people must remember how close Seoul is to the northern boarder and 2 million NK troops and vast

amounts of North Korean artillery and short range missiles. Even though this is rather basic World War II equipment - even without going nuclear they can easily lay waist to northern Seoul within minutes - killing at last hundreds of thousands of South Koreans. If the North Korean regime is defeated and overthrown - millions of refugees will poor into the South devastating their entire economy. Even a clear military victory over the North and the destruction of their crazy regime will come at the cost of destroying South Korea as a viable economy and at the cost of a minimum of hundreds of thousands - if not millions of lives. I hope and pray this is just more crazy saber rattling.

[Turbineguy]

29. Yeah, those mean South Koreans

want to steal the north's poverty and starvation.

[AsahinaKimi]

32. I have heard it said that CHINA

Has some influence over North Korea. They best do something about this..

[davidpdx]

46. China does have influence over North Korea

But they have done very little. Personally I think they are as much to blame for this whole thing as the North Koreans themselves. I have my doubts about whether China would step in and stop North Korea if they launched an attack.

[Phlem]

63. And what happens

if they did launch an attack, Would China then step in to defend them? If that's the case then good night everybody.

-p

[sweetloukillbot]

70. Wasn't China involved in drafting the sanctions that sparked the whole thing? n/t

[davidpdx]

73. They did have a hand in it as they are on the UNSC

and agreed to it. The word from inside China is both the government and the people are getting sick of North Korea. However, that could change if the Chinese leadership decided to suddenly make it a nationalism issue.

[davidpdx]

75. I'm not so sure they would

It is a valid question though. There is no real answer. The Chinese Government and people are getting sick of North Korea's continued shit and also having to support them. If the North attacked South Korea (and this is the only scenario I'm talking about) then I think China has some contingency plan as to what they would do. Again, who knows. I do know the US has a contingency plan for the collapse of North Korea.

[MynameisBlarney]

67. I think perhaps China IS doing something about this.

And it may not be to our liking.
War by proxy.
It's not a bad strategic move actually, we're stretched thin and war weary, economy on the brink.
All we need is a slight push.
And they can get NK revved up to strike and then it would be a shit storm of global proportions.

I sincerely hope I am wrong though.

[Posteritatis]

72. Influence and control are not synonymous. (nt)

[davidpdx]

81. No, but they can cut off oil and food

Much of which comes from China. There are things China could do, but chooses not to. They choose to support North Korea by continuing to provide support.

[Posteritatis]

83. And cutting those of would somehow turn the NK government into pacifists?

The world's not nearly that simplistic.

[davidpdx]

84. I didn't say that

But if they were cut off, it sure would make it more difficult for them to start a war. As it is most of the people in North Korea are malnourished from the lack of food (I have seen South Korean soldiers close up at the DMZ, unfortunately on that day none of the North Korean soldiers were down at the UN buildings where we were). Look at the difference in height between the North Korean and South Korean soldiers. I read somewhere that a majority of their oil comes from China. Food and oil/gas would be the most important things North Korea would need. Cutting them off won't pacify them, but it sure would handicap them.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

33. The important question is what stance China takes & how they support or restrain NK. nt

[davidpdx]

52. I wouldn't put any faith in the Chinese doing anything more than scratching their asses

in terms of restraint. In terms of support, if NK attacked first and China backed them it would pretty much end up being a war between China and the US. I don't see China doing that either. Most of the rest of the world would back South Korea and the US (with the obvious exceptions of Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Syria, and a few others who will side with China)

[applegrove]

37. Kim Jong Un has never lived in a free Korea. He doesn't know war. He doesn't know the reality of

living in an interconnected world.

[ZRT2209]

50. Is he U.S. educated?

[applegrove]

65. Nope. I looked him up on Wikipedia. Some question as to whether he studied in Switzerland.

[NBachers]

38. Yes, big communications have to be going on with China to see what their plans are

It wouldn't take much for a tsunami of refugees to flood into China, either.

[Javaman]

39. Now I worry about the accidental shot heard round the world.

all things need a match. I fear that.

[Trillo]

41. Better not cut the Pentagon budget, it is

time for yet another war?

[L0oniX]

47. Well if we're going to cut grannies SS for war we might as well send her there to fight too. n/t

[onehandle]

43. The end is nigh.

For Korea, anyway.

The North is ruled by a mad family bloodline.

The South is run by the daughter of a dictator.

And we are run by a right-wing, gun loving racist 10% or less.


The end is nigh?

[L0oniX]

45. "We're already launching invisible missiles" n/t

[ZRT2209]

49. Is this because of Rodman?

[Cali_Democrat]

88. Who knows.

Maybe the first worldwide nuclear holocaust could be started because of Dennis Rodman.

[ZRT2209]

51. if NK acted, China would dump then and they'd be completely F'd

[caseymoz]

53. Hasn't the 2000 millennium sucked enough?

Just when you're tempted to ask, "How it could get worse."

Oh, that's how. Serious threat of nuclear war.

[davidpdx]

54. I live in South Korea, and I don't see any threat at this point

North Korea can claim they are entering war all they want, but until they open fire nothing has changed. There are no air raid drills being done (which they have done in the past). Nothing has come from the US Embassy in Seoul that leads me to believe we are in danger.

So far it's all talk on the North Koreans part.

They would have to be suicidal to carry out their dastardly little plan.

[Marksman_91]

55. That's a relief... I guess...

I don't think NK would be crazy enough to openly attack anyone. Nobody would back them up in this: openly declaring war on a nation without provocation pretty much guarantees total lack of support.

I think this is all just a distraction, a smokescreen to divert attention from NK's internal problems, and they're trying to consolidate Kim Jong Un's power by making these big threats against SK and the US.

[davidpdx]

56. And if it ever did get that bad, I'd post something

before I got the hell out of dodge with my wife and the cats in the car. The only problem is the freeways would be a parking lot.

[Hissyspit]

60. @BreakingNews: US officials: Nation takes North Korea's 'state of war' announcement seriously, stand

@BreakingNews: US officials: Nation takes North Korea's 'state of war' announcement seriously, stands by South Korea - @RT_com http://t.co/gkkg454caM

[davidpdx]

82. I have no doubt they would

They are going to put troops and any equipment needed on standby. I'm sure all the bases here are on high alert and security is tight.

[Phlem]

64. I hope your right and

if that's the case, someone needs to take the boy king out behind the barn and break a 2x4 across his whiny little ass.

-p

[davidpdx]

80. I was talking about this with my grandfather a few years ago

He is a physicist and knows a little something about nuclear technology (I can't say much more than that). This was the week in August 2009 when the two journalists were released by North Korea and we happened to be watching the news while I was visiting. I told him at the time my hope was that whichever son took over would kill his uncle as well as take out the military leaders and start reforms. My grandfather said, "yes, that would be good". I was dead wrong of course, but I really did hope the younger generation would bring moderation.

[Hekate]

76. That's a lot better. Thanks for the eyewitness report, so to speak. nt

[Nanjing to Seoul]

87. i lived in South Korea. I didn't either. alot of hubris and hot air. . .

however, you can never judge a psychotic regime like NK. They might realize the gravy train is ending and try to go out with a bang.

If they do, expect missiles to fly at Seoul, Daejeon and Tokyo.

[davidpdx]

91. No, they want to hit Austin Texas

Which is so funny. I think they think W. lives there.

[obxhead]

61. Baby boy needs to flex some muscles.

We get to "justify" trillions in additional military spending.

[DeSwiss]

66. K&R

[TroubleMan]

71. This spoiled brat just wants some attention. The world should just ignore him.

Reacting to him is giving him exactly what he wants. It makes him feel important.

[pediatricmedic]

74. He just wants to go to Disneyland

[OKNancy]

86. +1

That's how I think of him... a spoiled brat.

[PolitFreak]

92. At this point, North Korea is an annoying mosquito

Let's swat it. Now. Before it can become anything more. Forget Iran and Syria: This is the country we need to deal with.

[hedgehog]

93. shit

[jsr]

94. The nut doesn't fall far from the tree

[davidpdx]

97. Someone needs to Photoshop an Almond Joy in his hand

With the caption, "Sometimes you feel like a nut..."

[NuttyFluffers]

98. "waah, internal power struggle... respect me, world!"

lived in South Korea. by now all my friends are chillaxing, ignoring this as doomsday rhetoric as usual. starting at brinksmanship and working backwards from there is sort of the bog standard historical form of Korean diplomacy.

yappy little dog is still just a yappy little dog.

[Odin2005]

110. We have a spoiled man-child in control of nukes.

[Hissyspit]

111. George W. Bush isn't President anymore.

Oh, sorry, I thought...

[Odin2005]

112. LOL!