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Arkansas-residents-evecuate as- exon-mobile tar sands pipeline ruptures. (Original Post) busterbrown Mar 2013 OP
Gee, what a big surprise... CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #1
Can anyone post some updates on situation?? I’ve been having trouble finding any... busterbrown Mar 2013 #30
Here is the update I posted in GD Cannikin Mar 2013 #32
Arkansas. Where Secretary of State Clinton was First Lady. merrily Mar 2013 #2
Your point? Trajan Mar 2013 #3
Just a throwaway remark on a coincidence that struck me. No big deal. merrily Mar 2013 #5
Oh!! El Shaman Mar 2013 #22
? How does that relate to Arkansas? merrily Mar 2013 #25
chinese pipe...... madrchsod Mar 2013 #4
Can't be! The industry assures me that pipelines are totally safe, and and and coal is the new clean mbperrin Mar 2013 #6
we have been koched. BlueToTheBone Mar 2013 #7
MAYBE incidents like this will help the people wake up elleng Mar 2013 #9
just like the BP blowout stopped deepwater drilling in the Gulf wordpix Apr 2013 #53
My question is this: silvershadow Mar 2013 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author moondust Mar 2013 #10
The way I understand it: most of the pipeline is already built. louis-t Mar 2013 #24
Here is the graphic they are showing us Cannikin Mar 2013 #33
We have the technology, but not the expertise. WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2013 #11
"Well, at least we didn't cause a freaking Fracking earthquake. Sneer." - Tar Sandys (R) Berlum Mar 2013 #12
The CBs affiliate didnt mention Gin Mar 2013 #13
jeeeezuz, I bet their insurance company will onethatcares Mar 2013 #15
Oil Flood Rider unlikely in place. Paulie Mar 2013 #38
move along, maindawg Mar 2013 #14
Yup. Exxon spokesgeek: "Its not as major a problem as we thought". Left Coast2020 Mar 2013 #26
This is completely unrelated to Keystone XL Doctor_J Mar 2013 #39
Deleted Seeking Serenity Mar 2013 #16
Oh shit, I thought this was a hoax. This ain't no hoax. Watching the video gushing down the... Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #17
Well, well, well, UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #18
We've been through that up here in Michigan. knitter4democracy Mar 2013 #19
Tar Sands project is so disturbing felix_numinous Mar 2013 #20
These kind of pipeline leaks happen all over the place. timdog44 Mar 2013 #21
Oh Not to Worry! cynzke Mar 2013 #23
This pisses me off that we're protesting this f'ing thing in DC Left Coast2020 Mar 2013 #27
Nothing new locks Mar 2013 #28
Aren't the tar sands pipes pressurized to around 1400 psi? Champion Jack Mar 2013 #29
Thank you for editing the title. It would be a shame to be locked for that. Thanks. uppityperson Mar 2013 #31
looked at there voting records Livluvgrow Mar 2013 #34
From today's paper - the fear was that the oil would run into Lake Conway Hestia Mar 2013 #35
I feel the same about the 7,000 people who might have been infected with HIV or Hepatitis busterbrown Mar 2013 #36
And what evidence do you have that they didn't know what deregulation meant? winter is coming Mar 2013 #40
You seem very wise and intuitive... You’ve got my number, don’t you buddy? busterbrown Mar 2013 #41
Next time you go shopping, try buying a narrow brush. winter is coming Mar 2013 #42
Wonderful analogy .....Brushes, painting and stuff. busterbrown Apr 2013 #43
"Dead red" Arkansas elected Clinton as its governor. winter is coming Apr 2013 #46
I guess i have a few character defects, however I’m o.k.with them. Am I really suppose to feel bad busterbrown Apr 2013 #49
You're welcome to feel that way if it floats your boat, but I'm not into collective blaming. winter is coming Apr 2013 #51
Nice chatting with you.. We’re on the same side and although my anger towards all this busterbrown Apr 2013 #52
Unless we live in red states. Jamastiene Apr 2013 #55
Photo from Mayflower, AR PipelineSpill tincanguy Mar 2013 #37
not to worry, onethatcares Apr 2013 #44
From that pic, it looks like there might be oil in the house. If not, it's damned close. winter is coming Apr 2013 #48
there goes the water supply, the house, the garden, the trees... wordpix Apr 2013 #54
posted on my FB page now, thanks for photo wordpix Apr 2013 #56
I hate to say this because it is awful for that community davidpdx Apr 2013 #45
Oh, I figure Limbaugh will be accusing ecoterrorists of sabotage by lunchtime. n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #47
This is the fault of Al Gore!! Doctor_J Apr 2013 #50
but Exxon-M learned so much from the Alaska spill, it is now the "responsible" oil corps wordpix Apr 2013 #57

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
6. Can't be! The industry assures me that pipelines are totally safe, and and and coal is the new clean
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:30 PM
Mar 2013

and energy independence and 'Murika and stuff!


Pipelines rupture daily. The precaution against it? None. The system in place called "pipeline inspection" is a small plane flying around looking for pools of petro-products.

Wind. Solar. End of story.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
7. we have been koched.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:34 PM
Mar 2013

These bastards have taken over the state. They have a new bill they're trying to push through to strip the courts of their duties and take them for themselves. SJR5 is the bill title

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
53. just like the BP blowout stopped deepwater drilling in the Gulf
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 07:57 AM
Apr 2013

call me a skeptic but the anti-environmentalist asshats are the richies who run the country

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
8. My question is this:
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:43 PM
Mar 2013

I thought the tar sands pipeline(s) were still in debate. How is it they have made it all the way to Arkansas already with not only the pipeline, but also the oil? There must be something I am missing.

Response to silvershadow (Reply #8)

louis-t

(23,199 posts)
24. The way I understand it: most of the pipeline is already built.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:16 PM
Mar 2013

It's only the connector that is being debated. I could be wrong. I don't know how they have tar sands in Arkansas.

Cannikin

(8,359 posts)
33. Here is the graphic they are showing us
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 07:36 PM
Mar 2013

on local news. It's the green Pegasus pipeline.

It brings tar sands oil from Canada to the gulf coast.

Gin

(7,212 posts)
13. The CBs affiliate didnt mention
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:35 PM
Mar 2013

Tar sands oil....just oil......if its tar sands that project is almost finished if its in Arkansas why the fights in congress?


From the story...

A Hazmat team from the Office of Emergency Management is on site. They said that a lot of residual oil flowed down Starlight Road - one of two main streets in the subdivision.

One home on Starlight was completely surrounded by crude oil, according to the Arkansas Department of Environmental Quality. Around 20 homes have been affected by this spill but, as of Friday evening, the oil posed no risk to residents.


Glad no risks.....sure.......just a ruined house.....happy easter folks.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
26. Yup. Exxon spokesgeek: "Its not as major a problem as we thought".
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:21 PM
Mar 2013

Actual damage is realized in about a week or so.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
17. Oh shit, I thought this was a hoax. This ain't no hoax. Watching the video gushing down the...
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 04:40 PM
Mar 2013

...street now.



PB

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
19. We've been through that up here in Michigan.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 04:44 PM
Mar 2013

That cleanup is going to take years. Ours is, and most of ours went into the Kalamazoo River.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
20. Tar Sands project is so disturbing
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 04:55 PM
Mar 2013

Our resources are being pillaged and Americans will not see one red cent of the profits. I am convinced that this is why they work so hard to divide us--to create distractions while our lands are ruined.

Who knew Tar Sands was already in Arkansas?

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
21. These kind of pipeline leaks happen all over the place.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:05 PM
Mar 2013

We need to end our reliance on oil. It feels so inadequate to say that, but we need to.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
27. This pisses me off that we're protesting this f'ing thing in DC
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:26 PM
Mar 2013

Then out of nowhere heres the f'ing thing already f'ing up the environment. Obama should just say "no f'ing way now. "You guys blew it."

locks

(2,012 posts)
28. Nothing new
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:29 PM
Mar 2013

It's heavy crude from Canada called dilbit, on its way to TX refineries and harder to clean up from water than any other. My Senator Bennett voted last week to approve the Keystone pipeline; he got slammed and sent me a long letter that nothing had been completely decided. I just wrote him that he might want to visit Mayflower ARK and the many other recent spills before he votes again.

Champion Jack

(5,378 posts)
29. Aren't the tar sands pipes pressurized to around 1400 psi?
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:38 PM
Mar 2013

I thought they had to do that in order to move the dirt/sand/oil mixture.
Didn't Arkansas just ram through some kind of eminent domain bullshit for big oil?

uppityperson

(115,674 posts)
31. Thank you for editing the title. It would be a shame to be locked for that. Thanks.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 06:12 PM
Mar 2013

Please edit the OP so title matches the link and it fits LBN standards. Thank you. Here...
"Arkansas residents evacuate as Exxon-Mobil tar sands pipeline ruptures"

Livluvgrow

(377 posts)
34. looked at there voting records
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 08:39 PM
Mar 2013

and go figure about two thirds of the area is republican. I am sad for the environment, but don't have one iota of sadness for those jerks. Let them swim in their oil. Maybe their Romney Ryan signs could be used to clean up their oily mess. I apologize to the good responsible folk for these feelings, but it is time that those ignorant fools that support this stuff see up close and personal what problems their idiotic policies can cause.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
35. From today's paper - the fear was that the oil would run into Lake Conway
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:35 PM
Mar 2013

but they did stop it with sand dykes. The paper didn't say where the oil comes from just that the pipe burst and they did get it shut down. How would you like to have a freaking oil pipeline running through your 'hood? If I were those people I'd be pissed and demand that they buy my house at fair market value and move. Huge surprise here to hear about this.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
36. I feel the same about the 7,000 people who might have been infected with HIV or Hepatitis
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:49 PM
Mar 2013

by a Dentist using unclean medical equipment... I feel bad for them, but its time they wake up as well and realize what deregulation really means!!!

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
40. And what evidence do you have that they didn't know what deregulation meant?
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 07:40 PM
Mar 2013

When you find it necessary to couple an "it's time they wake up" remark with "I feel bad for them", you don't really feel bad for them.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
41. You seem very wise and intuitive... You’ve got my number, don’t you buddy?
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:34 PM
Mar 2013

Well hear this.. People who live in the Red South see govt. as nothing but evil.
They hate any kind of regulation and this is exactly what this kind of thinking gets them.

I’ll be explicit....Those who might have been infected with something I will feel bad for. But all the others might think twice the next time they see a guy roaming through a restaurant, or Md”s office or a grocery store with a govt badge on, because that he might be there on their behalf.

And finally to you I say. It seems you have a real soft place in your heart for the Yellow Rose Of Texas...

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
42. Next time you go shopping, try buying a narrow brush.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:50 PM
Mar 2013

They require more thought and effort to use, but yield better results.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
43. Wonderful analogy .....Brushes, painting and stuff.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 01:09 AM
Apr 2013

Last edited Mon Apr 1, 2013, 02:20 AM - Edit history (1)

Very clever....But to another point...

Perhaps you should begin a post entitled.. “Just because we’re dead red, how dare you generalize”..
See how well you do....

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
46. "Dead red" Arkansas elected Clinton as its governor.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:30 AM
Apr 2013

And the last time I checked, disregarding the misfortune of others because they don't live in the right place was a Republican tendency, not a Democratic one.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
49. I guess i have a few character defects, however I’m o.k.with them. Am I really suppose to feel bad
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 09:40 AM
Apr 2013

for those in red states who are o.k. seeing their own environment torn apart and then feel bad for them when it comes back and gets them in their collective asses. These same people who wouldn’t offer a dime of help for the victims of Sandy and then scream for not getting enough help for their own tragedies ?
These same people who have installed state govt, officials who disrespect our president with racist taunts,
who hate the poor, who despise minorities, want teachers to carry guns in school; Deprive people of the
same sex of getting married.. Closing down woman heath clinics......Yea I feel sorry for those who are poor
and can’t leave the state, but the 75% of the people who are proud to be from that state can rot in hell!!!

Yea its come down to that... Finally, Those deep red states who are defiant concerning accepting Medicare
dollars from entering their states which can help those in desperate need of medical help.. These people deserve little sympathy if they too become devastated due to medical bills.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
51. You're welcome to feel that way if it floats your boat, but I'm not into collective blaming.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 02:26 PM
Apr 2013

Yes, a lot of people suffer when state governments refuse Federal dollars on ideological grounds, but many (perhaps most) of those who suffer aren't the ones who elected the yahoos making the decisions. That's why ALEC has been pushing so hard on legislation to further disenfranchise poor and minority voters.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
52. Nice chatting with you.. We’re on the same side and although my anger towards all this
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:31 AM
Apr 2013

gets the best of me sometimes, in the long run I’m always on the side of those who need help..

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
55. Unless we live in red states.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:36 AM
Apr 2013

In that case, we deserve the worst that can possibly happen, because we live in a state where the majority are assholes who vote for Republicans. Got it!

tincanguy

(7 posts)
37. Photo from Mayflower, AR PipelineSpill
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 06:37 PM
Mar 2013

The following was shared on my Facebook page.

Folks, this is a backyard picture of the Mayflower, AR oil spill on that Exxon pipeline. The local authorities have denied the press access to these areas so few have actually seen the extent of the spill. This picture was taken by a friend's daughter who lives next door to this house. Share this widely


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200923087946257&set=o.246310432083819&type=1&ref=nf

onethatcares

(16,133 posts)
44. not to worry,
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 06:04 AM
Apr 2013

the exxon spokesperson, Gary Pruessing (?) said they will maybe work with folks to make things kinda right. What a great company, huh?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
48. From that pic, it looks like there might be oil in the house. If not, it's damned close.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:35 AM
Apr 2013

Look at the A/C unit... you can't see the base of it.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
54. there goes the water supply, the house, the garden, the trees...
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:04 AM
Apr 2013

The officials who want this pipeline so badly will sit there and wonder what to do, then say it's not so bad, then lobby for more pipelines, then give politicians legal bribes to stay in/run for/get into office...

Neverending cycle of oil-runs-the-nation

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
45. I hate to say this because it is awful for that community
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 06:16 AM
Apr 2013

But something like this might help stop the Keystone Pipeline and finally convince people it's not safe.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
57. but Exxon-M learned so much from the Alaska spill, it is now the "responsible" oil corps
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:40 AM
Apr 2013
that's their PR anyway
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