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Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:42 PM

 

So that's what Assange has been doing inside the embassy! WikiLeaks releases 1.7m US diplomatic and

Source: dailymail.co.uk

So that's what Assange has been doing inside the embassy! WikiLeaks releases 1.7m US diplomatic and intelligence reports covering every country in the world

Whistleblowing website WikiLeaks today published more than 1.7million U.S. records covering diplomatic or intelligence reports on every country in the world.

The data released today includes more than 1.7million U.S. diplomatic records from 1973 to 1976 - covering a traffic of cables, intelligence reports and congressional correspondence.

WikiLeaks described the Public Library of US Diplomacy (PlusD) as the world's largest searchable collection of U.S. confidential, or formerly confidential, diplomatic communications.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305437/Julian-Assange-WikiLeaks-release-1-7m-US-diplomatic-intelligence-reports.html



Public Library of US Diplomacy (PlusD)
http://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/

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Reply So that's what Assange has been doing inside the embassy! WikiLeaks releases 1.7m US diplomatic and (Original post)
Paul E Ester Apr 2013 OP
OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #1
DeSwiss Apr 2013 #11
hughee99 Apr 2013 #29
DeSwiss Apr 2013 #33
LiberalLovinLug Apr 2013 #22
Socal31 Apr 2013 #2
Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #5
Hissyspit Apr 2013 #7
SkyDaddy7 Apr 2013 #15
Ash_F Apr 2013 #3
cstanleytech Apr 2013 #16
Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #4
Ash_F Apr 2013 #6
Fuddnik Apr 2013 #9
Ash_F Apr 2013 #10
Fuddnik Apr 2013 #8
DeSwiss Apr 2013 #12
Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #13
dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #14
struggle4progress Apr 2013 #17
treestar Apr 2013 #18
struggle4progress Apr 2013 #19
randome Apr 2013 #20
struggle4progress Apr 2013 #21
leveymg Apr 2013 #24
struggle4progress Apr 2013 #27
leveymg Apr 2013 #34
treestar Apr 2013 #25
leveymg Apr 2013 #26
struggle4progress Apr 2013 #28
leveymg Apr 2013 #30
struggle4progress Apr 2013 #31
Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #23
LanternWaste Apr 2013 #32

Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:50 PM

1. A member of the Assange Defamation Squad

 

will be along shortly to tell us that the Ecuadorians want Assange to leave because he raids the fridge and leaves the toilet seat up.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:41 AM

11. Leaves the toilet seat up!?!?

 

- Sexist!

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 06:00 PM

29. As opposed to the benevolent sexism of putting the seat down?

Women are more than capable of doing that for themselves and don't need a man's assistance.

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #29)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:37 PM

33. No.

 

As opposed to just doing it because it's the right thing to do. At least that's how my mother taught me and she was definitely one exceptional women.

- Thank you for your eisegesis.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:01 PM

22. LOL...You are so right OnyxCollie

The Three Amigos, they're here, just scroll down starting with #17.

Stumbling over themselves to try and see who can discredit Wikileaks in the most asinine way.
They can't make up their minds if Wikileaks is a dangerous organization revealing information that is just too sensitive for the fragile eyes of the public and best left to the authorities, or if they are laughable and their releases are redundant and useless.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:50 PM

2. Misleading headline according to this paragraph buried in the article:

"The collection published today has not been leaked, but Mr Assange said WikiLeaks had been working for the past year to analyse and assess a vast amount of data held at the U.S. national archives before releasing it in a searchable form.

Mr Assange said WikiLeaks had developed sophisticated technical systems to deal with ‘complex and voluminous’ data.

Top secret documents were not available, while some others were lost or irreversibly corrupted for periods including December 1975 and March and June 1976, said Mr Assange"


Wikidatacondensing just doesn't have the same ring to it.

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Response to Socal31 (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:56 PM

5. Good catch, wikicollated...nt

 

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Response to Socal31 (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:02 AM

7. It's a terrible headline because it's Daily Mail. nt

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Response to Socal31 (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 08:05 AM

15. "Wikidatacondensing"

rofl: :

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:51 PM

3. 40 years and still some of the docs are classified.

Gotta make sure the criminals are all good and dead before they see justice.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 08:14 AM

16. Actually I wouldnt hesitate to bet that some of it was classified to protect sources as well as

the family of sources of which some could very well still be alive and if they end up murdered because of wikileaks leaking that info about them wouldnt that make Assage an accessory to murder?

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:52 PM

4. Couple canned searches to play with.

 

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Response to Paul E Ester (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:00 AM

6. Wow, that database is very sophisticated

Wikileaks provides Americans a service their government should have done in the first place.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:12 AM

9. The New Privatization!

Or Pirateization.



I hate it when you invent a new word, and spell check wants to tell you how to spell it.

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:14 AM

10. Really, you would think the Rightwingers would sing this thing's praises. /nt

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:10 AM

8. Awww. shit!

Now they'll have to delay the invasion of Iran, and do Ecuador instead.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:45 AM

12. K&R

 

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:51 AM

13. 3 years covering the fall of Nixon and Ford,...sounds like a party.

 

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 04:05 AM

14. BBC News - Wikileaks publishes 1.7m US diplomatic records

Wikileaks has published more than 1.7 million US diplomatic and intelligence reports from the 1970s.

The website's founder, Julian Assange, said the documents revealed the "vast range and scope" of US activity around the world.

The collection covers the period when Henry Kissinger was US Secretary of State and National Security Adviser.

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The latest collection, entitled the Public Library of US Diplomacy (PlusD), comprises diplomatic cables, intelligence reports and congressional correspondence running from the beginning of 1973 to the end of 1976.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22062317

The Public Library of US Diplomacy (PlusD) linik here : https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/?q=&qtfrom=1972-01-01&qtto=1972-12-31

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:45 AM

17. It seems to be information that's already available to everyone:

... The data, which has not been leaked, comprises diplomatic records from the beginning of 1973 to the end of 1976, covering a variety of diplomatic traffic including cables, intelligence reports and congressional correspondence. Julian Assange said WikiLeaks had been working for the past year to analyse and assess a vast amount of data held at the US national archives before releasing it in a searchable form ...
WikiLeaks publishes 1.7m US diplomatic records
Julian Assange says 1973-76 reports, including many by Henry Kissinger, show vast range and scope of US activity
guardian.co.uk, Monday 8 April 2013 04.30 EDT

... The collection published on Monday has not been leaked, but Mr Assange said WikiLeaks had been working for the past year to analyse and assess a vast amount of data held at the US national archives before releasing it in a searchable form ...
More WikiLeaks material published
08 April 2013

... “The government can’t be trusted with its own archives,” explains WikiLeaks spokesperson, Kristinn Hrafnsson, justifying the shift from contemporary leaked cables to declassified (but obscure) documents .... the documents .. were obtained from the National Archives and Record Administration (NARA) ...
http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/07/wikileaks-goes-google-develops-searchable-database-for-millions-of-kissinger-cables/
WikiLeaks Goes Google, Develops Searchable Database For Millions Of ‘Kissinger Cables’
Gregory Ferenstein


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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:11 AM

18. Whistleblowing is where you zero in on a wrong

1.7 million documents is not whistleblowing. It's just dumping.

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Response to treestar (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:59 PM

19. Here, it's not even dumping: all these documents were already available from the US government,

and that's how Wikileaks got them

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:04 PM

20. Next up for Wikileaks: The Greater Metropolitan Washington D.C. phonebook!

 

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Response to randome (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:13 PM

21. "Wikileaks names names in new release of DC white pages!"

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #21)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:05 PM

24. I'm sure Kissinger Associates are delighted at your efforts to downplay this. Here's their number.

(202) 872-0300

They probably hire summer interns - you may be a good candidate.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:39 PM

27. I'm sure Kissinger's clients are well-aware of Kissinger's power-based real-politik approach,

and I expect that will be one reason they're pleased to use his consulting services. Personal accusations, of the sort you make, are simply distasteful

If the use of declassified documents, to illuminate history, is a topic that interests you, you may wish to familiarize yourself the website of the long-established National Security Archive, a nonprofit group that obtains documents shedding important light on specific events, such as the overthrow of Allende

NIXON ON CHILE INTERVENTION: WHITE HOUSE TAPE ACKNOWLEDGES INSTRUCTIONS TO BLOCK SALVADOR ALLENDE ...
DECLASSIFIED KISSINGER TRANSCRIPTS REVEAL STRONG SUPPORT FOR PINOCHET FOLLOWING CHILEAN COUP

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 110
February 3 , 2004
Washington D.C., September 10, 2008 - On the eve of the thirty-fifth anniversary of the military coup in Chile, the National Security Archive today published for the first time formerly secret transcripts of Henry Kissinger’s telephone conversations that set in motion a massive U.S. effort to overthrow the newly-elected socialist government of Salvador Allende ... After Nixon spoke directly to Rogers, Kissinger recorded a conversation in which the Secretary of State agreed that “we ought, as you say, to cold-bloodedly decide what to do and then do it,” but warned it should be done “discreetly so that it doesn’t backfire” ... In their first substantive conversation following the military coup in Chile, Kissinger and Nixon discuss the U.S. role in the overthrow of Allende, and the adverse reaction in the new media. When Nixon asks if the U.S. “hand” will show in the coup, Kissinger admits “we helped them” ...


There's a difference between the hard work of a group such as the National Security Archive, which actually provides information and insight, and the random mass dumping Assange practices, which seems primarily motivated by Assange's need for attention

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #27)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:33 PM

34. On his clients and their ethics, we surely agree. As for the Nat'l Security Archive at GWU, I've

been reading their materials for a couple decades, and find that like any single source, it needs to be supplemented.

I did a thesis in the '90s on the influence of American foreign policy on the Chilean political process and economy -- I even spent some time in these same Archives, so I'm aware of many of these facts. Many were revealed long ago, but only now are some previously classified primary U.S. sources coming out, and more importantly reaching a wider audience. So, yes, a lot of what Wikileaks reveals is old and familiar news to some, but we can now see confirmed in undeniable form what the rest of the world, particularly the Chileans, already knew all too well. You don't seem to know enough about the subject to understand how much historical value these documents really have.

Wiki isn't just about Assange, it's about how lies poison nations, but some will try to salvage what's left of the truth. Silencing one man won't reverse either process.

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:05 PM

25. oh my



That un-transparent, Julian-abusing government of the U.S.? That one?

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:16 PM

26. Congratulations! Your efforts to get the dupe thread frozen kicked this one into the top 25!

E for effort

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Response to leveymg (Reply #26)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:53 PM

28. Yeah, I didn't want to see 1.7 million new LBN threads on forty-year-old long-available

declassified US documents, that St Julian downloaded legally and easily from a public US government archive site then "released" just so he could grab headlines and rake in cash as a great transparency campaigner

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #28)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 06:18 PM

30. He may not have broken any law this time, but it was a newsworthy public service anyway. eom

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Response to leveymg (Reply #30)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:31 PM

31. Maybe or maybe not, but IMO in any case not every old cable in his "release" becomes LBN thereby

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:11 PM

23. Meanwhile, journalists across the world are combing through names of overseas tax evaders...

 

Obtained by neither Wikileaks, nor Anonymous.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #23)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:43 PM

32. And it's quite wonderful that the one does not deny the other...

 

And it's quite wonderful that the one does not deny the other, and even more wonderful that we may hopefully enjoy the fruits of all their labors.

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