Bras Make Breasts "Saggier", 15-year French Study Reveals

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Source: Counsel & Heal

Women have long been told that a good bra can help support the chest, relieve back pain and prevent sagging. However, a new 15-year French study reveals the opposite: bras do little to reduce back pain and, over time, they can actually make breasts sag even more.

Researcher Prof. Jean-Denis Rouillon, a sports science expert from the University of Besançon in eastern France claims that "bras are a false necessity," according to The Local.

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According to The Connexion, the findings suggest that breasts would gain more tone and support themselves if no bra was used. Researchers explain that bras limit the growth of supporting breast tissues, leaving the breast to wither and degrade more quickly.

The study found that women who took off their bras for good experienced a 7mm lift in their nipples each year they didn't wear a bra. Researchers also found that bra-less women developed firmer breasts and saw their stretch marks fade.

Read more: http://www.counselheal.com/articles/4852/20130411/bras-make-breasts-saggier-15-year-french-study-reveals.htm

[DJ13]

1. Down with bras, up with skirts?

[In_The_Wind]

32. We did that 44 years ago.

[DJ13]

36. I remember

Oh to be 20 again.

[In_The_Wind]

37. I'm 64 going on 29 forever.

In my heart ... [img][/img]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018360506

[DJ13]

39. Thats a great saying!

[medeak]

2. did the Nieman Marcus bra fitting

found that blood pressure 30 - 40 higher with bra on. Thanks for this!

[Agnosticsherbet]

3. The Chines once bound the feet if infant girls because somebody thought pain and tiny feet were sexy.

I see how it is possible that refusing to allow the body to develop the muscles that support its weight is like putting a couch under the butt of Potato. Perhaps we will see a movement away form a device once designed to bind a woman's breast so they would not titillate men helpless before their true and awesome power.

[cosmicone]

4. I'm all for braless women. n/t

[Blue_Tires]

15. Women of the world can use my hands for support

[Paul E Ester]

44. Selfishly sacrificing for the team again...thanks Blue!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

5. ...someone will post the squirrel pic....

[Shrike47]

6. Old National Geographics would suggest that eventually things are going to slide.

[FiveGoodMen]

8. Ah, yes. Let's hope it doesn't come to that!

[Arkansas Granny]

18. Pretty much what I was thinking, too.

[sendero]

40. That's the same think my wife said..

... (more or less) but I think that some of that shape is genetic and would happen with or without bras.

Please don't rain on my parade

[Yo_Mama]

46. Yes, which is why I don't believe this study

Western sixtyish boobs may not be perky, but they ain't down to the bellybutton either.

As for all the men offering their "support" - ahem. That only works when one is young and doesn't NEED the support, if you get my drift.

[Ash_F]

54. Men aren't immune either.

...

[Archae]

7. That professor is going to find a lack of support...

While he makes a boob of himself.

(snerk)

[marlakay]

9. I rarely wear one

Only if we go out somewhere and not always then. I have always been small, not as much now but hate the tight feeling of one.

I am 56 and not saggy, my husband says I look like a 19 yr old. I exercise daily, not a fanatic.

Of course maybe my husband just wants to have sex!

[BlueJazz]

10. I'm been depressed all day but this post gave my spirit a nice lift.

[Evasporque]

11. all hail the nipple....nt

[RebelOne]

12. That report is a bunch of bull.

I am 74 and have been wearing a bra 24/7 for the past 40 years and I could still go braless, which I wouldn't at my age.

[Judi Lynn]

13. What about this article is actually "Late Breaking News?" What am I missing?

There is nothing in the information tying this to any recent time at all beyond the statement it's a finding after a 15 year study.

Is it "news?"

[Katashi_itto]

14. Down with Bras!!!

[SheilaT]

16. Huh? As a female I don't buy this.

In my younger days, I was very small. Didn't really need a bra, and sometimes I didn't wear one. Then pregnancy and breast-feeding totally changed things. Trust me, had I gone braless all these years I'd sag even more than I currently do.

Has anyone ever looked closely at those National Geographic pictures of African woman who wore no tops at all? The older women did not exactly have firm and perky breasts.

[NickB79]

19. I wonder if those NatGeo women sagged due to large families

I'd imagine it would make a difference if a woman had 2 children vs. 10 over her lifetime. Plus, many of the women that NatGeo photographed came from cultures where it was traditional to breast-feed for extended periods of time, up to a year or two after birth.

[SheilaT]

22. I only had two.

And those National Geographic women probably had only about four or so children in their lifetime. Really. the child-bearing numbers in those cultures was lower than most people think.

Trust me. Even a relatively short period of breast-feeding can make a big change in the breasts. That's not true of all women. But if you go from being very small, as I always was, to a much larger size, as I did, and then stay larger, trust me, you need a bra unless you enjoy serious sagging.

And I did breast feed each child for two years. But the changes happened in the early weeks and months.

[Rozlee]

47. I'm sure malnutrition plays a large part.

Even here in the West, things like yo-yo dieting and weight loss from dieting and illness can wreck havoc on breasts and cause considerable breast sag. Let alone something like cachectic weight loss that would also shrink the underlying muscle that supports the fatty part of breast tissue.

[Jennicut]

24. Seriously.

I was always big and then after I had my two daughters I am a 38DD. I eventually lost the baby weight but I'm still big in the chest. Those are not things that can go around braless! Not sure that would even be comfortable.

[Arctic Dave]

17. The hippies were right again!

Burn the bra!

[happyslug]

20. I notice no comment on Bra Cup sizes.

I have meet many a woman with an "AA", "A" or "B" cup that do not need a bra, on the other hand, women whose Cup is a "C" or larger, mostly inform me that they need a bra.

Given that Breasts are mostly FAT and FAT does not have internal strength like muscle, a difference based on Bra Size would be a serious factor. Thus I would have more respect for this study if they would break down the woman into some sort of size groups (For example the American "AA" "A", "B","C", "D" and "E" groups. I suspect for "AA", "A"s and "B"s bras give support to the breasts, but support that would exist if the women did not wear a bra (and thus the lack of a bra, strengthens the muscles holding up the breasts, relieving back paid). On the other hand, women with "C"s, "D"s and "E"s Breasts, the lack of a bra causes the Brest to sag, for the Breast is to large for the few muscles women have in that area of their body.

Thus this report MAY be true, within certain Cup Sizes, and what other have said about Breasts Sagging MAY be true for women with larger cup sizes.

Bra and Cup size comparison, USA-UK-European:
http://www.herroom.com/european-lingerie-size-conversions,929,30.html

[SheilaT]

23. Bingo.

I didn't feel like giving to much information about my own body, but when I was an A cup, a bra wasn't needed.

[happyslug]

25. I have sisters who vary from "C" through "D" and "EE"

I notice the chart uses "DD" and "DDD" for larger breasts, but my sister who, was and is a "EE" or "EEE" was the one who told me of sizes over "E" where "EE" and "EEE" not the "DD" and "DDD" on the chart. I may be wrong, but all of my sisters ALL use bra for the smallest of them were "C" cups.

On the other hand I have had other women tell me you do not need a Bra if your cup are in the smaller sizes. Thus Cup Size is IMPORTANT, and may be the most important factor as to the issue if a Bra his helpful or not.

[eppur_se_muova]

33. Yes, this is really the weak point in the whole argument.

I can well imagine that over a certain size sagging becomes much more pronounced with age, and below that size, not so much.

If you've got bigguns, protect them when you're young.

[Yo_Mama]

48. Once you have kids, they get larger

Especially if you breastfeed.

Believe me, you don't end up with those cute little thangs you started out with!

[MurrayDelph]

53. Are you talking about

the breasts or the kids?

[Yo_Mama]

56. Funny.

Yes, I guess that can be read in two ways....

I was grocery shopping a few days ago, and as I wandered through looking at the prices I just had a flashback and thought "How in HELL do people feed a couple of active teenagers these days?"

[TheCowsCameHome]

21. Did he get paid for doing that 15 year study?

What a away to earn aliving.

[PlanetBev]

26. Glad this study didn't come out when I was younger

At 62, my breasts would be residing in Tierra del Fuego right now if I hadn't worn a bra all these years.

[lunatica]

41. Just flang em over your shoulder honey

Just like I do when they get in the way.

[valerief]

42. My nana used to do that with her "mollyboolies".

She'd pretend to flip each one over her shoulder. Then she'd kick each foot up behind her, as though she were kicking each mollyboolie back to the front. My father always made us ask her to do it. He was a tiresome drunk.

[kimbutgar]

27. Obviously the researcher likes seeing women braless

As a woman I don't see the validity of this study. Sorry but I will not run without a bra nor will I go out to work braless. There was a time I could go braless but no more.

[MillennialDem]

35. I'm a D cup and completely braless. I run without a bra or cami or undershirt that gives "support".

No issues.

No reason bras would prevent sag (that's caused by weakness of the supporting tissue). At best, they would do neither harm nor help.

[littlemissmartypants]

28. Vive La France.

[RC]

29. Ahhh, a picture to give the article validity.

[In_The_Wind]

30. Indeed!

[tartan2]

31. Bullshit! I'm not believing this!!!

[MillennialDem]

34. Chalk this up under duh. Why would a bra PREVENT sag? Breasts are held up, and the only thing that

will keep them held up is strength of the tissue that holds them up. The reason women in national geographic and whatnot sag is because of poor nutrition and brutal lives.

Bras don't do anything to strengthen that tissue.

I'm a D cup and have zero sag. I also don't wear bras. I don't even own one.

[In_The_Wind]

38. I hear ya ~ MillennialDem.

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[rocktivity]

43. What's French for "TORO TURD!"?

I am quite literally "living proof" that wearing a bra (especially if you need one) can pay off in your old age!


rocktivity

[24601]

45. Believe that would be "taureau du merd"

[Heywood J]

49. Hm?

The study found that women who took off their bras for good experienced a 7mm lift in their nipples each year they didn't wear a bra.

Wouldn't that imply that women who have worn bras for twenty years have fallen 140 mm (5.5&quot and reached the navel?

[Butterbean]

50. I personally NEEDED bras when I was breastfeeding

so that I didn't walk around in public with giant circles of milk on my chest and constantly wet shirts. Bras do cool things like hold nursing pads on your boobs to absorb all that stuff, so you don't have giant breastmilk bulls eyes. Plus yeah, after breast feeding two kids for two years each, I most certainly DO require a bra. Gravity, schmavity. It's called boob barnacles, and I gave birth to two of 'em.

[tabasco]

51. I like 'em saggy

I like 'em firm,
I like 'em pointy,
I like 'em round.
Gosh darn it - I like 'em all!

[daleo]

52. My wife rarely wears a bra

And she has aged rather well.

[dipsydoodle]

55. I'd always assumed

women wore bras for comfort.

[Rhiannon12866]

57. Locking, this is not late breaking news n/t