Authorities circulate photos of two men spotted carrying bags near site of Boston bombings

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Source: NY Post

Investigators probing the deadly Boston Marathon bombings are circulating photos of two men spotted chatting near the packed finish line, The Post has learned.

In the photos being distributed by law-enforcement officials among themselves, one of the men is carrying a blue duffel bag. The other is wearing a black backpack in the first photo, taken at 10:53 a.m., but it is not visible in the second, taken at 12:30 p.m.

“The attached photos are being circulated in an attempt to identify the individuals highlighted therein,” said an e-mail obtained by The Post. “Feel free to pass this around to any of your fellow agents elsewhere.”


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/feds_have_men_in_sights_j43UJwXZncr0wmysU42scJ

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[maddezmom]

1. I take anything from the post with a large dose of salt

Their reporting on this has proved to be wrong in so many ways so far.

[OKNancy]

5. I agree. They have been pretty awful during this

..and what if these fellows are totally innocent?

[maddezmom]

6. CNN btw which has been awful as well has a completely different take on the suspects

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/boston-blasts/index.html

I think we should all wait to post pics until law enforcement releases them to the public.

[Laurian]

7. Yep, the Post lacks credibility.

I'll wait for a different source.....but not CNN.

[maddezmom]

24. the OP really should self delete this crap. Boston globe reporting the images will be released toda

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/authorities-have-clear-video-images-two-suspects/YejgNWAcmChcx2lUXigs5I/story.html

Authorities have clear video images of two separate suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings carrying black bags at each explosion site and are planning to release the images today in an appeal for the public’s help in identifying the men, according to an official briefed on the case.

[bThe official said that the two suspects were seen separately on videotape -- one at each of the two bombing sites, which are located about a block apart.

The official, who spoke this morning on the condition of anonymity, said the best video has come from surveillance cameras on the same side of Boylston Street as the explosions. The official said the widely reported Lord Taylor surveillance camera, and snapshots from individual cell phone camera users, have not provided the clearest images.

It was unclear why authorities did not publicize images of the unidentified suspects yesterday. President Obama is visiting Boston today, and the timing of a law enforcement briefing remained unclear.

[Javaman]

2. the ny post.

perhaps a better link would be apt instead of the fox owned newscorp rag, no?

[Shivering Jemmy]

3. Those two

Were in some of the amateur sleuthing I saw yesterday.

[Yo_Mama]

8. On 4Chan

I saw them too.

[drm604]

4. There's an interesting paragraph towards the bottom of that article.

Nobody has claimed responsibility for the attack, which is believed to be a domestic plot rather than international terrorism.

I wonder what this is based on?

[Ian David]

9. Maybe they found a copy of one of Sean Hannity's books in the wreckage? n/t

[JoePhilly]

12. International terrorist groups tend to take credit for their actions ...

domestic terrorists (think Eric Rudolph) do not.

So far, no one has taken credit for this attack.

[drm604]

48. Is that really true though?

I don't recall anyone stepping up immediately after 9/11. Eventually they did, but not this soon afterwards.

I do tend to believe that this was domestic, but not because no one has taken credit.

[TheCowsCameHome]

10. Since it's from the NY Post, I'd wait for a better source. n/t

[Nihil]

11. How surprising ...

... the NY Post photos were of two non-white people whereas other "circulated photos"
(e.g., in replies 25 & 26 of http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014457563) are
far more "domestic" looking ...

[Bosonic]

13. Hmmm

Why wouldn't the authorities host the images on www.fbi.gov or www.bpdnews.com ??

Nice and official and accessible by lots of eyes.

[Chalfont]

15. Not them.

http://www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers/comments/1cl4qx/the_two_males_that_the_media_have_claimed_the_fbi/

[B2G]

16. According to reddit, these guys have been cleared

The man in blue is a Morrocan runner and both of them supposedly went to the police to clear themselves.

[EvilAL]

19. That's what happens when the news

gets their news from the internet.

[rocktivity]

45. And keep in mind this is New England

Original witch hunt territory.


rocktivity

[B2G]

17. And if the FBI would just release the REAL damn photos

We could avoid all of this nonsense. They're gonna get a couple of innocent guys killed at this rate.

[randome]

26. 'They' are doing their jobs. I think they have more expertise at this than we do.

If anyone is 'mistakenly' killed, it will be on the killer's hands and no one else's.

[fugop]

27. The FBI?

The FBI certainly doesn't owe us the photos, since they're trying to find the people. Why alert them that they're busted?

The idiots here are, as usual, the disgustingly irresponsible media. God forbid they wait until confirming shit. "There's been an arrest! (Talk about that for an hour) Wait, no arrest, but suspect in custody! (Talk about that for an hour) Wait, no. Oops. Nothing yet." Lather, rinse, repeat. Disgusting.

[B2G]

31. Well let's see

They know the FBI has their pictures, has them on video and has provided a description of their attire. One of them has been placed at the scene of the 2nd bombing dropping a backpack.

I'm guessing they already know they're busted. And they're probably long gone by now.

[Javaman]

41. or more than likely,..

they might know who the the person or persons are and don't want to tip anyone off by releasing a photo and alerting the bombers friends.

It's only been 3 days.

Give it time, they will find those involved.

[Please proceed]

18. Mob Mentality on "Democratic": Underground

And using the Post as a source. Pitiful day here.

[MynameisBlarney]

21. Looks like most here are ridiculing the Posts article

not buying into it.

[MynameisBlarney]

20. The NY Post? LMAO

Not even worth using as toilet paper.

[dballance]

23. Oh, Please. Not the NY Post Again. Take a Closer Look at the Pics on Their Site

In the first pic the guy in blue clearly has a shoulder-strap from something like a gym bag - not backpack - over his right shoulder and nothing (like a backpack strap) over his left shoulder. There is something low around his left arm but their huge red ring around his face conveniently obscures whatever it is. In the second photo the guy in blue is STILL carrying a bag with the strap slung over his right shoulder. And gees, he's dressed as if he was going to or coming from the gym.

On Edit: Also note the guy in the white cap has his black backpack in BOTH pictures. So he didn't leave it on the street to blow up any more than the guy in blue left his bag on the street to blow up.

But they're dark and Arabic-looking and have bags - so they must be guilty. I feel really bad for these two guys right now. They're probably going to have to go into hiding for a while.


I love this really great sourcing they used:
“The attached photos are being circulated in an attempt to identify the individuals highlighted therein,” said an e-mail obtained by The Post. “Feel free to pass this around to any of your fellow agents elsewhere.”

E-mail from whom and to whom and obtained how?

In other news "The world is flat" said and e-mail obtained by me.

I think the NY Post is for wiping, not reading.

[Cal Carpenter]

25. This has been debunked. These are NOT the bombers

They do not match the description by the authorities, and they are apparently a couple local running enthusiasts (a track coach and one of his runners).

See post #7 & #8

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022698888#top

Please consider self deleting. The NY Post cannot be trusted and this should NOT be in LBN.

[FreeBC]

36. This. This thread should be deleted.

[Wernothelpless]

28. Not believable to me ...

Viewing the second image at the link where they are standing in the street and I can see BOTH bags ... one is over the man's arm and the other is still on the second guy's back ... expand the image using zoom ... nope, it's not these two ...

[Kingofalldems]

29. Welcome back!

[jberryhill]

30. "said an e-mail obtained by The Post"

Yeah, really? I get emails that say all kinds of things.

[Kingofalldems]

32. BTW, how can anything from the NY Post be considered LBN?

[Cal Carpenter]

33. Idon't know, especially this which has been debunked

as bullshit.

I've alerted on it, an SOP alert, for what it is worth. Not locked yet.

[brentspeak]

35. I just tried doing the same thing

Incredibly, three DUers on a jury were stupid enough to allow this thread to remain unlocked.

[Cal Carpenter]

37. Not that incredible, unfortunately

Well, mine was an SOP alert so hopefully the hosts will see it soon.

I can't fathom that they would choose to leave a debunked pile of crap from the NYPost in LBN... (?!)

[maddezmom]

38. I alerted it for an SOP as well

But can't unilateral lock on my own. So will have to wait for other hosts to weigh in.

[Cal Carpenter]

40. Thanks for that, maddezmom

I hope you get a fellow host weighing in soon.

The LBN guidelines are great and keep it a meaningful forum, IMO, so it pains me to see this here.

[maddezmom]

42. Pains me as well

[Myrina]

34. Oh and how coincidental, they appear to be of Middle-Eastern descent.

[mainer]

39. Boston Globe: TWO separate suspects seen clearly in images

at separate places, each with black backpacks.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/authorities-have-clear-video-images-two-suspects/YejgNWAcmChcx2lUXigs5I/story.html

[B2G]

43. And wearing black jackets with hoodies

Neither are dressed this way.

[mainer]

44. Yeah, these are not the guys

And the NY Post needs to be sued.

All news sources keep focusing on the running man in tattered clothes -- but little being said about him.

[winter is coming]

46. Pretty sure I saw on DU yesterday that he's been cleared, too.

I think you're referring to the Saudi national that someone on Hannity's show has claimed is being deported for "national security reasons" despite having been cleared.

[mainer]

49. No, the running man is clearly a white man

A big beefy guy in tattered black clothes who leaps over a fallen woman and tears away even as everyone else is crouched and cowering.

[rocktivity]

47. "Authorities know the names of the two men,

but do not have enough evidence to make an arrest for Monday’s attack..."

The New York Post: All the news that's shit to print!


rocktivity

[WilliamPitt]

50. STOP POSTING SHIT FROM THE NEW YORK POST

Calling it fishwrap is an insult to fish.

[aandegoons]

51. Wow some of you folks are bound and determined to get someone killed.

sad.

[Puzzledtraveller]

52. Where's the Soup Nazi?

[skip fox]

53. DU is fantastic!

Really.

One sees the rush to print of the New YorkPost and then a clear and steady stream of posts which show that the Post is dead wrong while giving clear and intelligent reasons.

Fantastic.

Thanks, DU!

[justiceischeap]

54. Why hasn't this been locked? Has it been alerted on? This story is bunk

the source is bunk and it's not LBN since it was debunked yesterday.

[maddezmom]

55. Locking

Feel free to repost if there is a legitimate source for this as the NY post is not one.