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Sat May 4, 2013, 10:41 AM

NRA official: ’Culture war’ more than gun rights

Source: Chattanooga Times Free Press

HOUSTON — The National Rifle Association kicked off its annual convention Friday with a warning to its members they are engaged in a “culture war” that stretches beyond gun rights, further ramping up emotions surrounding the gun control debate.

NRA First Vice President James Porter, a Birmingham, Ala., attorney who will assume the organization’s presidency Monday, issued a full-throated challenge to President Barack Obama in the wake of a major victory regarding gun control and called on members to dig in for a long fight that will stretch into the 2014 elections.

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“This is not a battle about gun rights,” Porter said, calling it “a culture war.”

“(You) here in this room are the fighters for freedom. We are the protectors,” said Porter, whose father was NRA president from 1959-1960.

Read more: http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/may/04/nra-official-culture-war-more-gun-rights/



the new nra president is an angry old blowhard

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Reply NRA official: ’Culture war’ more than gun rights (Original post)
d_r May 2013 OP
CurtEastPoint May 2013 #1
GeorgeGist May 2013 #7
graegoyle May 2013 #17
TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #13
name not needed May 2013 #24
onehandle May 2013 #2
Hoyt May 2013 #4
baldguy May 2013 #11
ThoughtCriminal May 2013 #21
Ash_F May 2013 #32
Robb May 2013 #3
CBHagman May 2013 #5
DallasNE May 2013 #16
CBHagman May 2013 #27
atreides1 May 2013 #6
Hoyt May 2013 #26
Iliyah May 2013 #8
aquart May 2013 #28
Botany May 2013 #9
savalez May 2013 #18
Botany May 2013 #29
Progressive dog May 2013 #10
AlbertCat May 2013 #12
DallasNE May 2013 #14
pangaia May 2013 #22
blackspade May 2013 #15
Sunlei May 2013 #19
Paladin May 2013 #20
azureblue May 2013 #23
reACTIONary May 2013 #25
hatrack May 2013 #30
otherone May 2013 #31
onehandle May 2013 #33
LanternWaste May 2013 #34
Zoeisright May 2013 #35

Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 10:42 AM

1. Here he is...

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #1)

Sat May 4, 2013, 11:55 AM

7. Heart attack ...

waiting to happen.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #7)

Sat May 4, 2013, 12:58 PM

17. I don't want to wait long.

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #1)

Sat May 4, 2013, 12:39 PM

13. Does he have a porter to carry his guns?

No way could that guy carry anything any distance.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #13)

Sat May 4, 2013, 07:43 PM

24. He had it mounted on his rascal scooter.

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 10:43 AM

2. Translation: WHITE POWER! nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Sat May 4, 2013, 10:54 AM

4. Exactly. Racism and guns -- the relationship continues. These people are despicable.


Unfortunately, it's not just the card-carrying members who are like this moronic ass from Alabama.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Sat May 4, 2013, 12:29 PM

11. It's all part of the same package.

 

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Sat May 4, 2013, 01:14 PM

21. Extreme Dog Whistle Language



The "2nd Amendment Solution"tm) to losing elections.


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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Mon May 6, 2013, 10:49 AM

32. +1 /nt

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 10:50 AM

3. What to think. I was told just this by DU's Gun Squad recently.

They must also be protectors of freedom.

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 11:20 AM

5. The phrase " in the wake of a major victory regarding gun control."

Context, please: The Manchin-Toomey bill for background checks failed a cloture vote, which means that there weren't 60 votes to proceed to a general vote. A majority of the Senate did support cloture.

Most news stories don't report those details, citing it simply as proof of a victory for the NRA (their word, not mine) and the death (again, their word) of gun control.

I agree it's a setback, but any declaration that any legislativeissue is forever settled is premature. There's a great deal of this in the press and in online fora, but it's still a mistake, a slanting of things, etc.

The unadorned Senate site version of things, including a breakdown of votes, is available at the link.

[url]http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00097[/url]


U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Amendment (Manchin Amdt. No. 715 )
Vote Number: 97 Vote Date: April 17, 2013, 04:04 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 715 to S. 649 (Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of2013)
Statement of Purpose: To protect Second Amendment rights, ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and provide a responsible and consistent background check process.

Vote Counts: YEAs 54
NAYs 46


Note particularly the figure "required for majority" versus the number of yea votes. This is another case where the filibuster, or rather the threat of it, was used to thwart the will of the majority.

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Response to CBHagman (Reply #5)

Sat May 4, 2013, 12:57 PM

16. Many In The News Media (MSM)

Used this vote to declare that Obama is already a lame duck President and that followed by one day Jonathan Karl's assertion that Obama doesn't have the "juice" to be President, apparently claiming that Obama is in over his head. (Did Karl claim that Bush didn't have any juice after his bungled attempt to privatize Social Security early in his 2nd term -- perhaps a double standard here? Was the Karl charge political, racist or both?)

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #16)

Sat May 4, 2013, 08:06 PM

27. And here's where I bring up "Just another failed president?" headline from...

...the spring of 1993, when Bill Clinton had been in office just a few months.

We've heard this song before.

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 11:29 AM

6. NRA/KKK

They finally did it...they brought the two groups together under one leader!

"Culture war" translates to white supremacy...

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #6)

Sat May 4, 2013, 07:54 PM

26. Sure appears that way.

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 11:57 AM

8. And don't forget their

token ni**ers to boot. Token brown, i.e., Carnival Cruz (I love that got it from another cite) and Rubio, et al.,

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #8)

Sat May 4, 2013, 08:27 PM

28. Ah, Carnival Cruz. Promises much, delivers shit.

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 12:21 PM

9. Keep it up NRA guys ....

.... the dustbin of history awaits you. Please trot out Palin (who couldn't
operate her own bolt action rifle) Nugent, and Beck to speak for gun rights
it will be a big help to our side.

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Response to Botany (Reply #9)

Sat May 4, 2013, 01:04 PM

18. Isn't Nugent dead or in jail? n/t

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Response to savalez (Reply #18)

Sun May 5, 2013, 08:08 AM

29. 4/17/13 was his expiration date

"If Barack Obama becomes the president in November again, I will either be
dead or in jail by this time next year." — April 2012, NRA Convention in St. Louis.

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 12:28 PM

10. This Porter guy calls the Civil War

"the war of northern aggression". That tells you where he is coming from.
We actually have people on here who "claim" to be democrats except for their rabid support of all things gun."

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 12:39 PM

12. What a giant step backward

 

Didn't think it was possible for the NRA.... but there ya go...


"whose father was NRA president from 1959-1960."


...even without the nepotism!

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 12:46 PM

14. "Culture War" Has Meant Many Different Things Over The Years

So Porter needs to tells us exactly what he means by culture war because none of the previous definitions have included armed rebellion to overthrow the democratically elected government, as a plurality of Republicans have indicated they favor in a recent poll. Is he talking about a Timothy McVeigh solution? It sounds like it goes beyond "angry old blowhard".

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #14)

Sat May 4, 2013, 04:13 PM

22. THIS is the REAL reason these wackos want all the guns they can get.

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 12:56 PM

15. They are the 'protectors' all right.

Protectors of the merchants of death.

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 01:08 PM

19. true words from the NRA gang that rose up, hand in hand with the KKK. same old shit.

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 01:08 PM

20. But....But....the NRA is a SINGLE-ISSUE ORGANIZATION.


We've been told that by our resident DU Gun Enthusiasts, over and over and over again.

Of course, our crop of Gun Enthusiasts also keep claiming that support for untrammeled gun availability is a "liberal" stance.......

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 04:44 PM

23. correct

’Culture war’ more than gun rights

Correct. It about the NRA's culture of self delusion, ideological blindness, conspiracy theorists, and basic cultism, vs reality and the rest of the world

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 07:51 PM

25. Culture War? Or "The War on Culture"? (NT)

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #25)

Sun May 5, 2013, 01:32 PM

30. More like a War On Spelling . . .

To say nothing of the War On Rationality, the War On Reading, the War On Thinking For Yourself.

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #25)

Sun May 5, 2013, 09:56 PM

31. for the love of gun

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #25)

Mon May 6, 2013, 10:56 AM

33. Both. Cute screen name, btw. nt

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2013, 10:59 AM

34. Someone recently posted the question, "what makes a gun-nut?"

Someone recently posted the question, "what makes a gun-nut?

Well... here is a part of the nuttiness.

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Response to d_r (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2013, 11:04 AM

35. Yeah, it's a culture war all right.

Between the sane and the insane. And we all know which side that prick Porter represents.

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